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This was a multi-purpose press conference, defence minister was there to brief about NSC outcome.
Dunia main 5 bajy office band hoty hain market 9 sy 11 bajy ky dirmain band hoti hain, wo b is lie majority customers ko sub sawray job per Jana hota hy.

Pakistan main sub 9 bajy tak koi utha nhi.
 
Hypothesis is, the sleep early rise early. When you have to wake up early than you are bound to sleep early as well hence lesser available time for private maneuvers in the bed :p. Early rise means to utilize more sunlight in the day rather than using artificial lights (tube/led lights, bulbs, air conditioners , heaters etc) hence saving the need of producing more power.

Yes, utilizing full daylight is sensible. But practically very difficult for shop owners to somehow attract business when their customers are at work. This will only lead to more online shopping and further aggravate the issues for shop owners. Of course, online shopping is also contribution to economy, but it benefits more corporatised players.
 
A question was raised there that when people would go home early, more children will be born. In response, Khawaja Asif said that in countries where markets close early, children are born less, means, the birth rate is low there. By what logic are you asking this question?

But PTI media cell twisted it.
I started reading this board due to my interest in sovereign debt crisis. But I should say sometimes I get more fun than I ought to.
 
So today we hear that a serving ISI Officer is suing Adil Raja in UK court.

Can someone please help me understand how this is even possible? Who is giving these guys legal advice? How did high command give this authorization? Is the incompetence so rampant within our most important institutions. Where is the AG and JAG on this? Are they really giving this advice? Even as a non-lawyer I can tell you how bad this advice and move is.

Suing someone opens yourself up for scrutiny. This army officer's plea will be hard pressed to be entertained. And let's say it does get entertained, then basically this officer can be called to the court. He is essentially as a member of a foreign sovereign operating under a foreign sovereign mandate putting himself and indirectly the foreign sovereign under international in this case UK jurisdiction (thereby creating a precedence if he brings some official authorization of this lawsuit. It helps UK courts establish a precedence where they can argue in future cases that the veil of Soverign immunity has been peirced.

Furthermore if I was Adil Raja I would have a field day with this lawsuit.
I would request deposition of this officer, it would essentially kill the officer intelligence career. It would force the officer to be deposed, which would force them to respond to all and every question. In this exercise he would be legally obliged to answer all questions. This could be highly embarrasing and even one lie would undermine the entire case, not to mention make it impossible for the officer to respond. That could be highly embarrassing for the officer, his institution and the country.

It is mind numbing to think someone gave this officer the guidance to litigate. Pakistani institutional competence has hit a new low.
 
Making love too ones wife and family planning is off no business to a minister especially a defence minister. Tu apna kam kar tu agay khasi eh.
 
Was he required to answer with such curiosity and after thought ?

p.s. didn't maryum media cell used to twist stuff as well when IK spoke something wrong mistakenly like France/Japan location


Hypothesis is, the sleep early rise early. When you have to wake up early than you are bound to sleep early as well hence lesser available time for private maneuvers in the bed :p. Early rise means to utilize more sunlight in the day rather than using artificial lights (tube/led lights, bulbs, air conditioners , heaters etc) hence saving the need of producing more power.

Imran was factually wrong whereas Khawaja Asif was factually right.
 
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Dunia main 5 bajy office band hoty hain market 9 sy 11 bajy ky dirmain band hoti hain, wo b is lie majority customers ko sub sawray job per Jana hota hy.

Pakistan main sub 9 bajy tak koi utha nhi.

In Pakistan all big markets like Brandreth road, Circular road, Shah Alam, Akbri, Sabzi Mandi, Urdu Bazar all closed till Maghrib, only retail markets work till late night, we need to make them regular to save our resources.

Jul-Dec trade deficit declines 32.65pc to $17.13bn YoY

 
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So today we hear that a serving ISI Officer is suing Adil Raja in UK court.

Can someone please help me understand how this is even possible? Who is giving these guys legal advice? How did high command give this authorization? Is the incompetence so rampant within our most important institutions. Where is the AG and JAG on this? Are they really giving this advice? Even as a non-lawyer I can tell you how bad this advice and move is.

Suing someone opens yourself up for scrutiny. This army officer's plea will be hard pressed to be entertained. And let's say it does get entertained, then basically this officer can be called to the court. He is essentially as a member of a foreign sovereign operating under a foreign sovereign mandate putting himself and indirectly the foreign sovereign under international in this case UK jurisdiction (thereby creating a precedence if he brings some official authorization of this lawsuit. It helps UK courts establish a precedence where they can argue in future cases that the veil of Soverign immunity has been peirced.

Furthermore if I was Adil Raja I would have a field day with this lawsuit.
I would request deposition of this officer, it would essentially kill the officer intelligence career. It would force the officer to be deposed, which would force them to respond to all and every question. In this exercise he would be legally obliged to answer all questions. This could be highly embarrasing and even one lie would undermine the entire case, not to mention make it impossible for the officer to respond. That could be highly embarrassing for the officer, his institution and the country.

It is mind numbing to think someone gave this officer the guidance to litigate. Pakistani institutional competence has hit a new low.
Can someone please help me understand how this is even possible?
First question is always the 'Standing': Did the defamation occur in UK? Is the Defamer an ordinary resident of U.K.? Then the victim has recourse to U.K. Law and courts. But, if the victim is an Intelligence Officer, by definition, he is not 'famous', is he? He has to probably be undercover to be an intelligence officer. So, suing in a court means he will be outed.

Rest of your arguments in terms of precedent, Sovereign immunity etc., are not valid because he is suing as a victim. Any victim anywhere can choose to pray that a court having jurisdiction render justice. The questions of Precedent and Sovereign immunity are applicable if he were the party being accused. If the U.K. person were to sue the ISI person, then the ISI person can exercise immunity etc., if the cause were not internationally recognized crimes that Pakistan was a party to extradition.
 
First question is always the 'Standing': Did the defamation occur in UK? Is the Defamer an ordinary resident of U.K.? Then the victim has recourse to U.K. Law and courts. But, if the victim is an Intelligence Officer, by definition, he is not 'famous', is he? He has to probably be undercover to be an intelligence officer. So, suing in a court means he will be outed.

Rest of your arguments in terms of precedent, Sovereign immunity etc., are not valid because he is suing as a victim. Any victim anywhere can choose to pray that a court having jurisdiction render justice. The questions of Precedent and Sovereign immunity are applicable if he were the party being accused. If the U.K. person were to sue the ISI person, then the ISI person can exercise immunity etc., if the cause were not internationally recognized crimes that Pakistan was a party to extradition.

The Defamer is in UK
 
In Pakistan all big markets like Brandreth road, Circular road, Shah Alam, Akbri, Sabzi Mandi, Urdu Bazar all closed till Maghrib, only retail markets work till late night, we need to make them regular to save our resources.


Jul-Dec trade deficit declines 32.65pc to $17.13bn YoY

doesnt matter because due to this, jobs been lost, factory closing, exports remittance etc all coming down let fiscal year end, gdp negative, inflation 29%
 
Actually there is no cause-effect relationship between markets closing early and less children being born.

As my Stats Prof used to say "Correlation is not causation"

Regards
 

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