Mumbai: 50% work on second tunnel of Coastal Road completed, says BMC

[GreatHanWarrior]

thank you china

No thanks. India will continue to buy Chinese TBM next time.

 

[Hellfire2006]

@Chat SAMOSA @satyamev @Vowek @Black Tornado @Hellfire2006 @Jackdaws

Should Indians not thank China?

Why thank china for something which we paid money for ? In that case Europe should thank india for supplying covishield vaccines although they gave india money for it

No thanks. India will continue to buy Chinese TBM next time.

India just built it's first tbm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/chennai-metro-to-deploy-made-in-india-tunnel-boring-machines-for-phase-ii-project/article65703312.ece/amp/

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

Why thank china for something which we paid money for ? In that case Europe should thank india for supplying covishield vaccines although they gave india money for it


India just built it's first tbm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/chennai-metro-to-deploy-made-in-india-tunnel-boring-machines-for-phase-ii-project/article65703312.ece/amp/

Ah. But Mumbai still love China TBM.

 

[Black Tornado]

This little Indian TBM is copied from China.

But the diameter of this Indian TBM is even less than 3 m. No wonder Mumbai must use Chinese TBM!

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You said Indians will need 10000 years to build a TBM, we built it. Cope.

 

[Hellfire2006]

Ah. But Mumbai still love China TBM.

Chinesw company won in the bidding process , it shows that india's free market economy allows fair competition

 

[Black Tornado]

For what? Supplying a TBM? We make them domestically, it’s just that chinese company was the lowest bidder and hence got the order for the TBM.

@Windjammer where’s made in Pakistan TBM by the way?

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

Chinesw company won in the bidding process , it shows that india's free market economy allows fair competition

Oh, No. Because India can only buy Chinese TBM.

1, India cannot afford German TBM.

2, India cannot make TBM.

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

India paid money for that..

By your foolish logic China (excluding Taiwan) should thank India for providing billions of dollars.

So Mumbai and India must buy Chinese TBM next time.

 

[Bilal9]

One has to admit that Chinese TBMs are more or less similar to German and Japanese TBMs while costing a lot less.

Modi would not approve buying of Chinese TBMs if he could avoid it. But State and Center project planners in India did approve.

German and Japanese TBMs are not cost-effective for Indian (or any) civil engg. projects anymore. Cost is beyond practicality.

Let's not bring in narrow geopolitics into this. Project planners in India saw the light and used Chinese TBMs.

And Indian TBMs are still unproven, which may get better eventually. Chinese TBMs are the best option right now.

Karnaphuli Tunnel under the river of the same name, was built in 3 years (ETA Dec. 2022) using a Chinese TBM.

Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman Tunnel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Here is an early story on the tunnel,

Breaking new ground on Bangladesh’s first underwater tunnel

www.smec.com

 

[Windjammer]

@Windjammer where’s made in Pakistan TBM by the way?

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Being a Sperm bank manager, you should only confine your self with your profession.

 

[Black Tornado]

Being a Sperm bank manager, you should only confine your self with your profession.

Typical fartjammer response when he can’t answer a question

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

One has to admit that Chinese TBMs are more or less similar to German and Japanese TBMs while costing a lot less.

Modi would not approve buying of Chinese TBMs if he could avoid it. But State and Center project planners in India did approve.

German and Japanese TBMs are not cost-effective for Indian (or any) civil engg. projects anymore. Cost is beyond practicality.

Let's not bring in narrow geopolitics into this. Project planners in India saw the light and used Chinese TBMs.

And Indian TBMs are still unproven, which may get better eventually. Chinese TBMs are the best option right now.

Karnaphuli Tunnel under the river of the same name, was built in 3 years (ETA Dec. 2022) using a Chinese TBM.

Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman Tunnel - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Here is an early story on the tunnel,

Breaking new ground on Bangladesh’s first underwater tunnel

www.smec.com

China's tunnel boring machines are exported to the world. Not just India and Bangladesh.

 

[Bilal9]

"In most Indian cities, the TBMs procured are from China or Europe. Of the 19 tunnel boring machines being used to dig underground tunnels in Mumbai for major infrastructure projects, eight have been manufactured by Chinese-owned companies, while 11 are by Western companies, but manufactured in China."

"The global TBM market is at present dominated by China. As per vendors, nearly 90 per cent of the TBMs deployed across India have a Chinese connection. China has a dominating presence in the heavy equipment machinery segment, and officials claim it is not possible to replace the sources of these types of equipment overnight.

With Indian firms like BHEL and BEMP still in early stages of producing TBMs, the need to procure the machines from outside India will continue for quite some time."

Explained: Why a tunnel boring machine has been stuck in Mumbai slush for a year

With major cities in India opting for urban transportation systems underground, Tunnel Boring Machines, that help dig tunnels underground, are being deployed extensively in the country.

indianexpress.com

So much for Hindutva Puffery and Chest-beating.

@GreatHanWarrior are these people blind or what ?

Typical fartjammer response when he can’t answer a question

Why do you not check your sources before engaging in chest beating? So you don't affect your credibility?

Just because Indian companies put out brochure language that they CAN make tunnel borers, does not make it true.

This is aspirational talk. There are a lot of technicalities that go into making tunnel borers, and all of these technologies are sourced from outside India. As always.

India is not in the same stage of engineering development as China is.

Jumping up and down all day and yelling will not change this.

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

"In most Indian cities, the TBMs procured are from China or Europe. Of the 19 tunnel boring machines being used to dig underground tunnels in Mumbai for major infrastructure projects, eight have been manufactured by Chinese-owned companies, while 11 are by Western companies, but manufactured in China."

"The global TBM market is at present dominated by China. As per vendors, nearly 90 per cent of the TBMs deployed across India have a Chinese connection. China has a dominating presence in the heavy equipment machinery segment, and officials claim it is not possible to replace the sources of these types of equipment overnight.

With Indian firms like BHEL and BEMP still in early stages of producing TBMs, the need to procure the machines from outside India will continue for quite some time."

Explained: Why a tunnel boring machine has been stuck in Mumbai slush for a year

With major cities in India opting for urban transportation systems underground, Tunnel Boring Machines, that help dig tunnels underground, are being deployed extensively in the country.

indianexpress.com

So much for Hindutva Puffery and Chest-beating.

@GreatHanWarrior are these people blind or what ?

Don't expect too much. Last time, because Chinese engineers didn't get visas. They don't even know how to use TBM.

BMC seeks embassy’s help to bring Chinese engineers to Mumbai | Mumbai News - Times of India

BMC has sent in a second request to the embassy of India in Beijing, China, and the Central government to allow six Chinese engineers to visit India

m.timesofindia.com

 

[Bilal9]

Don't expect too much. Last time, because Chinese engineers didn't get visas. They don't even know how to use TBM.

BMC seeks embassy’s help to bring Chinese engineers to Mumbai | Mumbai News - Times of India

BMC has sent in a second request to the embassy of India in Beijing, China, and the Central government to allow six Chinese engineers to visit India

m.timesofindia.com

Let them shoot themselves in the foot.

This Modi govt. will keep dragging India to the bottom by illogical decisions.

What's wrong with giving a few civilian people visa's ? I mean - Indians already bought the damn equipment....

Boggles the mind....