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Ok yeah that's basically what the P282 will be. I will be shocked if it's anything else.
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Ok yeah that's basically what the P282 will be. I will be shocked if it's anything else.
Why I think so is because:Ok yeah that's basically what the P282 will be. I will be shocked if it's anything else.
Why I think so is because:
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The CM-401 (read P282) missile is a new type of high supersonic ballistic anti-ship missile, using near space trajectory, and capable of all-course high supersonic maneuverable flight, terminal diving and high velocity top attacking, various platform launching firing. It is mainly used to rapidly and exactly attack medium-large sized vessels and ships, formations and port targets. It has the characteristics of multi-ballistic coordinated capability, powerful damage capability, strong penetration ability and ....
Using google translate on the Chinese:
"Highest Mach 6
Average Mach 4"
@Akh1112
Assuming P282 = basically CM401:I wish good luck to the captains of these ships trying to hit anything that isn’t static
If this is the case then my fear right now is that we may not have a supersonic-cruising ASCM program. I hope I'm wrong and that we have a supersonic-cruising missile in the works too.Assuming P282 = basically CM401:
I think they'll have acceptable capability to hit moving targets because this missile is definitely not terminally hypersonic. It's TOP Mach is 6, with an average of 4. I'd guess it is traveling Mach 2ish terminally. I mean there's no way that tiny radar in it's nose is powerful enough to work through plasma. So think of this is kind of a Brahmos. So yes it won't be as nimble as a subsonic AShM but it can turn enough to hit targets like big ships traveling at 20 kts or something. More and more I am thinking that the "hypersonic" is just a ruse.
That would be anti-climactic.Assuming P282 = basically CM401:
I think they'll have acceptable capability to hit moving targets because this missile is definitely not terminally hypersonic. It's TOP Mach is 6, with an average of 4. I'd guess it is traveling Mach 2ish terminally. I mean there's no way that tiny radar in it's nose is powerful enough to work through plasma. So think of this is kind of a Brahmos. So yes it won't be as nimble as a subsonic AShM but it can turn enough to hit targets like big ships traveling at 20 kts or something. More and more I am thinking that the "hypersonic" is just a ruse.
Absolutely notKeep it simple more Type 054
I think the main risk with concealed container-based ASCM/LACM is that it'd torpedo the credibility of our merchant ships. No one will trust our freighters. However, if we can figure out the 'self-contained' aspect of these systems, we could make modular OPVs, FACs, USVs, and mobile coastal batteries.Some thoughts and ideas:
As it is a fact that the Pakistan navy lacks number and in some cases quality compare to its adversary, so it's a natural assumption that it will be looking to wage war in asymmetrical manners.
->The planned purchase of 8 Chinese submarine
->Countless induction of Fast attack crafts
->Testing of surfaced launched anti-ship missiles
->Induction of early warning maritime patrol systems
these developments suggest which kind of warfare PN is preparing for, Ship vs Ship scenarios are out of bound here, which thankfully our adversary is still stuck in.
So far PN did great in what we called credible deterrence, what i can suggest is to look for current containerized missile systems like this:
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Such a system will allow any surface vessel to be transformed into a surprise attack platform if the need arises.
I stressed “if the need arise”I think the main risk with concealed container-based ASCM/LACM is that it'd torpedo the credibility of our merchant ships. No one will trust our freighters. However, if we can figure out the 'self-contained' aspect of these systems, we could make modular OPVs, FACs, USVs, and mobile coastal batteries.
For example, we can build low-cost OPVs and FACs with primarily guns and not much else, but leave the space for a ASCM/LACM container. Once things heat up, a PN Fleet Tanker could reach these OPVs/FACs, and then load the ASCM/LACM containers relatively quickly. Likewise, we can mount these containers to 6x6 or 8x8 trucks.
this is a war crime btwSome thoughts and ideas:
As it is a fact that the Pakistan navy lacks number and in some cases quality compare to its adversary, so it's a natural assumption that it will be looking to wage war in asymmetrical manners.
->The planned purchase of 8 Chinese submarine
->Countless induction of Fast attack crafts
->Testing of surfaced launched anti-ship missiles
->Induction of early warning maritime patrol systems
these developments suggest which kind of warfare PN is preparing for, Ship vs Ship scenarios are out of bound here, which thankfully our adversary is still stuck in.
So far PN did great in what we called credible deterrence, what i can suggest is to look for current containerized missile systems like this:
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Such a system will allow any surface vessel to be transformed into a surprise attack platform if the need arises.
Moreover, the role of cyber offense should be a top priority, some cybercriminals were able to jeopardize the operation of a south African port for 8 days.
South African port operations get back to normal eight days after cyber attack - Splash247
Transnet, South Africa’s main port operator, has got operations back up after being struck by a cyber attack last week. “Transnet Port Terminals, in collaboration with the shipping lines is facilitating the evacuation of urgent containers for the automotive, FMCG and agricultural sectors,”...splash247.com
Achieving the same feet with kinetic means is an unnecessarily difficult task.
Finally occupying and controlling information channels of submarine cables should also be prioritized as well as the whole digital commerce of PN adversary is dependent on that,
https://www.lawfareblog.com/evaluating-russian-threat-undersea-cables
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They are getting pretty mainstream nowthis is a war crime btw