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This is quite momentous: China is now the country in the world attracting the most scientists, meanwhile the US is now experiencing a net outflow of scientists.

China now has a net inflow of scientists. In contrast, the US, which greatly benefited from talent inflow in the past, saw an outflow in 2021. Data from
@OECD


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This is quite momentous: China is now the country in the world attracting the most scientists, meanwhile the US is now experiencing a net outflow of scientists.

China now has a net inflow of scientists. In contrast, the US, which greatly benefited from talent inflow in the past, saw an outflow in 2021. Data from
@OECD


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US made it happen to itself.


 
APRIL 11, 2023 2:17PM

Abandoning the US, More Scientists Go to China​

By David J. Bier


The Organisation for Economic Co‐operation and Development (OECD)—an intergovernmental organization with 38 member countries—has published new data showing that the United States is losing the race for scientific talent to China and other countries. China’s strategy to recruit scientific researchers to work at China‐affiliated universities is working.

In 2021, the United States lost published research scientists to other countries, while China gained more than 2,408 scientific authors. This was a remarkable turnaround from as recently as 2017 when the United States picked up 4,292 scientists and China picked up just 116. As Figure 1 shows, the rest of the OECD and China have both surpassed the United States for net inflow of scientific authors.

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The OECD data are not measuring the movement of non‐Chinese into China or non‐Americans into the United States. The OECD tracks inflows and outflows of published scientific researchers based on changes in institutional affiliation. If an author who was previously affiliated with a different country publishes another article in a new country, the new country will be credited as receiving a new research scientist. The OECD credits more Chinese scientists returning to China for the sudden reversal in Chinese and American inflows.

This is a disturbing trend that started before the pandemic. In fact, it appears to coincide with the Trump administration’s “China Initiative”—more accurately titled the anti‐Chinese initiative. Launched in November 2018, the Department of Justice’s campaign was supposed to combat the overblown threat of intellectual property theft and espionage. In reality, it involved repeatedly intimidating institutions that employed scientists of Chinese heritage and attempting malicious failed prosecutions of scientists who worked with institutions in China. U.S. Attorney Andrew E. Lelling has even admitted that the initiative that he helped lead “created a climate of fear among researchers” and now says, “You don’t want people to be scared of collaboration.”

If Chinese scientists are afraid to work in the United States, that means that the United States will not benefit from their discoveries as much or as quickly as China will. Although the Justice Department claims to have shut down its “China Initiative,” my colleagues doubt that Chinese scientists will be free from unjust scrutiny going forward. The U.S. National Institutes of Health is still bragging about having caused the firings of more than 100 scientists and shutting down research by over 150 scientists—over 80 percent of whom identify as Asian.

The administration continues to maintain contrary to evidence that Chinese industrial espionage—by scientists working in the United States—is a significant threat to the country. Universities and U.S. companies think the far greater threat is losing out on talented Chinese researchers. If the United States wants to deal a blow to the Chinese Communist Party, it should start by trying to fix the damage that it has done in the last few years and liberalize immigration from China.

 
The Great American Brain Drain: US Left in the Dust as Top Scientists Flock to China

This trend began before the COVID-19 pandemic and appears to have been influenced by the Trump administration's controversial "China Initiative."


Authored by: TN Science Desk
Updated May 1, 2023 | 03:39 PM IST

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The Great American Brain Drain: US Left in the Dust as Top Scientists Flock to China

In a stunning turn of events, new data from the Organisation for Economic Co‐operation and Development (OECD) reveals that the United States is rapidly losing ground to China in the race to attract the world's brightest scientific minds. China's successful strategy to entice researchers to work at its affiliated universities is paying off, according to the CATO Institute.

America's Loss of Talent: A Troubling Trend

Back in 2017, the United States was able to attract 4,292 scientists, while China gained a mere 116. Fast forward to 2021, and the tables have turned: the US lost published research scientists, whereas China welcomed a whopping 2,408 scientific authors. The OECD suggests that more Chinese scientists returning to their home country are responsible for this dramatic shift.

The Controversial "China Initiative" and its Impact on Researchers

It's essential to note that this trend began before the COVID-19 pandemic and appears to have been influenced by the Trump administration's controversial "China Initiative." Launched in November 2018, this Department of Justice campaign was intended to address intellectual property theft and espionage. However, it resulted in the intimidation of institutions employing scientists of Chinese heritage and numerous failed prosecutions of scientists collaborating with Chinese institutions.

U.S. Attorney Andrew E. Lelling has admitted that the initiative he helped spearhead "created a climate of fear among researchers." This fear among Chinese scientists could lead to the United States losing out on their valuable discoveries and contributions.

Despite the Justice Department's claims of discontinuing the "China Initiative," there is skepticism about whether Chinese scientists will be free from unwarranted scrutiny in the future. The U.S. National Institutes of Health continues to boast about causing the dismissal of over 100 scientists and shutting down research by over 150 scientists, with over 80 percent identifying as 'Asian.' As a result, universities and U.S. companies are increasingly concerned about missing out on the talents of Chinese researchers.

 
This is quite momentous: China is now the country in the world attracting the most scientists, meanwhile the US is now experiencing a net outflow of scientists.

China now has a net inflow of scientists. In contrast, the US, which greatly benefited from talent inflow in the past, saw an outflow in 2021. Data from
@OECD


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Not surprised, after the imperial wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Middle East is 1000% pro China.

Even impartial historians say both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were wrong.

The Great American Brain Drain: US Left in the Dust as Top Scientists Flock to China

This trend began before the COVID-19 pandemic and appears to have been influenced by the Trump administration's controversial "China Initiative."


Authored by: TN Science Desk
Updated May 1, 2023 | 03:39 PM IST

99908368.jpg

The Great American Brain Drain: US Left in the Dust as Top Scientists Flock to China

In a stunning turn of events, new data from the Organisation for Economic Co‐operation and Development (OECD) reveals that the United States is rapidly losing ground to China in the race to attract the world's brightest scientific minds. China's successful strategy to entice researchers to work at its affiliated universities is paying off, according to the CATO Institute.

America's Loss of Talent: A Troubling Trend

Back in 2017, the United States was able to attract 4,292 scientists, while China gained a mere 116. Fast forward to 2021, and the tables have turned: the US lost published research scientists, whereas China welcomed a whopping 2,408 scientific authors. The OECD suggests that more Chinese scientists returning to their home country are responsible for this dramatic shift.

The Controversial "China Initiative" and its Impact on Researchers

It's essential to note that this trend began before the COVID-19 pandemic and appears to have been influenced by the Trump administration's controversial "China Initiative." Launched in November 2018, this Department of Justice campaign was intended to address intellectual property theft and espionage. However, it resulted in the intimidation of institutions employing scientists of Chinese heritage and numerous failed prosecutions of scientists collaborating with Chinese institutions.

U.S. Attorney Andrew E. Lelling has admitted that the initiative he helped spearhead "created a climate of fear among researchers." This fear among Chinese scientists could lead to the United States losing out on their valuable discoveries and contributions.

Despite the Justice Department's claims of discontinuing the "China Initiative," there is skepticism about whether Chinese scientists will be free from unwarranted scrutiny in the future. The U.S. National Institutes of Health continues to boast about causing the dismissal of over 100 scientists and shutting down research by over 150 scientists, with over 80 percent identifying as 'Asian.' As a result, universities and U.S. companies are increasingly concerned about missing out on the talents of Chinese researchers.

Yo @beijingwalker , but I believe these are mainly Chinese students. Am I right or wrong?

China attracts more foreign scientists but US attracts way more foreign drug dealers, human traffickers and fugitives.
Not to mention school shootings and mass shootings that happen quite frequently in USA.
 
Yo @beijingwalker , but I believe these are mainly Chinese students. Am I right or wrong?
Don't know, probably


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The U.S. team tied for first place with China at the 60th International Mathematical Olympiad (IMO), which was held in Bath, United Kingdom, July 11-22. The six U.S. team members, Vincent Huang (a returning member from 2017 and 2018), Luke Robitaille, Colin Tang, Edward Wan, Brandon Wang and Daniel Zhu also won gold medals for their individual high scores in the Olympiad, known as the world championship mathematics competition for high school students.
 

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