Zardari 'doubtful' of PTI government completing its term

[Norwegian]

Opposition don't need to do anything if they really want PTI to knock out

Just stay silent and let PTI run this country for 5 years

Opposition will go out of business if PTI stays for that long. Got itself 2/3 majority in KPK.

The army then in conjunction with the establishment decided to help PTI into power. Not so by cheating but by leveling the pplaying field to defeat PML-N and PPP who have built expertise in corrupting the electoral process and have the infrastructure to bend the elections their way. Which assures both get a chance to keep raping Pakistan. Given PTI and IK's inexperiance in this dirty game of politics the army played a role as umpire to offset the dirty tactics of both parties

I came to the same conclusion before elections but my thread was locked for not providing evidence
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/establishment-is-supporting-pti-in-2018-general-elections.567963/

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Opposition will go out of business if PTI stays for that long. Got itself 2/3 majority in KPK.

PML(N) was also getting majority in Punjab in the past. PPP is also getting majority in Sindh in each election. Was it because of performance? PTI has set a very high benchmark for themselves and they will kill themselves if don't performs as per expectation. There will bo no more excuse that we did not got chance aur humari bari nhi ahee.. just watch and see

 

[Norwegian]

PML(N) was also getting majority in Punjab in the past. PPP is also getting majority in Sindh in each election. Was it because of performance? PTI has set a very high benchmark for themselves and they will kill themselves if don't performs as per expectation ..just watch and see

You guys said the same about PTIs performance in KPK since 2013. Now they have 2/3 majority. Other parties are wiped out from the province. When reality doesn't match ideology, you guys cry conspiracy

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I came to the same conclusion before elections but my thread was locked for not providing evidence

Note. What I was told by this gent was there was no cheating involved. The field was made level by capping the cheats. It is one thing to say IK was cheated into office and another thing to say the cheats [NS/AZ] were restrained from cheating. That is the army created a level playing field by taking on the role of umpire. Thus giving PTI a chance or else in dirty politics of Pakistan which are rigged to the mafia would have won again.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

You guys said the same about PTIs performance in KPK since 2013. Now they have 2/3 majority. Other parties are wiped out from the province. When reality doesn't match ideology, you guys cry conspiracy

You did not tell me when others parties get majority in certain provinces. Were it also because of performance? or you use one criteria for KPK and different criteria for others province

 

[Jaanbaz]

Mr 10% should be behind bars. One more thing why doesn't ISI question this scumbag whose governments gave thousands of visas to Blackwater American mercenaries, what was their purpose in Pakistan other then help facilitate ethnic terrorists in Pakistan.

 

[Moonlight]

Why do people even take his statements seriously? He’s irrelevant now.

 

[Norwegian]

You did not tell me when others parties get majority in certain provinces. Were it also because of performance? or you use one criteria for KPK and different criteria for others province

There are various factors. In Sindh it's impossible to defeat PPP since 1970. Yet the province is a shithole. As for Punjab the vote was closely divided between PTI / PMLN. If Punjab was divided in North / South, it's clear from the results that pmln goons would have won again in North while PTI winning South.
KPK has always been ANP and other Islamic factions homeground. Yet the results show that people once again trusted PTI despite oppositions criticism عمران خان نے کے پی کے میں کیا کر لیا

 

[Verve]

Kuttay to bhonkayn gay .. bhonknay do iss ko.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

There are various factors. In Sindh it's impossible to defeat PPP since 1970. Yet the province is a shithole. As for Punjab the vote was closely divided between PTI / PMLN. If Punjab was divided in North / South, it's clear from the results that pmln goons would have won again in North while PTI winning South.
KPK has always been ANP and other Islamic factions homeground. Yet the results show that people once again trusted PTI despite oppositions criticism عمران خان نے کے پی کے میں کیا کر لیا

Try to understand post. You said making government in KPK twice mean great performance and trust of people in PTI but you don't apply same logic in Punjab and Sindh where people have been voting for PML(N) and PPP not twice but even more

Argument of PTI (even when they had government in KPK) was that they never got chance in centre so they had no control to change the fate of country by making major reforms to make Pakistan Medina like welfare Riysat . Now they got the majority and chance and if they did not fulfil the expectation of people then they will face exit just like existing parties ..Just look at results of by election which was draw

 

[Yankee-stani]

As long as PM IK stays in tune with the army PTI will complete their term. And Bajwa/IK are two peas in the pod. Hope the same continues with next COAS.

Its Refreshing to see the Armed Forces and the Civilian are on the same page I am not concerned about IK being a dirty pawn and much of his PTI Party is good but alas I am concerned more about the TLP Goons and the pathetic civil society tainted by decades of Wahhabism thanks to our cough cough politicians investments in the Gulf and the courupt bureacracy.

Note. What I was told by this gent was there was no cheating involved. The field was made level by capping the cheats. It is one thing to say IK was cheated into office and another thing to say the cheats [NS/AZ] were restrained from cheating. That is the army created a level playing field by taking on the role of umpire. Thus giving PTI a chance or else in dirty politics of Pakistan which are rigged to the mafia would have won again.

May Allah(Swt) bless our PAF for preventing us from becoming another Syria or Iraq kudos to them

 

[Imad.Khan]

You did not tell me when others parties get majority in certain provinces. Were it also because of performance? or you use one criteria for KPK and different criteria for others province

KPK is different to other provinces, in KPK they vote on the basis of performance, they were famous for not giving a second chance to any party. This is the first time that a party not only won again but won with 2/3rd majority.

Punjab voted for PMLN, they had 2 reasons for doing that, first was that atleast he is better than Zardari, and second was that he was from Punjab.

While for Sindh, we can break it into 2 sections, interior Sindh and urban Sindh. Interior Sindh, they vote for who ever their "Saaeen" will tell them to vote for. In urban Sindh, it was a mostly MQM and we all know why they voted for MQM, once the threat of MQM "na mallom afrad" was eliminated they voted differently, surprising even PPP lost from their stronghold in Liyari. Take the power away from the "Saaeens" and you will see a different voting pattern in Interior Sindh.

Argument of PTI (even when they had government in KPK) was that they never got chance in centre so they had no control to change the fate of country by making major reforms to make Pakistan Medina like welfare Riysat . Now they got the majority and chance and if they did not fulfil the expectation of people then they will face exit just like existing parties ..Just look at results of by election which was draw

I agree, if PTI doesn't perform then they will be history and people like me who only got interested in politics because of IK will go back to the sense of hopelessness, as there is no one else worthy.

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

KPK is different to other provinces, in KPK they vote on the basis of performance, they were famous for not giving a second chance to any party. This is the first time that a party not only won again but won with 2/3rd majority.

Punjab voted for PMLN, they had 2 reasons for doing that, first was that atleast he is better than Zardari, and second was that he was from Punjab.

While for Sindh, we can break it into 2 sections, interior Sindh and urban Sindh. Interior Sindh, they vote for who ever their "Saaeen" will tell them to vote for. In urban Sindh, it was a mostly MQM and we all know why they voted for MQM, once the threat of MQM "na mallom afrad" was eliminated they voted differently, surprising even PPP lost from their stronghold in Liyari. Take the power away from the "Saaeens" and you will see a different voting pattern in Interior Sindh.



I agree, if PTI doesn't perform then they will be history and people like me who only got interested in politics because of IK will go back to the sense of hopelessness, as there is no one else worthy.

I agree with all of your points there except that voters in Punjab voted PML(N) because Nawaz is from Punjab. Imran khan also lived in Lahore Punjab entire his life and has got many politicians who are from Punjab so its always Punjabi politicians vs Punjabi politicians battle in Punjab so ethnicity is not relevant .

You are ignoring this fact that people have difference of opinions when it come to judging the performances of political parties in their constituencies. Some voters don't even look beyond their constituency let alone voting on the basis that whether president of certain party is Sinshi, Pashtun or Punjabi that's why Sindhi( Bhutto), Pashtun(Imran) and Punjabi Kashmiri( Nawaz) managed to form government in centre .

People used to say same about Karachi but now khrachi even voted PTI instead of MQM . People will not care ethnic if you actually make them believe that you are better alternative for them than existing options . Its all about performance. PTI did not invest in Sindh as much as they did in Punjab. all parties are ignoring Sindh that's why PPP is still strong there

 

[BATMAN]

Bill for Hanging Corrupt people in Pakistan is now being prepared Time is up for Zardari Clan

Crimes of Zardari are much bigger than corruption.
However, if Imran Khan handle state economy without further begging is indeed doubt full.

Just stay silent and let PTI run this country for 5 years

Actually, its PTI which has made most of the noise thus far.

PTI should strengthen NAB to take care of corruption and themselves they should focus on state affairs.