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Your next car could be electric—and Chinese
By Isabelle Niu in ShenzhenNovember 16, 2018

When it comes to making and buying electric cars, there’s China and then there’s everyone else. As of April of this year, China accounted for about 35% of all the electric cars sold in the world. Its consumers are on track to buy 1 million (link in Chinese) electric cars by the end of the year.

Government policy—rather than market economics—created the electric car craze there. For nearly a decade, China’s government has poured money into the EV industry, offering generous tax incentives and subsidies for car makers and consumers, building charging infrastructures across the country, and placing restrictions on the sales and use of gasoline cars.

As a result, electric vehicles have become a large part of Chinese people’s daily lives in a way that hasn’t happened in countries like the US. And there’s no better place to see that than in Shenzhen, one of China’s tech hubs in the southern part of the country.

Shenzhen is the world’s only city to have 100% electric buses. It’s also one of the first Chinese cities to set a goal to replace all gasoline-run taxis with new electric vehicles, which includes pure battery vehicles and plug-in hybrids. And that’s not a coincidence. Shenzhen is home to BYD, the world’s second largest EV maker after Tesla.

The Chinese company, which is backed by Warren Buffet, received about $590 million in subsidies from both the local and central government. That support played a big role in BYD’s growth from a battery maker into a major player in the global EV market in a little over two decades, according to Qiu Kaijun, who runs a website (link in Chinese) for electric vehicle industry insiders. Another Chinese company,Contemporary Amperex Technology (CATL), has recently signed a contract with BMW, replacing Samsung as its battery supplier. That’s a pretty big deal, considering the battery makes up as much as 40% of the cost of an electric car.

The Chinese government sees EVs as an opportunity for China to leapfrog competitors and become a major car manufacturer. The success of these Chinese companies is a sign that hope is coming true, Qiu said. But subsidies won’t last for much longer. Over the next five years, China plans to wean domestic EV makers off subsidies and raise technical standards. Chinese car makers will have to compete on a more level playing field with foreign companies, including Tesla and Volkswagen, which are both building factories in China.

“After 2020, foreign brand EVs will eat into the market shares of domestic ones more than they do now, but they won’t blow Chinese car brands out of the water,” Qiu said. “If you only compare the top models, Chinese brands and foreign brands will be more or less on the same level.”

Another major milestone lies ahead in the near future. Batteries and getting better and cheaper. By 2025, the cost of an electric car could be comparable to that of a car with an internal combustion engine (ICE). And when that happens, the era of ICE cars will be coming to an end. So whoever is best positioned to compete in the EV market now could come to dominate the global auto market in the future. It will likely still be Germany, Japan and the US, but China is adding itself to that list.

https://qz.com/1463563/your-next-car-could-be-electric-and-chinese/
 
Your next car could be electric—and Chinese
By Isabelle Niu in ShenzhenNovember 16, 2018

When it comes to making and buying electric cars, there’s China and then there’s everyone else. As of April of this year, China accounted for about 35% of all the electric cars sold in the world. Its consumers are on track to buy 1 million (link in Chinese) electric cars by the end of the year.

Government policy—rather than market economics—created the electric car craze there. For nearly a decade, China’s government has poured money into the EV industry, offering generous tax incentives and subsidies for car makers and consumers, building charging infrastructures across the country, and placing restrictions on the sales and use of gasoline cars.

As a result, electric vehicles have become a large part of Chinese people’s daily lives in a way that hasn’t happened in countries like the US. And there’s no better place to see that than in Shenzhen, one of China’s tech hubs in the southern part of the country.

Shenzhen is the world’s only city to have 100% electric buses. It’s also one of the first Chinese cities to set a goal to replace all gasoline-run taxis with new electric vehicles, which includes pure battery vehicles and plug-in hybrids. And that’s not a coincidence. Shenzhen is home to BYD, the world’s second largest EV maker after Tesla.

The Chinese company, which is backed by Warren Buffet, received about $590 million in subsidies from both the local and central government. That support played a big role in BYD’s growth from a battery maker into a major player in the global EV market in a little over two decades, according to Qiu Kaijun, who runs a website (link in Chinese) for electric vehicle industry insiders. Another Chinese company,Contemporary Amperex Technology (CATL), has recently signed a contract with BMW, replacing Samsung as its battery supplier. That’s a pretty big deal, considering the battery makes up as much as 40% of the cost of an electric car.

The Chinese government sees EVs as an opportunity for China to leapfrog competitors and become a major car manufacturer. The success of these Chinese companies is a sign that hope is coming true, Qiu said. But subsidies won’t last for much longer. Over the next five years, China plans to wean domestic EV makers off subsidies and raise technical standards. Chinese car makers will have to compete on a more level playing field with foreign companies, including Tesla and Volkswagen, which are both building factories in China.

“After 2020, foreign brand EVs will eat into the market shares of domestic ones more than they do now, but they won’t blow Chinese car brands out of the water,” Qiu said. “If you only compare the top models, Chinese brands and foreign brands will be more or less on the same level.”

Another major milestone lies ahead in the near future. Batteries and getting better and cheaper. By 2025, the cost of an electric car could be comparable to that of a car with an internal combustion engine (ICE). And when that happens, the era of ICE cars will be coming to an end. So whoever is best positioned to compete in the EV market now could come to dominate the global auto market in the future. It will likely still be Germany, Japan and the US, but China is adding itself to that list.

https://qz.com/1463563/your-next-car-could-be-electric-and-chinese/
Great stuff. Regardless of that.....was at Airbus Hua Ou last month....Teslas everywhere....
 
Great stuff. Regardless of that.....was at Airbus Hua Ou last month....Teslas everywhere....

BYD talked the big talk about selling all-electric cars globally since 2009.

http://www.electric-vehiclenews.com/2009/08/
BYD to Sell Electric Car in US by 2010

https://newatlas.com/byd-target-us-launch-for-electric-cars-in-2011/10766/
BYD target US launch for electric cars in 2011

They've kept delaying the rollout every year since,

Tesla rolls out their first Model S in 2012 and has been expanding worldwide. Meanwhile BYD is just now moving from gasoline-electric hybrids to all-electric (even their heavily hyped super-fast "Tesla killer" BYD Tang was a hybrid). Maybe after reverse-engineering a Tesla they finally figured out how to get things done.
 
BYD talked the big talk about selling all-electric cars globally since 2009.

http://www.electric-vehiclenews.com/2009/08/
BYD to Sell Electric Car in US by 2010

https://newatlas.com/byd-target-us-launch-for-electric-cars-in-2011/10766/
BYD target US launch for electric cars in 2011

They've kept delaying the rollout every year since,

Tesla rolls out their first Model S in 2012 and has been expanding worldwide. Meanwhile BYD is just now moving from gasoline-electric hybrids to all-electric (even their heavily hyped super-fast "Tesla killer" BYD Tang was a hybrid). Maybe after reverse-engineering a Tesla they finally figured out how to get things done.
This is not delayed, we care more about the big picture.

, China accounted for about 35% of all the electric cars sold in the world.

Bloomberg New Energy Finance said that close to 400,000 electric buses were operating around the world last year, 99 percent of which are in China.
 
This is not delayed, we care more about the big picture.

, China accounted for about 35% of all the electric cars sold in the world.

BYD is delayed in their worldwide car rollout by at least 8 years.

Show me BYD's all-electric car sales outside of China. I think they only sell some in Australia..and even then I think those are all hybrids.
 
China woud have to beat Japans legendary reliability and the Germans build quality to become a player in the electric space, given the costs involved in electric cars.

On both accounts, China has a poor reputation on reliability, quality and with safety being weak spot. These could change over time mind you, but their reputation is quite bad as of now..
 
China woud have to beat Japans legendary reliability and the Germans build quality to become a player in the electric space, given the costs involved in electric cars.

On both accounts, China has a poor reputation on reliability, quality and with safety being weak spot. These could change over time mind you, but their reputation is quite bad as of now..
20 or so years ago China built her first highway, now Chinese highways are No.1 in length in the world, 10 years ago China finished her first high speed railway, now China boasts over half of the world HSR in operation.

15 years ago city of Shanghai had its first subway line, now Shanghai's subway is the longest in the world.(Beijing is a close second).

10 years ago no Chinese companies can produce a simple cellphone but now Chinese phones and computers are the most sold in the world, if your mind is stuck in the past, don't blame this world for changing so fast.

That's how fast China does things.
 

Check youtube and find the videos showing those buses running in many cities around the world.

This is not a car. It is a bus. Why are you posting it?

Do you understand the title in the OP and what it means?
Your next car could be electric—and Chinese


BYD to Sell Electric Car in US by 2010
BYD target US launch for electric cars in 2011
 
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This is not a car. It is a bus. Why are you posting it?

Do you understand the title in the OP and what it means?
Your next car could be electric—and Chinese


BYD to Sell Electric Car in US by 2010
BYD target US launch for electric cars in 2011
Buses are cars, eletric cars for now are not as popular as conventional ones but with the development of battery technology, they could gradually replace gas powered cars in the future, Now China is leading country for electric cars production, the OP is definitely talking about the future, not at this moment.
 

Check youtube and find the videos showing those buses running in many cities around the world.

First of all, BUS ARE NOT CAR.

Second of all, BYD Buses are not really THAT Common in the world, In fact, Electric Bus are not really a thing in the world yet, due to its long trip cost and low operational envelope, most Electric Bus are on short or shuttle route, and the world Bus market were dominated by LPG Clean-Air Bus, which basically Dominated by Volvo and Mercedes

If I remember correctly City of London, only operate 73 Electricity Buses, 37 of those are BYD, the other 36 are Wrightbus, Compare it with the number of LPG Hybrid Bus, its 73 Electric Bus to 2270 Hybrid Bus.

So Even Electric Bus are not really popular in London, and most of the world follow the same pattern.
 

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