Worried about China machismo,India PM told US

[ChinaToday]

NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh told US secretary of state in a meeting in 2009 that India was bothered by the "recent assertiveness of China", says a WikiLeaks cable.

Singh also expressed concern about the US-China joint statement during President Barack Obama's visit to China that year, saying it had created the impression back home that there would be "outside interference" in South Asia that would not be acceptable.

India too wants to see the peaceful rise of China, Singh said. He noted that they had been engaged for the past five years through special representatives to discuss border issues. "Both sides agreed to maintain peace and tranquility, but Singh noted India was bothered by the recent assertiveness of China," says the cable, dated December 4, 2009.

Clinton had responded by saying that the US wanted good Sino-Indian ties, and Beijing to be successful without acting as a threat to its neighbours and the rest of the world. She added that the US also had an interest in encouraging China to persuade Pakistan to confront internal threats.

"We would also look to India for guidance in the region, she said. The secretary added that China's interests in Afghanistan and Pakistan were mostly economic, citing its copper mine operations in Afghanistan as a prime example," says the cable.

Discussing Afghanistan, Singh said if the international community did not stay the course in Afghanistan, terrorist elements would conclude that they had defeated the Soviets and now the US in Afghanistan, which would have "disastrous consequences" for peace and security in west, central and south Asia. Singh noted that the new government in Afghanistan had its shortcomings (a poor governance record and corruption), but it was important for the international community to support the regime. Singh added that it would take time for democracy to take hold in Afghanistan, and there would only be modest returns in the short term.

Worried about China machismo, PM told US - The Times of India

Dont worry PM Singh China not going to attack India.

 

[jbond197]

Dont worry PM Singh China not going to attack India.

Believe me it's not going to be in China's interest, if it ever happens...

On a side note - We as two of the oldest surviving civilizations have lived in peace all this while and I hope it continues to stay that way in future as well..

 

[IndoCarib]

Instead of whining all the time , the govt should develop some muscles and make the Chinese worry ! But then,What else can you expect from MMS, when he himself is worried about the machismo of Sonia !

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

What else can you expect from MMS, when he himself is worried about the machismo of Sonia !

LOL, burn.

I read in the Ecomomist that Manmohan Singh is popular outside of India, but disliked inside India.

 

[kawaraj]

dear master, would you protect me if China attack me, wouldn't you?

mmm, let me think, old man... what will you offer to me for my (false, emo) protection?

 

[jbond197]

dear master, would you protect me if China attack me, wouldn't you?

mmm, let me think, old man... what will you offer to me for my (false, emo) protection?

That's more the case of Pakistan than India and in your case Masters keep changing..

 

[Kaniska]

dear master, would you protect me if China attack me, wouldn't you?

mmm, let me think, old man... what will you offer to me for my (false, emo) protection?

This statement would have more sense if this is from any chinies guy..Come on dear...look at Pakistan...whatever you have quoted in your statement...Pakistan is doing since last 65 years in front of USA and now in front of China...your ridiculing of this statement is really a funny...Pakistan should look towards itself that it is Pak who has asked for protection umbrella to USA in all the wars that they fought with India.

Anyway...i beleive there is nothing wrong from MMS in expressing concern to USA...There is a difference between concern and asking protection......China is a growing military challenge in Asia ...and apart from that the neighours like India has valid reason to have conceren about its own security....

 

[LetsGetRowdy]

Dont worry PM Singh China not going to attack India.

agreed. indians shouldn't get worked up over this

 

[muse]

The US is deeply interested in promoting the idea that China, is now a Bull in a China shop, if you will, and must be confronted, this idea has increasing appeal among the US military and neo-con academics who are persuaded that US power displays can reverse US decline - Mr. H. Kissinger's On China is a warning to these academics and policy makers, it may be a warning they will likely ignore :


September 4, 2011
China’s Challenge at Sea
By AARON L. FRIEDBERG

Princeton, N.J.

AMERICA’S fiscal woes are placing the country on a path of growing strategic risk in Asia.

With Democrats eager to protect social spending and Republicans anxious to avoid tax hikes, and both saying the national debt must be brought under control, we can expect sustained efforts to slash the defense budget. Over the next 10 years, cuts in planned spending could total half a trillion dollars. Even as the Pentagon saves money by pulling back from Afghanistan and Iraq, there will be fewer dollars with which to buy weapons or develop new ones.

Unfortunately, those constraints are being imposed just as America faces a growing strategic challenge. Fueled by economic growth of nearly 10 percent a year, China has been engaged for nearly two decades in a rapid and wide-ranging military buildup. China is secretive about its intentions, and American strategists have had to focus on other concerns since 9/11. Still, the dimensions, direction and likely implications of China’s buildup have become increasingly clear.

When the cold war ended, the Pacific Ocean became, in effect, an American lake. With its air and naval forces operating through bases in friendly countries like Japan and South Korea, the United States could defend and reassure its allies, deter potential aggressors and insure safe passage for commercial shipping throughout the Western Pacific and into the Indian Ocean. Its forces could operate everywhere with impunity.

But that has begun to change. In the mid-1990s, China started to put into place the pieces of what Pentagon planners refer to as an “anti-access capability.” In other words, rather than trying to match American power plane for plane and ship for ship, Beijing has sought more cost-effective ways to neutralize it. It has been building large numbers of relatively inexpensive but highly accurate non-nuclear ballistic missiles, as well as sea- and air-launched cruise missiles. Those weapons could destroy or disable the handful of ports and airfields from which American air and naval forces operate in the Western Pacific and sink warships whose weapons could reach the area from hundreds of miles out to sea, including American aircraft carriers.

The Chinese military has also been testing techniques for disabling American satellites and cybernetworks, and it is adding to its small arsenal of long-range nuclear missiles that can reach the United States.

Although a direct confrontation seems unlikely, China appears to seek the option of dealing a knockout blow to America’s forward forces, leaving Washington with difficult choices about how to respond.

Those preparations do not mean that China wants war with the United States. To the contrary, they seem intended mostly to overawe its neighbors while dissuading Washington from coming to their aid if there is ever a clash. Uncertain of whether they can rely on American support, and unable to match China’s power on their own, other countries may decide they must accommodate China’s wishes.

In the words of the ancient military theorist Sun Tzu, China is acquiring the means to “win without fighting” — to establish itself as Asia’s dominant power by eroding the credibility of America’s security guarantees, hollowing out its alliances and eventually easing it out of the region.

If the United States and its Asian friends look to their own defenses and coordinate their efforts, there is no reason they cannot maintain a favorable balance of power, even as China’s strength grows. But if they fail to respond to China’s buildup, there is a danger that Beijing could miscalculate, throw its weight around and increase the risk of confrontation and even armed conflict. Indeed, China’s recent behavior in disputes over resources and maritime boundaries with Japan and the smaller states that ring the South China Sea suggest that this already may be starting to happen.

This is a problem that cannot simply be smoothed away by dialogue. China’s military policies are not the product of a misunderstanding; they are part of a deliberate strategy that other nations must now find ways to meet. Strength deters aggression; weakness tempts it. Beijing will denounce such moves as provocative, but it is China’s actions that currently threaten to upset the stability of Asia.

Many of China’s neighbors are more willing than they were in the past to ignore Beijing’s complaints, increase their own defense spending and work more closely with one another and the United States.

They are unlikely, however, to do those things unless they are convinced that America remains committed. Washington does not have to shoulder the entire burden of preserving the Asian power balance, but it must lead.

The Pentagon needs to put a top priority on finding ways to counter China’s burgeoning anti-access capabilities, thereby reducing the likelihood that they will ever be used. This will cost money. To justify the necessary spending in an era of austerity, our leaders will have to be clearer in explaining the nation’s interests and commitments in Asia and blunter in describing the challenge posed by China’s relentless military buildup.

Aaron L. Friedberg, a professor of politics and international affairs at Princeton, is the author of “A Contest for Supremacy: China, America and the Struggle for Mastery in Asia.”

 

[Infinity]

NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh told US secretary of state in a meeting in 2009 that India was bothered by the "recent assertiveness of China", says a WikiLeaks cable.

Singh also expressed concern about the US-China joint statement during President Barack Obama's visit to China that year, saying it had created the impression back home that there would be "outside interference" in South Asia that would not be acceptable.

India too wants to see the peaceful rise of China, Singh said. He noted that they had been engaged for the past five years through special representatives to discuss border issues. "Both sides agreed to maintain peace and tranquility, but Singh noted India was bothered by the recent assertiveness of China," says the cable, dated December 4, 2009.

Clinton had responded by saying that the US wanted good Sino-Indian ties, and Beijing to be successful without acting as a threat to its neighbours and the rest of the world. She added that the US also had an interest in encouraging China to persuade Pakistan to confront internal threats.

"We would also look to India for guidance in the region, she said. The secretary added that China's interests in Afghanistan and Pakistan were mostly economic, citing its copper mine operations in Afghanistan as a prime example," says the cable.

Discussing Afghanistan, Singh said if the international community did not stay the course in Afghanistan, terrorist elements would conclude that they had defeated the Soviets and now the US in Afghanistan, which would have "disastrous consequences" for peace and security in west, central and south Asia. Singh noted that the new government in Afghanistan had its shortcomings (a poor governance record and corruption), but it was important for the international community to support the regime. Singh added that it would take time for democracy to take hold in Afghanistan, and there would only be modest returns in the short term.

Worried about China machismo, PM told US - The Times of India

Dont worry PM Singh China not going to attack India.

Answer to your remark is in the post itself..........

 

[Water Car Engineer]

LOL, burn.

I read in the Ecomomist that Manmohan Singh is popular outside of India, but disliked inside India.

He is well respected mostly, but there are some that don't like him of course.

 

[T-Rex]

That's more the case of Pakistan than India and in your case Masters keep changing..

You don't change masters, you just add new ones.

 

[jbond197]

Never mind..............