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Will Uncle Sam Go Postal in South Asia?

By:Eric Margolis


The US is now risking a military confrontation with old ally Pakistan that is both highly dangerous and unpredictable in the extreme.

It’s awfully hard for the world’s greatest power to admit its high-tech military forces are being beaten in Afghanistan by a bunch of lightly-armed mountain tribesmen that we dismiss as “terrorists.”

But that’s what’s happening in the “Graveyard of Empires.” Washington can’t and won’t admit it has blundered into a bloody, trillion dollar fiasco in Afghanistan.

Right now, Pakistan is the chief whipping boy for US imperial fury.

Last week, outgoing US chief of staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, accused Pakistan’s intelligence agency, ISI, of being behind recent high profile attacks against US targets in Afghanistan that were allegedly staged by the Haqqani network, one of Taliban’s coalition members fighting foreign occupation. A recent assault by Taliban mujahidin on the US Embassy in Kabul revived very bad dreams of the Viet Cong’s war-winning 1968 Tet Offensive.

Admiral Mullen accused the Haqqani network of being “a virtual arm” of ISI. Pakistan strongly denied US charges. In fact, both CIA and Pakistan’s intelligence agency, ISI, have long maintained covert links with the Haqqani group.

Much of CIA’s intelligence on Afghanistan comes from two sources: electronic intercepts, and the Afghan government’s intelligence service.

Most anti-US fighters are far too experienced to use electronic communications they know are easily picked up by US satellites, aircraft, drones, airships, and ground stations.

The Afghan government intelligence service is dominated by Tajik Communists from the old Soviet-created KHAD intelligence agency who are blood enemies of Pakistan and Afghanistan’s Pashtun majority.

Afghan spooks have become a primary source of disinformation to US military and civilian intelligence outfits, and likely the source of claims that Pakistan’s ISI was behind recent attacks on US targets in Afghanistan. US intelligence was similarly misled in 2003 over Iraq by a “friendly,” self-serving intelligence service.


Official Washington is reacting with free-form rage rather than careful thought. No doubt, the example of the Soviet 1989 defeat in Afghanistan increasingly haunts Washington.

Ironically, as I saw myself in the 1980’s, the US created the Haqqani network, arming and funding it. In those halcyon days, Jalaluddin Haqqani and Pashtun fighters were hailed by the US as “freedom fighters.” Now, they are “terrorists.”

One of the US Senate’s least intelligent members, influential Republican Lindsay Graham, is threatening more US attacks on Pakistan “to defend US troops” from “terrorism.” US Predator drones are now staging almost daily attacks inside Pakistan – without even advising the feeble government in Islamabad.

Sen. Graham’s threat is pretty rich. The US invades a country, brands any who resist as “terrorists,” then threatens to bomb and/or invade its neighbor to “protect” the invasion force.
Meanwhile, the US is paying bankrupt Pakistan $7.5 billion over five years to sustain the war in Afghanistan.


Ever since the days of George W. Bush, US policy in the Muslim world has been driven by a combination of imperial arrogance and profound ignorance.

When the US was preparing to invade Iraq in 2003, I had dinner with three of Bush’s most senior advisors. “Tell us about Iraq, Eric,” they asked. As I spoke of Kurds, Sunnis, assorted Shia, Yazdis, their eyes quickly glazed over.
“Just give us the bottom line,” snapped one Alpha Republican. “The bottom line,” I replied, “is don’t get involved in a messy country you don’t understand at all.”

Well, here we go again with Pakistan. Hardly any senior members of the Obama administration understand complex Pakistan. There are some experts in Washington who do understand, but they are routinely ignored. The same things happened with Iraq.

The American bulls in South Asia’s china shop are ready to charge in, heedless of the facts or risks.

Threatening war against Pakistan, a nation of 180 million with a tough military is the height of folly. Our forces have not faced a tough enemy ground force since Vietnam. Pakistan will be no cakewalk
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Pakistan controls most of the supply routes essential to US and NATO forces in Afghanistan. Most Pakistanis now consider the US a bigger enemy than old foe India.

Even crazier, Washington is making warlike threats against nuclear-armed Pakistan, a very close ally of China, an important nuclear power. So far, Beijing has been cautious yet firm in its support of old ally, Pakistan.

But US attacks on Pakistan that go beyond the current raids by CIA drones could draw China into a confrontation with the US. China has quietly made clear it will not allow the US to tear apart Pakistan in order to grab Islamabad’s Chinese-aided nuclear arsenal.

More craziness. The US under both Bush and Barack Obama has been trying to get India militarily involved in Afghanistan. But the Indians were too clever to send combat troops into Afghanistan.


Washington then gave India a green light to pour intelligence agents and money into Afghanistan to support the anti-Taliban Tajik, Uzbek and Hazara minorities. The US has greatly aided the buildup of India’s nuclear arsenal – which has only two targets, Pakistan and China.


All this, of course, has set off alarm bells in Islamabad, which sees Afghanistan as its strategic back yard. Russia and China are also watching this drama with growing unease, torn between concern about militant Islamists and intrusive US power.

The strategic interests of Pakistan and the US are different, often in conflict. Yet the US “put a gun to our head,” as I was told by both a former ISI director and Pakistan’s former president, Pervez Musharraf, and forced to join the war against Taliban, a close Pakistani ally and strategic asset.


Why should Pakistan forsake its own strategic interests for those of the United States, whose confused, erratic foreign policy is increasingly seen abroad a being run by domestic special interest and extreme religious groups?

A blow-up between Pakistan and its sometime American patron would be a calamity for all concerned. Expanding a war into the intersection of the interests of four nuclear-armed powers is the height of irresponsibility and manic behavior.

But so long as America’s war in Afghanistan continues it indeed threatens to destabilize Pakistan and runs the risk of nuclear confrontation in South Asia
 
I foresee no sudden changes that would represent "going postal".

There will likely be a slow ratcheting up of pressure from several directions, yes, but no direct warfare should be needed for that. I can imagine India will only be too happy to return in kind to Pakistan the favors done by it in Kashmir over the last few decades.
 
Hi,

If india has matured any bit in the last 10 years---then it will let bygones be bygones and not harp on what happened in the past---between pakistan and itself regarding kashmir---.

Peace is a much better solution for both these nations inclusive of afghanistan as well-------. India will have to show magnanimity when dealing with this problem---because india is in a much stronger position for negotiating peace. If india starts looking at pakistan as a brother rather than an enemy---a brother who has a seperate household and treats it as such and openly says that----then it will just simply burst the bubble of hatred that has been created.

The ball is in india's court to bring the temperature down---. I very much doubt if india would play proxy to U S interests against pakistan---.
 
..................-----. India will have to show magnanimity when dealing with this problem---because india is in a much stronger position for negotiating peace. ..........................

The problem is that in Geopolitics, a stronger hand does not predispose the party to negotiate peace. The weaker party must ask for peace, and according to the terms allowed by the stronger party.
 
The US has greatly aided the buildup of India’s nuclear arsenal – which has only two targets, Pakistan and China

how???
But US attacks on Pakistan that go beyond the current raids by CIA drones could draw China into a confrontation with the US. China has quietly made clear it will not allow the US to tear apart Pakistan in order to grab Islamabad’s Chinese-aided nuclear arsenal.

next to impossible.its the only hype created by pakistanis to divert attention.
 
See the thing is that Haqqanis or whoever Americans are after........are not really the enemies of NATO alliance....but merely US.....So NATO would back off as so many nations cannot destroy their relationship with Pakistan.

Secondly, Haqqanis are not going to be sitting waving flags that Americans can just come....bomb a few places and say that it's end of the Haqqanis........Americans will have to go deep....find them..........and that isn't gonna happen...i don't see their military engaging fighters in the bad *** land of North waziristan or as they say around Quetta........they will lose bad....bloody bad.......i hope they control whatever is left of their sanity......
 
Hi,

If india has matured any bit in the last 10 years---then it will let bygones be bygones and not harp on what happened in the past---between pakistan and itself regarding kashmir---.

Peace is a much better solution for both these nations inclusive of afghanistan as well-------. India will have to show magnanimity when dealing with this problem---because india is in a much stronger position for negotiating peace. If india starts looking at pakistan as a brother rather than an enemy---a brother who has a seperate household and treats it as such and openly says that----then it will just simply burst the bubble of hatred that has been created.

The ball is in india's court to bring the temperature down---. I very much doubt if india would play proxy to U S interests against pakistan---.
Pakistanis talking about maturity is really hilarious..If Pakistan and India were two people ...Pakistan was and is behaving like loony bin..U talk about maturity and u forget about It was Indian PM who went to Pakistan on a bus for peace and all that time the mature Pakistani army was occupying the kargil heights...Remember 2008 Mumbai attacks..It was not India which let Hafizz sayeed go for the butchering of innocent people...I think u have been given a bad definition of Maturity..

The ball is in Pakistan's court. It has to stop dreaming about Kashmir and agree to present border as the International borders..

The funny thing is u talk as India is the immature of the two nations but the irony is India with all its faults is going forward strongly and Pakistan state..well ..u know better than me what its situation is...
 
The problem is that in Geopolitics, a stronger hand does not predispose the party to negotiate peace. The weaker party must ask for peace, and according to the terms allowed by the stronger party.

Hi,

Still got to learn---hehn----still got to learn----. Remember the peace deal between the british govt and ira----. The best example that there is----british realized that even they are many a times stronger, will have to swallow it when it came to making peace----.

They had learnt very well from the peace deal according to your " that in Geopolitics, a stronger hand does not predispose the party to negotiate peace"---after the WW 1------the humiliating peace deal that resulted into the nazi's coming into power----.

In making a peace deal---it needs to be understood----the bone of contention between the two parties---if it is see sawing like the kashmir issue---then it is not worth it for the stronger party---like india to continue---because if they had not been able to resolve it with war and politcal chess board game playing---then it won't be resolved doing the same thing for the next 60 years.

Do you think the americans are talking to taliban out of pure love---or because they are equal in power----how about the haqqani group----.

Those days of dictation by the strong nations are long gone----because the weak nations have taken a more ruthless direction in proving their point---I mean to say---you can subdue a tribe by force----but you cannot subdue a nation by force----nationhood goes much deeper than tribal boundaries----.
 
Pakistanis talking about maturity is really hilarious..If Pakistan and India were two people ...Pakistan was and is behaving like loony bin..U talk about maturity and u forget about It was Indian PM who went to Pakistan on a bus for peace and all that time the mature Pakistani army was occupying the kargil heights...Remember 2008 Mumbai attacks..It was not India which let Hafizz sayeed go for the butchering of innocent people...I think u have been given a bad definition of Maturity..

The ball is in Pakistan's court. It has to stop dreaming about Kashmir and agree to present border as the International borders..

The funny thing is u talk as India is the immature of the two nations but the irony is India with all its faults is going forward strongly and Pakistan state..well ..u know better than me what its situation is...

Sir,

You need to remember---the sword is double edged----it cuts both ways----and your edge didnot dull either---. There is my side of the story---there is your side of the story---and then there is the truth---.

India has to change---specially after the mumbai attacks----when peace talks stopped and the terrorists won that round---. The world is not listening to india any more---. The only problem is that it has yet to hear the cries of the kashmiris in the n the indian side of kashmir----once the world hears their cries---it will be a different story.
 
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The dynamic due disagree and US dare not do anything
 
Hi,

If india has matured any bit in the last 10 years---then it will let bygones be bygones and not harp on what happened in the past---between pakistan and itself regarding kashmir---.

Peace is a much better solution for both these nations inclusive of afghanistan as well-------. India will have to show magnanimity when dealing with this problem---because india is in a much stronger position for negotiating peace. If india starts looking at pakistan as a brother rather than an enemy---a brother who has a seperate household and treats it as such and openly says that----then it will just simply burst the bubble of hatred that has been created.

The ball is in india's court to bring the temperature down---. I very much doubt if india would play proxy to U S interests against pakistan---.

Yes…For all the conspiracy theories of Zaid Hamid and his likes, India would not play proxy to US interests against Pakistan. If India were to do this they would have done this by now when Pakistan is at its weakest--the OBL episode and US-Pak confrontation.

Anyway, I don't understand the second part "ball is in india's court to bring the temperature down". Care to explain?
 
Sir,

You need to remember---the sword is double edged----it cuts both ways----and your edge didnot dull either---. There is my side of the story---there is your side of the story---and then there is the truth---.

India has to change---specially after the mumbai attacks----when peace talks stopped and the terrorists won that round---. The world is not listening to india any more---. The only problem is that it has yet to hear the cries of the kashmiris in the n the indian side of kashmir----once the world hears their cries---it will be a different story.

Whatever you say redrawing boundaries is out of question. It would be extremely difficult for any government in India to convince the opposition and the people on Kashmir…more than 60 years have passed and with it life and blood of Indians too have flown and now after 64 years, Kashmir is not any more a piece of land, but life and death question for India. It is akin to asking China to give independence to Tibet.
 
Whatever you say redrawing boundaries is out of question. It would be extremely difficult for any government in India to convince the opposition and the people on Kashmir…more than 60 years have passed and with it life and blood of Indians too have flown and now after 64 years, Kashmir is not any more a piece of land, but life and death question for India. It is akin to asking China to give independence to Tibet.

Hi,

That is agreeable---so what ever agreement Musharraf and his indian counterpart reached---should be agreeable to both parties----and then to defeat the extremeists----both the countries need to keep on working together even under fire----that is the only way to defeat the terrorists---.

You know, in our every day dealing with people, family and friends---you want to have peace in your life---you give more to those who have less---. They don't feel deprived and let down and don't feel ashamed and that makes them work harder for a solution.

You are a business owner----you make a lots of profit---you don't share it with your employess---what will happen---they will be unhappy--production will go down---they will try to sabotage the assembly line one way or the other---but if you give them bonus---even a small one---even though they live in a different world---they become your friends and do more for you---. It is the same relationship between a stronger and a weaker nation.

There is an old chinese saying---when you want to kill your enemy---dig for two graves----you know what I am saying.
 
Sir,

You need to remember---the sword is double edged----it cuts both ways----and your edge didnot dull either---. There is my side of the story---there is your side of the story---and then there is the truth---.

India has to change---specially after the mumbai attacks----when peace talks stopped and the terrorists won that round---. The world is not listening to india any more---. The only problem is that it has yet to hear the cries of the kashmiris in the n the indian side of kashmir----once the world hears their cries---it will be a different story.

While the point made is accurate that ultimate peace is the only solution at the end, two lines are very irritating to say the least. You see when two parties decide that a solution has to be arrived at, they should leave certain preconceived notions aside. The second bolded part is the biggest one of Pakistan's arguments. What is there for world to listen to in Kashmir?? and you think there is certain kind of Iron curtain if is peak in sort of cold war language over Kashmir??

The first bolded part, in which way should we change?? if u mean to say that even after a terrorist attack we keep flying the dove and pigeon flag in the sky then the reaction from our side on recent terror attack is a clear answer. No accusations were made and later the blame was put on home grown terror as the "Indian Mujahideen" only were responsible. However do u mean to say even if some one on the other side is involved we should have tea and biscuits and sit talking about next round of peace talks??
India should change but what about Pakistan?? do u think there is no need for such a thing in your country??
 

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