Will the Zionist entity Israel be removed ?! _ A brief historical overview

[Pakhtoon yum]

If you turn the pages of 1400 Islamic history , muslim kill the muslim with help of non muslim.

Well said. A divided people cant dream of unification or liberation

 

[The SC]

The but is a sinister one. For it's not as simple as saying it has a shelf life. If events align perfectly then and only then can an occupied people gain freedom. In history more people have lost their battle against occupation then those that have won. I will give you an example regarding the native populations in the Americas. They have all but lost any chance of freedom from their occupiers.

Maya and Aztec civilisations were living in their own peaceful world completely cut from the outside world.. which was the opposite of the Middle East the cradle of civilisation, well aware of its surroundings and much beyond..and where wars, conquests and invasions were common in those days..So people were trained to fight and survive..that is the legacy till now..

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Maya and Aztec civilisations were living in their own peaceful world completely cut from the outside world.. which was the opposite of the Middle East the cradle of civilisation, well aware of its surroundings and much beyond..and where wars, conquests and invasions were common in those days..So people were trained to fight and survive..that is the legacy till now..

The indus was more of a "cradle of civilization" and in a sense, at the time one of the global superpowers, then the Arab world but look it it now. We are the conquerors and they are long gone. We hold their torch

 

[The SC]

The indus was more of a "cradle of civilization" and in a sense, at the time one of the global superpowers, then the Arab world but look it it now. We are the conquerors and they are long gone. We hold their torch

Well, that is debatable about the Indus valley versus the fertile crescent.. but to stay on topic read the OP again please.. see the past with the crusaders and today.. We certainly hold the torch..

 

[jamal18]

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Well, that is debatable about the Indus valley versus the fertile crescent.. but to stay on topic read the OP again please.. see the past with the crusaders and today.. We certainly hold the torch..

Yes, that's why I said its complicated and could change with the slightest event.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Early crusades were led by a group of people called the Knights Templar. They were the predecessors of today's Freemasons.

On Dec 11th 1917, British General Edmund Allenby, commander of the British “Egyptian Expeditionary Force,” captured Jerusalem, and stated "Today Crusades have ended".

After marching into Damascus in July 1920 to put down an anti-colonial rising, French General Henri Gouraud is reported to have stood at Salahudin Al-Ayubi's grave, kicked it and said: "The Crusades have ended now! Awake Saladin, we have returned!

So if anyone tries to separate today's Israel from the crusaders, they're purposefully lying. Israel was established and is still sustained by the same forces who defeated the Ottoman empire. It is in their words that we can see that they were leading the crusades. Every Israeli PM has been a Freemason. So in fact the seizure of the Holy Land by Zionist Jews is part of and the continuation of the Crusades.

 

[The SC]

If you turn the pages of 1400 Islamic history , muslim kill the muslim with help of non muslim.

Maybe 400 years Haider..1000 years was almost perfect..

 

[obj 705A]

Israel is a prosperous regional power while Arab countries on the other hand are backward third world countries & the Arabs are addicted to killing each other, in addition the Arab world is experiencing a significant increase in population while their productivity is not increasing at all, it's a ticking time bomb, not to mention that secterianism & radicalism is spreading like wildfire in the Arab world.
so no Israel is here to stay while all the Arab countries (except countries like the UAE) are bound to implode.
some people dont like to acknowlege Israel so they call it "Zionist entity" but the on the ground reality is that Palestine is still not even really a state and instead it is an entity.....the Palestinian entity.

 

[The SC]

Israel is a prosperous regional power while Arab countries on the other hand are backward third world countries & the Arabs are addicted to killing each other, in addition the Arab world is experiencing a significant increase in population while their productivity is not increasing at all, it's a ticking time bomb, not to mention that secterianism & radicalism is spreading like wildfire in the Arab world.
so no Israel is here to stay while all the Arab countries (except countries like the UAE) are bound to implode.
some people dont like to acknowlege Israel so they call it "Zionist entity" but the on the ground reality is that Palestine is still not even really a state and instead it is an entity.....the Palestinian entity.

There was a Palestinian state before 1948.. that is why Usrael is called a Zionist entity..they are occupiers..
The rest of your post about other Arab states is plain BS, since you have never lived in other Arab countries.. one can understand if you say that about Iraq or Syria.. both destroyed by wars..But Iraq in the 90s was more advanced than Usrael on its own..keep this in mind..

 

[500]

There was a Palestinian state before 1948..

No.

But Iraq in the 90s was more advanced than Usrael on its own..keep this in mind..

Quit smoking whatever u smoke.

 

[The SC]

No.


Quit smoking whatever u smoke.

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YES Palestine existed for Millennia, and you have been proven to lie in all your posts for a long time now..is that a habit or plain ignorance?

Peel Commission (1936–37)

Main article: Peel Commission

Peel Commission, partition plan A, November 1937

During the 1936–39 Arab revolt in Palestine the British government formed the Peel Commission, which recommended the formation of a Jewish and an Arab state. It called for a small Jewish state in the Galilee and maritime strip, a British enclave stretching from Jerusalem to Jaffa, and an Arab state covering the rest.[5] The Commission recommended the creation of a small Jewish state in a region less than 1/5 of the total area of Palestine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_State_of_Palestine

The history of Palestine is the study of the past in the region of Palestine, generally defined as a geographic region in the Southern Levant between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River...

The region was among the earliest in the world to see human habitation, agricultural communities and civilization. During the Early and Middle Bronze Age, independent Canaanite city-states were established, and were influenced by the surrounding civilizations of Mesopotamia, Phoenicia, Minoan Crete, Syria, and ancient Egypt, which ruled the area in the Late Bronze Age (1550–1200 BCE). The following period saw the emergence of the Israelites, who—according to the disputed Biblical tradition—established the United Kingdom of Israel in 1020 BCE.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine

These FACTS mean that Palestine preceded the appearance of the Israelites by more than 500 years..

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Both your graphs are BS..Comparing infant mortality rates of Usrael 4 to 5 million population in the 90s with the 17 million Iraqi population, while most of Usraeli citizens have dual nationalities mostly Western ones where they are treated!?

For the GDP per capita..are you stupid or what? You mean Usrael without the massive help of 10s of billions from the US, EU and the diaspora was richer than one of the big Oil producers in the world at that time..? Stop sniffing cocaine..

 

[500]

YES Palestine existed for Millennia, and you have been proven to lie in all your posts for a long time now..is that a habit or plain ignorance?

There was not any Palestinian state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine

From your article declaration of Palestinian state happened only in 1988. And in 1988 they did not control even 1 inch.

Both your graphs are BS..Comparing infant mortality rates of Usrael 4 to 5 million population in the 90s with the 17 million Iraqi population, while most of Usraeli citizens have dual nationalities mostly Western ones where they are treated!?

Most Israelis dont have dual nationalities and are treated in Israel. Infant mortality in Israel is lower than in US, EU and former USSR republics. Not talking about Arab countries, where from migrated nearly half of Israelis.

Infant mortality:

Israel - 3.4
EU - 4
USA - 5.8
Russia - 6.8
Ukraine - 7.8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_and_under-five_mortality_rates

For the GDP per capita..are you stupid or what? You mean Usrael without the massive help of 10s of billions from the US, EU and the diaspora was richer than one of the big Oil producers in the world at that time..? Stop sniffing cocaine..

Yes Israel was richer. Welcome to real world.

 

[sammuel]

YES Palestine existed for Millennia, and you have been proven to lie

Mr

You started an insulting thread trying to compare the Jewish exodus to their homeland , to the crusaders , who where not native to the land nor ever settled the land. Mostly what they built here where forts for their troops , monasteries and churches.

Which BTW today , make a spicy contribution to the landscape and only add to the flavor of this multicultural country :


Saint George Monostary , Judea desert.

Church of transfiguration , Galilee

Crusaders fortress , Akko

Other than that , only country that that existed there before was the kingdom of Judea. that existed for more than a thousand years , until conquered by the Romans. After that is was mostly under occupation of empires like the Ottoman and lastly , the British empire.


One of the last coins struck in the land of Judea , at about 135 AC during the last Bar kokhba revolt against the Romans :

(The lyre , btw , was a musical instrument used in the Temple in Jerusalem and his importance as a symbol dates back to the stories about king David playing the harp , Jewish coins used symbols of fruits or flowers or trees but not images of heads of rulers like the roman coins , for the simple reason of the comendment not to worship or make images of man ) :

Here is another example :

Don't know why you deny known historical facts and why pretend that you know better than 500 , the history of his own country. .. maybe some humility on your part would be advised ...

You are right about one thing though. Many of our leaders had the " pleasure " of spending some time in British prisons or where wanted by the British empire. Like Moshe Dayan and Yishak shamir.

Or as you like to call it :

persons wanted internationally with European arrest warrants for terrorism,

Seriously ? Now it has become wrong to fight an empire for your freedom ?


But thank you for mentioning this fact. Because some idiots here sometime try to claim that there is some conspiracy or that the British empire helped built Israel.

Which is not true , we had to fight them every step of the way.




Menahem Begin wanted poster :

Shamir wanted poster :

 

[The SC]

There was not any Palestinian state.


From your article declaration of Palestinian state happened only in 1988. And in 1988 they did not control even 1 inch.


Most Israelis dont have dual nationalities and are treated in Israel. Infant mortality in Israel is lower than in US, EU and former USSR republics. Not talking about Arab countries, where from migrated nearly half of Israelis.

Infant mortality:

Israel - 3.4
EU - 4
USA - 5.8
Russia - 6.8
Ukraine - 7.8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_and_under-five_mortality_rates


Yes Israel was richer. Welcome to real world.

Keep lying to sleep well..that won't last long..