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Wikileaks: no bloodshed inside Tiananmen Square, cables claim

How is that possible ? The big red commies maybe telling the truth ? No way, it is not in the DNA of the commies.

This will put a damper on a lot of posters here.
 
So it was a Beijing massacre instead, big difference.


Is that all you have to say ? It does not matter to you that for 22 years the so call "FREE" press has been lying and the so called state controlled press of China has been closer to the truth.


"So it was a Beijing massacre" from the mouth of the same guy that lied for 20 years ?
And you are all for him ??


In another 22 years the "Free" press will than say there was no Beijing massacre but there was some innocent people killed.

Western iiresponsible media sucks !!!
 
Is that all you have to say ? It does not matter to you that for 22 years the so call "FREE" press has been lying and the so called state controlled press of China has been closer to the truth.


"So it was a Beijing massacre" from the mouth of the same guy that lied for 20 years ?
And you are all for him ??


In another 22 years the "Free" press will than say there was no Beijing massacre but there was some innocent people killed.

Western iiresponsible media sucks !!!

Its irrelevant. Thousands died in Beijing for democratic protests. It doesn't matter if they died protesting in the square or protesting a couple miles away from it.

You're focusing on worthless info while ignoring that thousands of people died remains a confirmed fact by the leaks.
 
Its irrelevant. Thousands died in Beijing for democratic protests. It doesn't matter if they died protesting in the square or protesting a couple miles away from it.

You're focusing on worthless info while ignoring that thousands of people died remains a confirmed fact by the leaks.

You just want to read what you want to read. Not the facts. And your western irresponsible press feeds these false info to satisfy your anger towards China.

And where does it says thousands died ? Another "fact" ?


In 2009, James Miles, who was the BBC correspondent in Beijing at the time, admitted that he had "conveyed the wrong impression" and that "there was no massacre on Tiananmen Square.

Conveyed the wrong impression = Western journalism 101 = I lied
 
You just want to read what you want to read. Not the facts. And your western irresponsible press feeds these false info to satisfy your anger towards China.

And where does it says thousands died ? Another "fact" ?


In 2009, James Miles, who was the BBC correspondent in Beijing at the time, admitted that he had "conveyed the wrong impression" and that "there was no massacre on Tiananmen Square.

Conveyed the wrong impression = Western journalism 101 = I lied

Looks like you didn't read the article through.

towards the end...

but there was a Beijing massacre".

Instead, the fiercest fighting took place at Muxidi, around three miles west of the square, where thousands of people had gathered spontaneously on the night of June 3 to halt the advance of the army.

According to the Tiananmen Papers, a collection of internal Communist party files, soldiers started using live ammunition at around 10.30pm, after trying and failing to disperse the crowd with tear gas and rubber bullets. Incredulous, the crowd tried to escape but were hampered by its own roadblocks.
 
Looks like you didn't read the article through.

towards the end...

but there was a Beijing massacre".

Instead, the fiercest fighting took place at Muxidi, around three miles west of the square, where thousands of people had gathered spontaneously on the night of June 3 to halt the advance of the army.

According to the Tiananmen Papers, a collection of internal Communist party files, soldiers started using live ammunition at around 10.30pm, after trying and failing to disperse the crowd with tear gas and rubber bullets. Incredulous, the crowd tried to escape but were hampered by its own roadblocks.

And how many died in this "massacre"? There's an organization of Tiananmen mothers protesting every year on 6-4. There's 180 of them. Now, how many died in the Gwangju Uprising in South Korea whose repression was backed by the US Army? How many died in Jeju Island, massacred by the US backed South Korean military? You are a hypocrite if you don't address these.
 
And how many died in this "massacre"?
Enough to clear out this many people:
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As for where the massacre occurred, part of the problem seems to have been the Chinese government's cover-up. I only have memory at hand right now, but I recall the Economist running a photo of what they described as clumsy propaganda: a bloodied Chinese male corpse, clumsily clad in a spotless PLA jacket and cap. This construct was propped up against a wall of Tiananmen Square. So the presumption is that is where the massacre occurred.

I did learn better from one or two Chinese students who arrived in the U.S. afterward who were adamant that no shooting occurred inside the Square, but by then it was too late to tell the Western media otherwise. Sometimes the Chinese government is its own worst enemy...
 
Enough to clear out this many people:
As for where the massacre occurred, part of the problem seems to have been the Chinese government's cover-up. I only have memory at hand right now, but I recall the Economist running a photo of what they described as clumsy propaganda: a bloodied Chinese male corpse, clumsily clad in a spotless PLA jacket and cap. This construct was propped up against a wall of Tiananmen Square. So the presumption is that is where the massacre occurred.



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