Why India’s work on Iran’s Chabahar Port is stalled despite US exemption

[salarsikander]

Last I heard Huawei is still standing Bhai.

With what bro ? I am in no way comparing Huweiv our companies are from anything that Chinese companies are, it is indeed a great achievement but to what end, when all US needs to do, is Just turn off the tap and poof there goes the water

Yes, fuselage is the most low tech of all to make, its a metal part. Most are riveted not welded.

Ok so my Local welder can than easily make fuselage of F22 ?

Almost all US allies are poodles, what are we?

LOL, What else can I say then? If you're So adamant with your newly acquired Ego

 

[Han Patriot]

haha no, they probably don't want to get arrested while taking vacations in US or Canada.

So the few hundred million invested by India is burned? Could have provided alot of drinking water to your thirsty folks bhai. But I thought Chabahar was 'sanctions free', so why did the Europeans and Chinese stop selling?

So when is brave India buying a single drop of oil from Iran?

With what bro ? I am in no way comparing Huweiv our companies are from anything that Chinese companies are, it is indeed a great achievement but to what end, when all US needs to do, is Just turn off the tap and poof there goes the water


Ok so my Local welder can than easily make fuselage of F22 ?


LOL, What else can I say then? If you're So adamant with your newly acquired Ego

Alot of stuff is not even from US to begin with, there are local alternatives for some and some are from other countries. Cellphone might be very exposed to US components because of consumer requirement but for telco equipment, Huawei is basically near independent in this regard. Huawei will stand as long as China stand, you may not believe me, but this is a fact.

You might not be capable, but China is capable. Be my guess, just turn it off, which they already did. I told you Huawei will sell less phones, but the core technology is still there. Telco equipment is their core competency, not consumer cellphones.

They could if you invest in equipment and training. There is no rocket science in metal forming and riveting. My ego is not newly acquired, it was never there, I am confident, doesn't mean I am unrealistically egoistic. I have seen what we Chinese can achieve, the technologies we amassed, the competency we have until the West is so afraid of us. Who else can threaten the US dominance but us?. Die trying rather than surrender bhai!

 

[Chhatrapati]

So the few hundred million invested by India is burned? Could have provided alot of drinking water to your thirsty folks bhai. But I thought Chabahar was 'sanctions free', so why did the Europeans and Chinese stop selling?

So when is brave India buying a single drop of oil from Iran?

We changed the MOU over it. Is it hard to read? But the fact is Chinese companies are now scared to do trade with Iran and their companies are chicken scared to confront US. Now poor cheerleaders have to lap up theory that they want to deny India the chance. LOL! Probably scared of fate of Huawei CFO who is waiting to be send to US prison.

 

[Han Patriot]

We changed the MOU over it. Is it hard to read? But the fact is Chinese companies are now scared to do trade with Iran and their companies are chicken scared to confront US. Now poor cheerleaders have to lap up theory that they want to deny India the chance. LOL! Probably scared of fate of Huawei CFO who is waiting to be send to US prison.

Hey Chinese companies are profit driven, why should they sell those to a 'sanctions free' chabahar port, the good thing is maybe they deliberately don't want to sell to you, so now your few hundred million is as good as flowing down the drain.. It seems even Europeans don't dare to sell to a 'sanctions free' port with a risk of war. Such brave Indians. lol

Until now you still haven't answer me, DOES INDIA DARE BUY A SINGLE DROP OF IRANIAN OIL? I guess someone is America's bitch.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Hey Chinese companies are profit driven, why should they sell those to a 'sanctions free' chabahar port, the good thing is maybe they deliberately don't want to sell to you, so now your few hundred million is as good as flowing down the drain.. It seems even Europeans don't dare to sell to a 'sanctions free' port with a risk of war. Such brave Indians. lol

Until now you still haven't answer me, DOES INDIA DARE BUY A SINGLE DROP OF IRANIAN OIL? I guess someone is America's bitch.

haha in short you just agree that you don't want to loss business because of America because they can seriously affect your business. So you agree with the sanctions and not provide the equipment. No emoji's can't cover that. Nice try at deflection though.

 

[Han Patriot]

haha in short you just agree that you don't want to loss business because of America because they can seriously affect your business. So you agree with the sanctions and not provide the equipment. No emoji's can't cover that. Nice try at deflection though.

We? I don't represent ZPMC nor does China. If a profit driven company does not want to sell to you and in the process end up burning your hundred over mil USD$ investment, I am more than happy. Hey seeing you waste your money instead of using it on your people who is starving and thirsty, makes me even more happy.

Btw, brave Indian, you still haven't answered my question. do you dare buy a single drop of Iranian oil? . Indians only know how to talk, infront of US, you just bend over. I heard Modi gave some ghee to Trump. =)

 

[Chhatrapati]

We? I don't represent ZPMC nor does China. If a profit driven company does not want to sell to you and in the process end up burning your hundred over mil USD$ investment, I am more than happy. Hey seeing you waste your money instead of using it on your people who is starving and thirsty, makes me even more happy.

Btw, brave Indian, you still haven't answered my question. do you dare buy a single drop of Iranian oil?

Chinese companies are scared of US sanctions and hence didn't want to sell equipment to Iran. Mind you, the port is not Indian, it is an Iranian port with BOT by Indian firm. The US killed ZTE just because they tried to circumvent US sanctions on Iran. Now it's Huawei, who soon be killed. Now yeah, Chinese don't want their companies to be killed off by US so, they oblige to whatever conditions put by US.

 

[Han Patriot]

Chinese companies are scared of US sanctions and hence didn't want to sell equipment to Iran. Mind you, the port is not Indian, it is an Iranian port with BOT by Indian firm. The US killed ZTE just because they tried to circumvent US sanctions on Iran. Now it's Huawei, who soon be killed. Now yeah, Chinese don't want their companies to be killed off by US so, they oblige to whatever conditions put by US.

BOT or not, you dump in a hundred plus million USD$ and due to us being 'scared', the investment is now down th drain. US killed ZTE? Companies which are technologically weak willjust give in and reap the rewards of complying to US sanctions. Huawei did not give in because they are technologically strong.

ZTE RECORDS A NET PROFIT OF 863 MILLION YUAN ($128 MILLION) IN Q1 2019
https://www.gizchina.com/2019/04/29...t-of-863-million-yuan-128-million-in-q1-2019/

It's just a simple equation, if you can withstand, you fight, else you give in and enjoy the US market. ZPMC earns hundreds of million from US ports. Why should they give up this market because of an Indian project?

If we are obliged to US, why are we still buying Iranian oil and why didn't we give in to the trade war? India on the other hand, bended over as soon as Trump instructed it. YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWER ME, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA BUY IRANIAN OIL? You just talk talk talk , but in the end, you are just one coward.

 

[Chhatrapati]

BOT or not, you dump in a hundred plus million USD$ and due to us being 'scared', the investment is now down th drain. US killed ZTE? Companies which are technologically weak willjust give in and reap the rewards of complying to US sanctions. Huawei did not give in because they are technologically strong.

ZTE RECORDS A NET PROFIT OF 863 MILLION YUAN ($128 MILLION) IN Q1 2019
https://www.gizchina.com/2019/04/29...t-of-863-million-yuan-128-million-in-q1-2019/

It's just a simple equation, if you can withstand, you fight, else you give in and enjoy the US market. ZPMC earns hundreds of million from US ports. Why should they give up this market because of an Indian project?

If we are obliged to US, why are we still buying Iranian oil and why didn't we give in to the trade war? India on the other hand, bended over as soon as Trump instructed it. YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWER ME, WHEN ARE YOU GONNA BUY IRANIAN OIL? You just talk talk talk , but in the end, you are just one coward.

How it is down the drain, a delay in completion doesn't make the investment go away. It's a long term investment and it is being adjusted to changing condition which offset the loss. But the fact remains, Chinese CEOs don't want to be the next Huawei CFO. Looking at how pathetic CCP is squealing and nobody seams to care pretty much explains it.

LOL at ZTE, who lost billions of dollar and is still making a net loss. Is somehow profitable, probably they sold some intellectual properties that caused few inflows they even have a company for selling or monetizing the patents or like Chinese govt, their datas are dubious. They don't sell telecom equipment in large markets anymore.

 

[salarsikander]

but the core technology is still there

Which is not Chinese, to begin with, Sadly, I am in no way doubting the capacity you guys have accumulated over the number of years but the core tech is missing from China that literally was going to force Hwevi to come to its knees

 

[Han Patriot]

How it is down the drain, a delay in completion doesn't make the investment go away. It's a long term investment and it is being adjusted to changing condition which offset the loss. But the fact remains, Chinese CEOs don't want to be the next Huawei CFO. Looking at how pathetic CCP is squealing and nobody seams to care pretty much explains it.

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Delay? Delay for 10 years? 20 years? Or delay till Iran is in a war? . You know how much in interest you are losing just by a 'delay'? Do you know how many hungry and thirsty can be fed with 100mil? Of course Chinese companies don't want to be the next Huawei, but that doesn't mean Huawei cannot defend their interest. You have the backing of the world's largest consumer market, technology and finance. Look at how desperate trump is getting, calling us before the G20s for a meetup. Squealing? How are we squealing when we fought back in a trade war and defied the sanctions? Modi is moaning now after bending over. Thanks to the ghee, it is pleasurable. . The loudest cowardice poodle trying to lecture an independent sovereign nation?
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LOL at ZTE, who lost billions of dollar and is still making a net loss. Is somehow profitable, probably they sold some intellectual properties that caused few inflows they even have a company for selling or monetizing the patents or like Chinese govt, their datas are dubious. They don't sell telecom equipment in large markets anymore.

If you only cared to read, it is Q1 2019 not 2018. 2018 ZTE got fined, of course they are gonna lose money. But by complying, they are profiting again. ZTE sold intellectual property? They don't have much to begin with unlike Huawei, who did they sold to, for how much? Gosh....you can create something from your bottom orifice in a jiff...amazing indian talent. They had never sold equipment in US for years, SEA and Middle East is not a large market? Europe? Do you know who they sold to in Europe recently? India?

Which is not Chinese, to begin with, Sadly, I am in no way doubting the capacity you guys have accumulated over the number of years but the core tech is missing from China that literally was going to force Hwevi to come to its knees

First, you need to understand what is 'core technology' From my observation, you are not from engineering background. The core technology are not QUALCOMM nor Intel chips which can be sourced from others, it's the communications technology. It's like saying the engine is not core technology because on of their avionics is using MMX chip. Do you know how complicated these machines are? Ever wonder why US still need to pay Huawei for the patents used? That is 'core technology'. Intel chips are just 'enabling technology'. Why do you think they are only 3 major 5G vendors on earth?

 

[Chhatrapati]

Delay? Delay for 10 years? 20 years? Or delay till Iran is in a war? . You know how much in interest you are losing just by a 'delay'? Do you know how many hungry and thirsty slumdogs can be fed with 100mil? Of course Chinese companies don't want to be the next Huawei, but that doesn't mean Huawei cannot defend their interest. You have the backing of the world's largest consumer market, technology and finance. Look at how desperate trump is getting, calling us before the G20s for a meetup. Squealing? How are we squealing when we fought back in a trade war and defied the sanctions? Modi is moaning now after bending over. Thanks to the ghee, it is pleasurable. . The loudest cowardice poodle trying to lecture an independent sovereign nation?
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If you only cared to read, it is Q1 2019 not 2018. 2018 ZTE got fined, of course they are gonna lose money. But by complying, they are profiting again. ZTE sold intellectual property? They don't have much to begin with unlike Huawei, who did they sold to, for how much? Gosh....you can create something from your bottom orifice in a jiff...amazing indian talent. They had never sold equipment in US for years, SEA and Middle East is not a large market? Europe? Do you know who they sold to in Europe recently? India?


First, you need to understand what is 'core technology' From my observation, you are not from engineering background. The core technology are not QUALCOMM nor Intel chips which can be sourced from others, it's the communications technology. It's like saying the engine is not core technology because on of their avionics is using MMX chip. Do you know how complicated these machines are? Ever wonder why US still need to pay Huawei for the patents used? That is 'core technology'. Intel chips are just 'enabling technology'. Why do you think they are only 3 major 5G vendors on earth?

an essay to create a BS is a nice try. It's way past it's time. You can substantiate whatever I say, through a simple google search. The fact remains that Chinese companies Chickened out in fear of
US sanctions. We are hoping you would send those equipment so that we can begin our work. Don't be scared now, show that stronk China feelz.

 

[Han Patriot]

an essay to create a BS is a nice try. It's way past it's time. You can substantiate whatever I say, through a simple google search. The fact remains that Chinese companies Chickened out in fear of
US sanctions. We are hoping you would send those equipment so that we can begin our work. Don't be scared now, show that stronk China feelz.

There are at least a 1 mil+ Chinese companies. So which one chickened out? ZTE. Did Huawei chicken out? No. There is one China and one India, who chickened out? Only I N D I A. Hoping us to send equipment? You can be on your knees and beg us, we would still say no. You can try asking the Europeans. This is what happens to technologically inferior countries, they need to buy from us and be at our mercy.

I am still waiting for you to buy that ONE drop of Iranian oil my dear American poodle.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Delay? Delay for 10 years? 20 years? Or delay till Iran is in a war? . You know how much in interest you are losing just by a 'delay'? Do you know how many hungry and thirsty slumdogs can be fed with 100mil? Of course Chinese companies don't want to be the next Huawei, but that doesn't mean Huawei cannot defend their interest. You have the backing of the world's largest consumer market, technology and finance. Look at how desperate trump is getting, calling us before the G20s for a meetup. Squealing? How are we squealing when we fought back in a trade war and defied the sanctions? Modi is moaning now after bending over. Thanks to the ghee, it is pleasurable. . The loudest cowardice poodle trying to lecture an independent sovereign nation?

You are very brutal, my friend.

No mercy.

 

[d00od00o]

Isn't the answer obvious? Indians can't build infrastructure even if their lives depend on it. Just look at India's decrepit and dilapidated ports, roads, electrical grids, railways. What made Iranians think India can deliver is truly beyond me.