Why does Vietnam love America but hates China?

[senheiser]

U.S tried to stop the NVA invasion.
imagine if the U.S and South Vietnam had won. Vietnam would be in the same class of Japan,South Korea, and Taiwan economically today.

or like Philippines, daahhhh

 

[sweetgrape]

you blame us for your pollution? i guess that's partially true, but no one is forcing China to pollute it's air,land, and water.

And no one fore Nixon build relation with China, also no one force you come to China, don't seem China and Chinese owe something to you.

Everybody loves US and hates china, so why just single out vietnam ?

Yeah, IS,Al qaeda, many other terrorist love US too.

TO counter useless PLA, we only need women militia and border guard just like in 1979. A strong Sub-Mekong is for countering all kind of threat including the risk of war against mighty US.

corrupted PLA is still so cheap, no one care abt a so called 'threat' from them.

Hehe, good dogsh!t from your mouth as usual!

 

[VALKRYIE]

I think Vietnam issue with China is related to South China Sea issue because many Islands under Vietnam Control are claimed by China as theres and this is the whole thing going on here. Chinese needs to built Stronger Relations with ASEAN Countries like Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore as well to gain a suitable leverage on their South China Sea issue. Thailand and China Relations are already good so that relations need to expand as well.

Asia is a sprawling continent with a long, contentious history. The region is dotted with territorial disputes, many deeply rooted in the past. As these frictions have waxed and waned, public sentiment has ebbed and flowed. One time allies have become enemies and vice versa. Alliances have come and gone.

China is viewed throughout the region both with favor as a nation and with concern about its territorial ambitions. Japan is also quite popular, at least outside of northeast Asia. And its leader, Shinzo Abe, inspires confidence in his handling of world affairs in many Asian countries, at least among those who have heard of him.

The poll shows Asians with quite disparate opinions about each other. Half or more in seven of 10 Asian countries surveyed express a favorable view of Japan, while majorities in six of 10 say this about China. Opinions about India vary considerably, ranging from 70% positive in Bangladesh to 13% in Pakistan. Fellow Asians take a fairly critical perspective on Pakistan – there is no country other than Indonesia in which a clear plurality gives Pakistan a positive rating. This includes China, where only 30% have a favorable opinion of Islamabad, a major Beijing ally. Meanwhile, Pakistan is the only Asian nation polled in which less than half see the United States favorably.

There are few fans of China in either Japan (7% favorable view of China) or in Vietnam (16%), where recent territorial disputes have rekindled old animosities. At the same time, just 8% of Chinese like Japan, a distaste that also has its roots in history. And there is no love lost in India for Pakistan; only 15% of Indians voice a positive opinion of Islamabad.

China’s strongest supporters are Pakistanis (78%) and Bangladeshis (77%). India gets its most favorable ratings from Bangladeshis (70%) and Vietnamese (67%). Japan’s highest favorability is among Thais (81%) and Filipinos (80%). Pakistan’s best friends are Indonesians (52%) and Bangladeshis (50%), fellow Muslim-majority countries.

Of the four Asian nations asked about, Americans are most favorable toward Japan (70%) and India (55%). Only 35% in the U.S. have a positive view of China and even less see Pakistan (18%) in a favorable light.

Whatever feelings Asians harbor about each other, most are likely to view the United States as the country they can rely on as a dependable ally in the future. Publics in eight of 11 Asian nations surveyed – including South Korea (68%)Japan (62%) and India (33%) – pick Uncle Sam as their number one international partner. In Vietnam, where America fought a prolonged war in the 1960s and 70s, Washington is now at the top of the list of reliable allies (30%). Notably, Malaysians (27%) and Pakistanis (57%) name Beijing most often as their foremost ally. And the Chinese (25%) view Russia as their most trusted partner.

The Asian public’s threat perception is more diffuse. Pakistanis (38%), Chinese (36%), Malaysians (26%) and Indonesians (25%) see the U.S. as the greatest danger to their nation (although the Indonesians also cite Washington as their strongest ally). Vietnamese (74%), Japanese (68%) and Filipinos (58%) view China as a threat. South Koreans (36%) voice such concern about North Korea. Bangladeshis (27%) are wary of India. Indians (45%), for their part, do not trust Pakistan.

Asians’ concerns about China reflect the fact that, as Asia’s largest economic and military power sitting at the center of the region, Beijing has territorial disputes with many of its neighbors. There is widespread concern among publics in East, Southeast and South Asia that these frictions could lead to military conflict. And that apprehension is shared by many Americans.

China’s territorial rows stretch around much of its periphery. The most prominent of these is with longtime adversary Japan, over what Tokyo calls the Senkaku Islands and Beijing terms the Diaoyu Islands, small uninhabited islands in the East China Sea. In addition, the Philippines and China are embroiled in a standoff over the Scarborough Shoal in the South China Sea. Vietnam disputes China’s oil drilling off the Paracel Islands off Vietnam’s coast. And Beijing claims that the northeastern Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh, which the two nations battled over in the 1962 Sino-Indian war, actually belongs to China.

In a 2013 Pew Research survey, strong majorities in the Philippines (90%), Japan (82%), South Korea (77%) and Indonesia (62%) said that territorial disputes with China were a big problem for their country. And nearly all Japanese (96%) and South Koreans (91%), and a majority of Filipinos (68%), thought China’s expanding military capabilities were bad for their country.

In the 2014 Pew Research poll, majorities in eight of the 11 Asian countries surveyed are worried that China’s territorial ambitions could lead to military conflict with its neighbors. In a number of the nations closest to China, overwhelming proportions of the public expressed such fears, including 93% of Filipinos, 85% of Japanese, 84% of Vietnamese and 83% of South Koreans. Moreover, 61% of the public in the Philippines and 51% in Vietnam say they are very concerned about a possible military confrontation with Beijing. And, in China itself, fully 62% are concerned about a possible conflict.

Less troubled about a possible conflict are the Indonesians (52%) and the Thais (50%). Neither nation shares a border with China. Pakistanis (49%), who have an overwhelmingly favorable view of China and close economic and strategic ties with Beijing, also express less concern that China’s ambitions could lead to war. But Pakistanis are also the most likely among those surveyed to express no opinion on potential border clashes with China (33% offer no opinion).

Americans watch all this Asian regional territorial tension with a wary eye. The United States has a long-standing security alliance with Japan, a new military pact with the Philippines, a budding economic relationship with Vietnam and a long-term interest in improving strategic ties with India. With such equities in Asian stability, two-thirds of Americans (67%) are concerned that territorial disputes with China’s neighbors could lead to military conflict.

China has more enemies then allies. China true allies in asia are Pakistan, North Korea & Cambodia. Others include Bangladesh and Malaysia. Thailand & Indonesia see Vietnam as a regional competitor and a threat and will ally with China to weaken Vietnam.

Thailand and The Phillipines are no richer than Vietnam despite remaining in the US sphere of influence.

Thailand & the Philippines have a pseudo/ partial democracy with a corrupt government limiting their future potential as a result are stagnating in economic growth.

They are slightly, but they do exemplify the hypothetical ceiling for an independent South Vietnam's development. It's not so easy to emulate the success of Confucian states like Japan, S. Korea and Taiwan, with their strong emphasis on work ethic, discipline, and order.

Vietnam is highly confucius as well. Their people rank at the top for math & science exceeding OECD countries matching their east asian counterpart.

Becos vietnamese still live in delusion that China is still the same old backward China in the 70s..

One thing very bad about very fast progression of economy and technology like China compare to the slow advancement of western nation is that it's too fast for your past foes to accept your fast rising superiority.

Japan used to behave like Vietnam in 2011 when China overtake Japan economy. But Japan behavioour starts to change the better after Abe massive failure in 2014 economy revival becos of lacking of China economy engagement. They do realize to achieve real growth, they need China.

Something vietnamese hard for them to swallow and yet to learn.

China success is due to reverse engineering of transfer technology creating carbon copies of product's. The country would be nothing without investments from the West and from richer neighbors like Taiwan, Japan, South Korea and Singapore. The world could just boycott and impose an embargo to weaken China.

or like Philippines, daahhhh

It can't even defends it's own water and needs the US to solve its own affairs.

 

[Beast]

China success is due to reverse engineering of transfer technology creating carbon copies of product's. The country would be nothing without investments from the West and from richer neighbors like Taiwan, Japan, South Korea and Singapore. The world could just boycott and impose an embargo to weaken China.

Typical bashing without using your tiny brain. US and Russia when developing their economy after WWII extensive using German scientist to build their rockets and aircraft industries. Now we got one expert claiming that is wrong?

Yes yes, our technology is only pure 1:1 copy and no input from Chinese. May I know how come China fastest computer is faster than US one since it shall be a 1:1 copy. It shall be the same speed, by your logic how can Chinese one be faster than US one? Maybe your tiny brain can explain much more?

Tianhe-2 Continues Reign As World’s Best Supercomputer - IEEE Spectrum

 

[TaiShang]

Idiotic question that falls in the trap of generalization.

Who can securely say one country hates/loves another country.

And who is a country? A government? Business interests? People?

Country A's people/business/government hate country B's people/business/government?

How can you really tell?

"By one country hates/loves another country," I like to understand first intergovernmental relations, then, inter-business relations, and lastly, inter-people relations. People mean the least because foreign policy is largely made with little heed to what the people might think or feel. US people were overwhelmingly against the Second Iraq War. But it did happen. Only body bags coming in great numbers stopped the Vietnam War, not some hippies getting drunk and painting their Volkswagen into pink.

In terms of intergovernmental relations, two sides are in fact communicating not so bad. At least, the relations never go down to the levels between Beijing and Tokyo up until the recent rapprochement.

In terms of business-relations, the bilateral trade is only increasing.

In terms of people-to-people relations, well, the flow of people that is often undocumented is probably much higher than the flow that is registered.

Yes, they attacked and killed Chinese (and other) businesses last year. But, I am not sure that was out of pure nationalism or the situation was further aggravated because of poverty and ignorance.

 

[jhungary]

The Americans created the internet.

Enough said.

lol.

in fact, they should name me techonlogy that was not coming from The US, that way is easier to count then to name technology that was make in the US

 

[Keel]

@ some knowledgeable Chinese members here on board:

Who invented optic fibre?
How far are we leading in quantum communication, teleportation and thorium research?
Enough said

 

[jhungary]

@ some knowledgeable Chinese members here on board:

Who invented optic fibre?
How far are we leading in quantum communication, teleportation and thorium research?
Enough said

the question you should ask is

What is the current Nationality for that person who invented Optic Fibre.

The answer is British American

and who tell you China is leading Quantum Communication field and Thori7m field? CCTV lol?

Do you even know how far is china on quantum communication is and xo you even know where the world are in this field? Just because you say so does not equal to being the truth ...

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

I was surprised that the Vietnamese would be more forgiving to the Americans than the Chinese who have similar culture considering what they did to them like the million deaths, agent orange and destruction resulting in a war torn nation.

Not exactly "love" or "hate", but "favorable views" or "unfavorable views"...


That is true in Vietnam today.

 

[Viet]

as I said previously 100 times already elsewhere, the people of vietnam have no problem with chinese and china in general, but their arrogance and aggression. and of course their bullying mentality. chinese should really seek medical and mental help.

vietnam and china could be best friends, neighbors on earth. sad that won´t happen any time soon.

 

[Keel]

as I said previously 100 times already elsewhere, the people of vietnam have no problem with chinese and china in general, but their arrogance and aggression. and of course their bullying mentality. chinese should really seek medical and mental help.

vietnam and china could be best friends, neighbors on earth. sad that won´t happen any time soon.

we dont have a problem with vietnamese in general either
it is the"viet-flagged" members who constantly raise the insults
we are not arrogant
Vast majority of our postings are intitiated for reporting the development of China in science tech medicine commerce cities livelihood political systems etc
And when we have the above reports posted, we are delivering them confidently
The land reclamations in SCS are developing on our own territories
Check out for arrogance in other country which brags but cant deliver, always

Fine handcrafted Chinese porcelain teapot

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

as I said previously 100 times already elsewhere, the people of vietnam have no problem with chinese and china in general, but their arrogance and aggression. and of course their bullying mentality. chinese should really seek medical and mental help.

vietnam and china could be best friends, neighbors on earth. sad that won´t happen any time soon.

how a sheep and a wolf become best friends?

 

[TheTruth]

as I said previously 100 times already elsewhere, the people of vietnam have no problem with chinese and china in general, but their arrogance and aggression. and of course their bullying mentality. chinese should really seek medical and mental help.

vietnam and china could be best friends, neighbors on earth. sad that won´t happen any time soon.

Why do you think Cambodia, Laos, Champa people and your own ethnic minorities see Vietnam as a bully who has tormented them for hundreds of years? China has only ever lost its temper with the Vietnamese when they insisted on conquering and enslaving those people. Nothing else.

how a sheep and a wolf become best friends?

Why not ask the rabbits, little birds, foxes, and house-cats who are living peacefully with the "wolf" for thousands of years?

If you're the sheep, what does that make Cambodia, Laos, Ryukyu, Tajiks, Taiwanese aborigines?

 

[Jlaw]

Idiotic question that falls in the trap of generalization.

Who can securely say one country hates/loves another country.

And who is a country? A government? Business interests? People?

Country A's people/business/government hate country B's people/business/government?

How can you really tell?

"By one country hates/loves another country," I like to understand first intergovernmental relations, then, inter-business relations, and lastly, inter-people relations. People mean the least because foreign policy is largely made with little heed to what the people might think or feel. US people were overwhelmingly against the Second Iraq War. But it did happen. Only body bags coming in great numbers stopped the Vietnam War, not some hippies getting drunk and painting their Volkswagen into pink.

In terms of intergovernmental relations, two sides are in fact communicating not so bad. At least, the relations never go down to the levels between Beijing and Tokyo up until the recent rapprochement.

In terms of business-relations, the bilateral trade is only increasing.

In terms of people-to-people relations, well, the flow of people that is often undocumented is probably much higher than the flow that is registered.

Yes, they attacked and killed Chinese (and other) businesses last year. But, I am not sure that was out of pure nationalism or the situation was further aggravated because of poverty and ignorance.

The world hate China so much but we still get over 100 b year in fdi. China hadvthe second most tourists In 2014. These Viets hate us so much that thousands of illegal viets try to sneak into China.
Yeah the world hate us, lol.

how a sheep and a wolf become best friends?

Vietnam is a snake nit a sheep. your politicians look like and act like car salesman.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

the question you should ask is

What is the current Nationality for that person who invented Optic Fibre.

The answer is British American

and who tell you China is leading Quantum Communication field and Thori7m field? CCTV lol?

Do you even know how far is china on quantum communication is and xo you even know where the world are in this field? Just because you say so does not equal to being the truth ...

I note you like talking big. Nobody likes ppl who talk big. Just because you say it doesn't mean it is true. You don't even know what quantum communication is lol.