Why do Bangladeshis loath India?

[Hellfire2006]

The weaknesses are elsewhere, not in the comparison of absolute numbers that you have put up.

The seven RAPIDs and the three armoured divisions were earlier concentrated on the western frontier. There has been a re-alignment since the latest amount of friction with the PLA, but it will take the dust a little time to settle down.

In effect, there are no formations available to engage with Bangladeshi military formations.

What was the case earlier and continues today is that there are very, very few formations facing Bangladesh. Their infantry units are lightly armed, but are most suitable for their terrain. Their armoured formations will undergo modernisation soon, as at present, the equipment is nearly obsolete.

It is highly unlikely that Bangladesh will have to defend herself against India, and her levels of equipment and air and sea forces reflect that underlying reality.

On the other hand, she has enough to guard her borders with Myanmar Rakhine and Chin; the rest of Chin, and some part of Sagaing and another small part of Kachin adjoin Mizoram, Manipur, Nagaland and even Arunachal Pradesh (near Walong).

It is quite possible to prepare for hostilities with Bangladesh, but why India should do so is not at all clear.

Thanks for the insight sir , indeed it's not wise to compare ourselves with BD on the basis of absolute numbers since it's Highly unlikely that we'll be able to use significant force levels against them at any given time due to our commitments along our troubled frontiers. All I wanted to do was to reply to a nasty bunch of people here who feel that BD can pull off a military invasion of Assam once the demographics start favoring them. There is absolutely no point in fighting them given that our strategic interests do align quite often. The only threat which remains is the emergence of radicalism and jammat centric Islamism in Bangladesh.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Thanks for the insight sir , indeed it's not wise to compare ourselves with BD on the basis of absolute numbers since it's Highly unlikely that we'll be able to use significant force levels against them at any given time due to our commitments along our troubled frontiers. All I wanted to do was to reply to a nasty bunch of people here who feel that BD can pull off a military invasion of Assam once the demographics start favoring them. There is absolutely no point in fighting them given that our strategic interests do align quite often. The only threat which remains is the emergence of radicalism and jammat centric Islamism in Bangladesh.

Totally agree, 100%, with your views.

 

[karmaa]

Thanks for the insight sir , indeed it's not wise to compare ourselves with BD on the basis of absolute numbers since it's Highly unlikely that we'll be able to use significant force levels against them at any given time due to our commitments along our troubled frontiers. All I wanted to do was to reply to a nasty bunch of people here who feel that BD can pull off a military invasion of Assam once the demographics start favoring them. There is absolutely no point in fighting them given that our strategic interests do align quite often. The only threat which remains is the emergence of radicalism and jammat centric Islamism in Bangladesh.

We need another term of mata ji shekh hasina govt for peace , progress and overall benefit of both countries .

 

[saif]

We need another term of mata ji shekh hasina govt for peace , progress and overall benefit of both countries .

Your support for a particular political party in Bangladesh is a direct threat to our democracy and sovereignty.

 

[Vikramaditya-I]

Then stop sh!ting on threads!

You are the one venting at India like a bunch of losers.

There is no fu.cking illegal Bangladeshi migrants in India, as your country isn't really a land of milk and honey that some of you claim! Bollywood isn't the real picture of India, whole India is piss poor country!

However if you really find any illegal Bangladeshi, send them back with evidences! And if you don't have evidence , dump them into sea!

Then who are these cockroaches? ​

Bangladeshi national arrested in Tripura after entering India illegally​

Tripura: 10 Bangladeshi migrants arrested from Agartala railway station

35 Bangladeshi nationals arrested in Malappuram​

Indeed it's a matter! If your govt will keep supporting the pigs in power and keep distabilizing Bangladesh using raw moles , consequences will be worse than ever! I hope you already read the current article of Indian times and that was a warning to your govt! Now do your math!

Consequences like what? Am I gonna get the wrong size chaddi?
You couldn't raise a finger against West Pakistan and ran en masse across to India to save your ***.

I'm not sure if you are so naive or just pretending! But probably you know that all countries have their own dirty jobs and your country do it too!

However if you are a common citizen,you are not likely to know! Still if you have some grey matter inside your head , you should realize it!

Yeah sure, India is interfering, India must be mind-controlling Bangladeshis to vote Haseena. RAAA is behind it.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Why are you asking an obvious question?

Even if you take Islam and Muslims out of the equation, and focus solely on Secular Bengali ethnicism - at what point in the history of Bengal were Bengalis ever buddies with those on the West? Many secular and/or Hindu Bangladeshis are vocal against India.

It's only Indian dalals that suck up to these Hindutva retards.

It's not historical relations that are too significant in this matter...
...it's simply a case of Bangladesh and India not seeing eye to eye on certain issues. Of course each party prioritizing their own self interests. Things like water(rivers, dams, and oceanic boundaries)...in addition there are geographic things like Bangladesh positioned in a way where India ends up having just a small sliver of a corridor to connect to it's eastern most region. In case of war(for example with China)...India would ideally like to just roll through Bangladesh if China seizes strategic control of the chicken's neck or if not by land then through BD waters...for quick reinforcements, supply line, etc.

India being the bigger(and therefore more powerful country) would want BD to bend to its will(as it goes with all countries)..and BD wouldn't just simply sit down and take it.

Then of course there's religion(all the religious hatred that plays into it too).

The whole India helped BD in 1971 will only go so far to try and create some semblance of an alliance. In reality there are many reasons why the road of this alliance would diverge.

 

[Joe Shearer]

It's not historical relations that are too significant in this matter...
...it's simply a case of Bangladesh and India not seeing eye to eye on certain issues. Of course each party prioritizing their own self interests. Things like water(rivers, dams, and oceanic boundaries)...in addition there are geographic things like Bangladesh positioned in a way where India ends up having just a small sliver of a corridor to connect to it's eastern most region. In case of war(for example with China)...India would ideally like to just roll through Bangladesh if China seizes strategic control of the chicken's neck or if not by land then through BD waters...for quick reinforcements, supply line, etc.

India being the bigger(and therefore more powerful country) would want BD to bend to its will(as it goes with all countries)..and BD wouldn't just simply sit down and take it.

Then of course there's religion(all the religious hatred that plays into it too).

The whole India helped BD in 1971 will only go so far to try and create some semblance of an alliance. In reality there are many reasons why the road of this alliance would diverge.

It is likely to be a mix of these, historical relations that spring from social and political factors as well as the clash of current interests. The Bengal region has never been comfortable with the spasmodic domination of power centres in the Ganges Delta, and whenever the chance offered itself, broke away. This is a dominating theme in the history of Bengal.

Today there is also the friction due to land and water resources. Here there are major misunderstandings, because of singularly naive perceptions on both sides. As far as water resources are concerned, Bangladesh is concerned about the free flow of upstream riparine waters that come in from India, essentially the Brahmaputra, the Teesta and the Ganges. There has never been difficulty with regard to the Brahmaputra, but that is not to say that there may not be difficulties at some future date. The other two require a separate, detailed note.

 

[saif]

You couldn't raise a finger against West Pakistan and ran en masse across to India to save your ***.

You are giving misleading information about our liberation war. Are you not aware of our Mukti bahini who fought valiantly against much superior Pakistani army for 9 months? India militarily intervened in December 1971 whereas our Mukti Bahini began its military operation against the Pakistani army in March 1971 and continued its operation until December. Those people who fled to India are Am Janta and the majority of which was Hindu.

 

[my2cents]

I still remember it being a 50:50 affair.

Evenly split along BNP and BAL lines.

But even BAL party workers now openly loath India.

This despite BAL propaganda and promotion of all things Indian.

Pre social media - it was easy for states to brainwash people.

But now states do not have a monopoly on propaganda and brainwashing.

Bangladeshi people cannot ignore the vile filth spread by Indians - in a coordinated and calculated way.

It is so pervasive - only the brain dead Bangladeshi can have a positive view of India.

Indians obviously care what Bangladeshis think about them!

Otherwise why the whining and crying on social media?

Question is are Indians prepared to do anything about it - other than just crying and whining on social media!

Bangladesh is now firmly in the Chinese orbit - probably more so than Pakistan.

Hasina will rule for a maximum of 5 years and most likely even less.

Future governments will have to heed the demands of the people regarding India.

Kick out Hasina, if she is that bad. You will have your cake and eat it too. But you guys don't do nothing about it. You only know to blame India.

 

[VikingRaider]

Then who are these cockroaches? ​

Bangladeshi national arrested in Tripura after entering India illegally​

Tripura: 10 Bangladeshi migrants arrested from Agartala railway station

35 Bangladeshi nationals arrested in Malappuram​

I thought they are 4 crore! However send them back with Bangladeshi NID!

Consequences like what? Am I gonna get the wrong size chaddi?
You couldn't raise a finger against West Pakistan and ran en masse across to India to save your ***.

Nonsense! Do you think India is invincible? First control your separatists! Don't push opposition of Hasina in Bangladesh to the corner! If you do so , extremism might rise, and you can't control them! You know extremists will always support Indian separatists! Will it be a good choice to create threat in Eastern border?

Yeah sure, India is interfering, India must be mind-controlling Bangladeshis to vote Haseena. RAAA is behind it.

What is vote and election by the way? Sorry I forget it long ago! Could you please explain it to me and to other Bangladeshi people?

 

[Vikramaditya-I]

You are giving misleading information about our liberation war. Are you not aware of our Mukti bahini who fought valiantly against much superior Pakistani army for 9 months? India militarily intervened in December 1971 whereas our Mukti Bahini began its military operation against the Pakistani army in March 1971 and continued its operation until December. Those people who fled to India are Am Janta and the majority of which was Hindu.

Yeah, Mukti Bahini really won independence for you. In today's terms, Mukti Bahini was nothing but a terror organization sponsored by R&AW and the Soviets, those were some good times. Made it easier for us to do a number on Pakistan and solve our 'geography problem'. But yeah, they are your heroes so I'm not gonna deride them, especially when my country was involved with it.

I thought they are 4 crore! However send them back with Bangladeshi NID!

These are the ones getting caught surviving the firing squad of BSF I guess. Why should there be even one Bangladeshi illegal in India when you claim your land is better compared to India?

Nonsense! Do you think India is invincible? First control your separatists! Don't push opposition of Hasina in Bangladesh to the corner! If you do so , extremism might rise, and you can't control them! You know extremists will always support Indian separatists! Will it be a good choice to create threat in Eastern border?

We have been fighting separatists for a long time. Those who sponsor militants have been drowning in 'certain issues'. Do you, an Islamic state, want to join their ranks or keep stitching clothes and make a living peacefully? It's your choice. We are not worried about thorns in our path.

 

[VikingRaider]

We have been fighting separatists for a long time. Those who sponsor militants have been drowning in 'certain issues'. Do you, an Islamic state, want to join their ranks or keep stitching clothes and make a living peacefully? It's your ch

First feed your hungry mouths instead of making NUKE! It's not Mahabharata era , and no incarnation will come to save you from new age Karna!

Remember in Mahabharata Krishna , Arjuna and rudra ( as Hanuman) made an axis to stop Karna?

Those mythological days are long gone,time to wake up!

Yeah, Mukti Bahini really won independence for you. In today's terms, Mukti Bahini was nothing but a terror organization sponsored by R&AW and the Soviets, those were some good times. Made it easier for us to do a number on Pakistan and solve our 'geography problem'. But yeah, they are your heroes so I'm not gonna deride them, especially when my country was involved with it.

Hindustani Pakistani bhai bhai in this theory!

 

[Vikramaditya-I]

First feed your hungry mouths instead of making NUKE! It's not Mahabharata era , and no incarnation will come to save you from new age Karna!

Remember in Mahabharata Krishna , Arjuna and rudra ( as Hanuman) made an axis to stop Karna?

Those mythological days are long gone,time to wake up!

We do actually live in reality, unlike emotional fools of Bangla land. lel trying to be passive-aggressive about sponsoring militants.

Hindustani Pakistani bhai bhai in this theory!

Lol! Us? You should've tried to be bhai bhai back in the day, then this mess wouldn't have happened. And we could've felt less guilty about gunning you down when you pole-vaulted.

 

[Bilal9]

It is likely to be a mix of these, historical relations that spring from social and political factors as well as the clash of current interests. The Bengal region has never been comfortable with the spasmodic domination of power centres in the Ganges Delta, and whenever the chance offered itself, broke away. This is a dominating theme in the history of Bengal.

Today there is also the friction due to land and water resources. Here there are major misunderstandings, because of singularly naive perceptions on both sides. As far as water resources are concerned, Bangladesh is concerned about the free flow of upstream riparine waters that come in from India, essentially the Brahmaputra, the Teesta and the Ganges. There has never been difficulty with regard to the Brahmaputra, but that is not to say that there may not be difficulties at some future date. The other two require a separate, detailed note.

Dada - if I can humbly interject.

There are bigger issues other than water sharing (started during Ganges/Farakka and continuing with Teesta today) between our countries.

India officially exports $14 Billion yearly to our side and we export only $2 Billion to India. This is due only because of Indian non-tariff barriers under flimsy pretexts. Also - our medical tourists spend over $16 Billion yearly in India.

Clearly the trade relation cannot be called even-keeled. Things need re-balancing, otherwise relationships are bound to get affected.

The people who loath India get ammunition from these facts (and by things like border killings of Bangladeshi citizens).

This loathing was seen most recently with a minor section of the population rejoicing at India losing to Australia - eliciting some tough words by Indian politicians like Shubhendu Adhikari. I know he's a minor BJP player but he does have a following in WB.

 

[leonblack08]

It's not historical relations that are too significant in this matter...
...it's simply a case of Bangladesh and India not seeing eye to eye on certain issues. Of course each party prioritizing their own self interests. Things like water(rivers, dams, and oceanic boundaries)...in addition there are geographic things like Bangladesh positioned in a way where India ends up having just a small sliver of a corridor to connect to it's eastern most region. In case of war(for example with China)...India would ideally like to just roll through Bangladesh if China seizes strategic control of the chicken's neck or if not by land then through BD waters...for quick reinforcements, supply line, etc.

India being the bigger(and therefore more powerful country) would want BD to bend to its will(as it goes with all countries)..and BD wouldn't just simply sit down and take it.

Then of course there's religion(all the religious hatred that plays into it too).

The whole India helped BD in 1971 will only go so far to try and create some semblance of an alliance. In reality there are many reasons why the road of this alliance would diverge.

Of course it has to do a lot with everything India has been doing since 1971. Water, land, border killing, funding separatists in Bangladesh in the 80s and overall big brother attitude to subdue and interfere in our internal matters.

But I went even further back to show that it isn't only about these grievances and "Islamist" mindset that is the cause of disliking India, as Indians often claim it to be. It's not that straightforward.

People in Bengal in general has never trusted those in the West. Heck there is even a lullaby in Bengali antagonizing the marathas. This lullaby is used in both parts of Bengal even to date.

The story behind the lullaby: Maratha invasions in Bengal

There’s a very beloved and widespread lullaby in Bengal, which mothers used to sing to make their babies fall asleep. Although it sounds like any other bedtime song, it has...

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Although political landscape has changed in Indian Bengal in recent times with many subscribing to the BJP Hindutva supremacy ideology, but there are still plenty of Indian Bengalis who still harbor the distrust of non-Bengalis.

It is likely to be a mix of these, historical relations that spring from social and political factors as well as the clash of current interests. The Bengal region has never been comfortable with the spasmodic domination of power centres in the Ganges Delta, and whenever the chance offered itself, broke away. This is a dominating theme in the history of Bengal.

Today there is also the friction due to land and water resources. Here there are major misunderstandings, because of singularly naive perceptions on both sides. As far as water resources are concerned, Bangladesh is concerned about the free flow of upstream riparine waters that come in from India, essentially the Brahmaputra, the Teesta and the Ganges. There has never been difficulty with regard to the Brahmaputra, but that is not to say that there may not be difficulties at some future date. The other two require a separate, detailed note.

Agree with you completely dada.