Why China is STUPENDOUSLY Well Designed

[beijingwalker]

Why China is STUPENDOUSLY Well Designed​

China and its mega cities are some of the most well designed urban spaces in the world. But what makes them so special?--This video is the second in a 6 part series exploring some of China's biggest infrastructure stories.

 

[tower9]

The US has a far better geographic position

 

[beijingwalker]

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[Hamartia Antidote]

The US has a far better geographic position

How can they compare the metro system of Beijing with 21.54M people with Philadelphia which only has a population of 1.75 million. A number so small I bet most cities in China that have that size of a population don't even bother building subways let alone argue over their design.

With 12x+ the people I would expect it to be 12x more elaborate.

Also note their HSR is almost all on their East coast while the US population is heavy on both coasts.
So they have an advantage of over the majority of the Billion population being localized in half the country while our lower population is on both sides.

Our population is mostly on the edges of our country

 

[beijingwalker]

How can they compare the metro system of Beijing with 21.54M people with Philadelphia which only has a population of 1.75 million.

With 12x+ the people I would expect it to be 12x more elaborate.

Also note their HSR is almost all on their East coast while the US population is heavy on both coasts.
So they have an advantage of over the majority of the Billion population being localized in half the country while our lower population is on both sides.
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China high speed railways also go to the very border in Tibet with India,whose population size is just several thousands.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

China high speed railways also go to the very border in Tibet with India,whose population size is just several thousands.

I suppose you think that line runs as often as your busiest east coast ones too.

Or would you consider it basically unused in comparison?

BTW how long would a HSR ride be from say Shanghai to that "remote" Tibet endpoint that you like to talk about? Can you post a page showing the time it takes for that high speed ride?

I'd like to survey people here on PDF as to how many times a year could they tolerate the ride since somehow you think it should be fine.

 

[beijingwalker]

I suppose you think that line runs as often as your busiest east coast ones too.

Or would you consider it basically unused in comparison?

BTW how long would a HSR ride be from say Shanghai to that Tibet endpoint?
Can you post a page showing the time it takes for that high speed ride?

Tibet and Xinjiang bullet train lines

The bullet train travelling through the clouds in the Himalaya mountains

The bullet train travelling through the clouds in the Himalaya mountains By Frankie Youd For the first time in history, individuals visiting Tibet can experience the area’s mountains and views at high speed, via Tibet’s first ever bullet train. Stretching 435km the line connects the capital...

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Xinjiang bullet train running through the harsh terrain, breathtaking!

Xinjiang bullet train running through the harsh terrain, breathtaking!

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[tower9]

How can they compare the metro system of Beijing with 21.54M people with Philadelphia which only has a population of 1.75 million. A number so small I bet most cities in China that have that size of a population don't even bother building subways let alone argue over their design.

With 12x+ the people I would expect it to be 12x more elaborate.

Also note their HSR is almost all on their East coast while the US population is heavy on both coasts.
So they have an advantage of over the majority of the Billion population being localized in half the country while our lower population is on both sides.
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Our population is mostly on the edges of our country


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The US has the most invincible geography. Literally no other power can genuinely threaten its security.

As far as population density and geographical proximity goes, you can argue China has an advantage with that. But it is surrounded by a lot of countries, some are hostile and powerful, so that's a huge negative compared to the location of the US.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Tibet and Xinjiang bullet train lines

The bullet train travelling through the clouds in the Himalaya mountains

The bullet train travelling through the clouds in the Himalaya mountains By Frankie Youd For the first time in history, individuals visiting Tibet can experience the area’s mountains and views at high speed, via Tibet’s first ever bullet train. Stretching 435km the line connects the capital...

pdf.defence.pk

Xinjiang bullet train running through the harsh terrain, breathtaking!

Xinjiang bullet train running through the harsh terrain, breathtaking!

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Did I hear that correctly that it was over 24 hours from Shanghai to Tibet or was that Beijing to Tibet?

Can you get the latest numbers?

As you can see US travel is dominated by flying to and from only a few key locations that can be very far far far away. This is where the HSR lines would have to be put in...I'd like to calculate the times and see if PDF members would tolerate it (as you suggest) instead of using a plane.

 

[K_Bin_W]

I drove 2000 miles and went to 4 major US cities, US needs $10T to upgrade their infra coast to coast

 

[beijingwalker]

Did I hear that correctly that it was over 24 hours from Shanghai to Tibet or was that Beijing to Tibet?

Can you get the latest numbers?

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As you can see US travel is dominated by flying to and from only a few key locations that can be very far away. This is where the HSR lines would have to be put in...I'd like to calculate the times and see if PDF members would tolerate it (as you suggest) instead of using a plane.

You can ask him, since HSR is his preferred way of transport in China. He almost goes everywhere by train.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

You can ask him, since HSR is his preferred way of transport in China. He almost goes everywhere by train.

I could but he would probably say 48 hours. I can use that if you want.

I was hoping since you are the HSR proponent would would actually know some numbers (yeah right!).

But apparently I am mistaken.

We will go with > 24 hours since you don't want to correct it.

I guess that is the number i will use in the PDF poll I create to see if people here would use HSR tomorrow with the map I provided if it magically appeared.

Maybe it is really a week? Why are you avoiding answering?
You dance better than those Uighurs.

 

[beijingwalker]

I could but he would probably say 48 hours. I can use that if you want.

I was hoping since you are the HSR proponent would would actually know some numbers (yeah right!).

But apparently I am mistaken.

We will go with > 24 hours since you don't want to correct it.

I guess that is the number i will use in the PDF poll I create.

No one expects lazy Americans to be able to build HSR networks, you can try to clean up your cesspool city subways first, it can be a good start to do something to help US enter the 21st century.

 

[Menthol]

USA during the golden age, is like China today.

They built massive highway networks, massive railway networks, bridges, skyscrapers, etc.

But it's too bad, in the end USA mismanaged the country.

 

[hirobo2]

America's geographic isolation gives them false sense of security. Their greatest threat not something external... but from within!