Why Bangladesh Freedom Is God's Gift To Pakistan

[Ahmet Pasha]

Yes I have stated that I have met Bangladeshi muslims who were properly knowledgable. Following proper sunnah etc. But the condition the leaders of the state are in is clear. They are more loyal to appeasing India than to their own people.

But the economic progress Bangladesh has made is really very impressive.

Your Idea about Bangladeshi Muslim is wrong . most of the people follow or love Islam . some maybe try to secular which looks to you following India but reality is more people are incline to Islam then the people to ward atheism . in fact Hijab wearing woman have increase more then the pre independent Bangladesh when we were part of Pakistan . many university going girl clad them self with burkha/ Hijab and university going boys following sunneti dress and beard is very common .

 

[Pakistani E]

Stop beating a dead horse. No one in Pakistan, except a few Jamatis, gives a sh!t about Bonglodesh. We don't even mention their existence to get votes here, whilst they are obsessed by us. Just like their physically abstracted cousins in Injia.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Ok dude. If it comes to it. And if Pakistan really is in need of my service. Obviously I will do so.

So far I have very respectfully responded to your belligerence.

And there have always been people who have tried to find meaning from the quran in light of present day events.

THAT IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE of the quran it is a book of guidance in which Allah invites EVERYONE to ponder and engage in At-Taffakur

Stop hating people even if they don't like you, you will succeed in your life..

About Islam, you have tried to connect Quran's ayat to 1971 incident.. not me.. so better not to question caliber of others..

Also, try to join your own motherland's Air Force first..

 

[JonAsad]

I used to think about this alot. Why would God decree it that Pakistan would be divided. But then recently I was listening to Tafseer ul Quran by Dr. Israr Ahmed and he was explaining about how things are decreed to happen in the unseen and how in our world(in the here and now) we might not immediately recognise the reasons for such decrees to be carried out. But everything that Allah does has khair(good) in it.

For example when I reached the tafseer of Surah Kahf. He(Dr. Israr) was translating/explaining the part where Musa alai salam goes to meet Al-khidr(lets leave the debate whether he was a prophet, an angel or aowliya Allah) and Al-Khidr sabotages a boat so a tyrant king cannot confiscate it, KILLS A BOY AS HIS PARENTS WERE RIGHTEOUS AND HE IN FUTURE WAS GOING TO BRING HARM UPON THEM and finally he repairs a wall for two orphans whose father was righteous and had hidden a treasure for them. So here's the whole story.

But the part that interested my most was Al khidr's first and second actions. As Allah azza wa jal also says in Quran rough meaning of those verses is that "
Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not. (2:216)"

So now recently I have seen with my own eyes how hard Bangladesh tries to mimic India in being a "secular" falsely enlightened society just like Pakistani psuedo libturd intellectuals. And try sooooo hard in pleasing India and have so many traits of Indian hindus.

It makes me think whatever Allah decreed, maybe even if it was punishment for sin Pakistani nation committed. It still had good in it. It saved us from a people who would turn out to be child that brings harm upon it's righteous parents like in the ayat of Surah kahf I mentioned above.


And if a Bangladeshi reads this. Do not get me wrong. I have met several righyeous Bangladeshi muslims too. But generally Bangladeshi society seems to be becoming more atheist and more hindu. And going away from Islam.

You made some good points..
I don't understand the hate directed towards you..
Can you guys just cool off..

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

There is a specific group of members within PDF who is skeptic of my own skepticism of the genus named Karachiite.

So far the group has failed to bring any sound explanation to the querries posed by me (which I'll be genuinely happy to re-state)

Therefore accuses me of hatred. But that genus itself acts in such a haughty, intolerant of other ethnicities, arrogant, pharonic manner in its natural habitat that it is inviting of hatred itself.

Alhamdulilah for the calm/tolerant demeanor all Lahoris have been given by Allah.

You made some good points..
I don't understand the hate directed towards you..
Can you guys just cool off..

 

[MM_Haider]

today is not that 1965 era sir . blockade was first indian option if it was east paksitan . i am not talking about theories i am looking it as naked truth . if today was east paksitan .paksitan can be blackmailed by india in hours

in 2019 a united Pakistan would have an Air Craft Career, denying India any blockade .. !! India would have been sandwiched between Pakistans ... to reach out to Far East or Central Asia, would not have been possible without Pakistan and coming to terms with us.

 

[PakSword]

Ok dude. If it comes to it. And if Pakistan really is in need of my service. Obviously I will do so.

So far I have very respectfully responded to your belligerence.

And there have always been people who have tried to find meaning from the quran in light of present day events.

THAT IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE of the quran it is a book of guidance in which Allah invites EVERYONE to ponder and engage in At-Taffakur

See, I have not even responded to you in the manner you quoted me with "STFU" in the other thread..

But whatever you have quoted from Quran to justify the breakup of one nation into two on the basis of cast, color and creed is not correct.. You may find other examples, but this example doesn't fit with the Ayah you have quoted..

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Or it could have done same like in '71. Maybe prop up a new proxy. And choke Pakistan in internal affairs. While embarking upon a new military adventure in the external dynamic.

today is not that 1965 era sir . blockade was first indian option if it was east paksitan . i am not talking about theories i am looking it as naked truth . if today was east paksitan .paksitan can be blackmailed by india in hours

Ahhh!!! Yes that is also a potential anti-thesis to my opinion. We also could have turned the table on India and used E Pakistan to our advantage and pressure India.

in 2019 a united Pakistan would have an Air Craft Career, denying India any blockade .. !! India would have been sandwiched between Pakistans ... to reach out to Far East or Central Asia, would not have been possible without Pakistan and coming to terms with us.

 

[Valar.]

I agree that Bangladesh's freedom is blessing in disguise for Pakistan, but not for the reasons you are stating.

You see, Bangladesh shouldn't have separated from India in the first, but it didn't happen.
Later on they shouldn't have separated from Pakistan, but it also didn't happen.
They should have joined India after separation from Pakistan, but it also didn't happen.
Now, they are on their own.
Is it a good thing for them in long run? I don't think so.
Its a tiny little country with 170 million people and 700 rivers.
Land is hard to find, ever growing population and danger of sinking into sea in near future.

Their best course of action is either to join India or go for greater Bengal, neither of which would be liked by India.

Next best solution, keep on immigrating to other countries whether legally or illegally. And this is what they are doing.
20 million illegal Bangladeshis in India and 3.2 million in Pakistan.
They will keep on doing that till we make them stop.

 

[PakSword]

You made some good points..
I don't understand the hate directed towards you..
Can you guys just cool off..

There is a history to this bro..

I had no issues with him and we discussed different topics with other members on our private profiles sometime back..

One day he just started cursing all the Karachiites and because he met a few like him in the US.. He even wished death on all Karachiites.. From that point onward, I stopped interacting with him.

But today, he again quoted me that my liking for Lahore Qalandars is some form of sarcasm, so I wanted to teach him some lesson in a polite way.. that's it..

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

There is no mention of cast, color or creed in my original post. The post only mentions the qudrat(Power) of Allah and how he is able to bring forth good out of anything that is sesmingly evil to the human eye.

The only devatable(even in my eyes)thing I have mentioned is religiosity of Bangali society or where it may be headed.

And the ayat of Surat al Baqarah mention just that. You might like something but is evil for you. You might hate something but it is good for you.

Maybe you are one of theseI really never wanted to use these verses on a fellow muslim but alas.....)
"Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment"(2:07)

Maybe that is why you cannot read the CLEAR verses I have quoted above. And they are in CLEAR english for you to read.

But whatever you have quoted from Quran to justify the breakup of one nation into two on the basis of cast, color and creed is not correct.. You may find other examples, but this example doesn't fit with the Ayah you have quoted..

Oooh and STFU mean"Sleep Tight Forever U beautiful lovely creature"

See, I have not even responded to you in the manner you quoted me with "STFU" in the other thread..

But whatever you have quoted from Quran to justify the breakup of one nation into two on the basis of cast, color and creed is not correct.. You may find other examples, but this example doesn't fit with the Ayah you have quoted..

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Don't underestimate Pakistan Army.. India would have to fight a two front war! Bengalis are very brave nation.. don't forget MM Alam was a Bengali too..

He was Pakistanized, there is a difference between the 2

 

[PakSword]

There is no mention of cast, color or creed in my original post. The post only mentions the qudrat(Power) of Allah and how he is able to bring forth good out of anything that is sesmingly evil to the human eye.

The only devatable(even in my eyes)thing I have mentioned is religiosity of Bangali society or where it may be headed.

And the ayat of Surat al Baqarah mention just that. You might like something but is evil for you. You might hate something but it is good for you.

Maybe you are one of theseI really never wanted to use these verses on a fellow muslim but alas.....)
"Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment"(2:07)

Maybe that is why you cannot read the CLEAR verses I have quoted above. And they are in CLEAR english for you to read.


Oooh and STFU mean"sleep tight forever U beautiful lovely creature"

OK, thanks for pointing out.. let me correct myself, breakup of a nation didn't bring any good to both the parts..

There were Muslims living there, and Muslims living here.. They went under the control of Indians, we were humiliated.. there is nothing good that came out of partition of Pakistan..

And any breakup in Muslims will not bring any good to any Muslim.. if you think that 1971 was something good happened, no it was not..

The only thing we can do is to stop dividing our nation further, between Punjabis, Sindhis, Pakhtoons, Saraikis, Urdu Speakers, Balochs, Hazaras etc etc etc..

 

[Imran Khan]

in 2019 a united Pakistan would have an Air Craft Career, denying India any blockade .. !! India would have been sandwiched between Pakistans ... to reach out to Far East or Central Asia, would not have been possible without Pakistan and coming to terms with us.

yes please combine bd+pak gdp and reserves and populations and then count again . we will be deep in mess . it will be game of minutes for surgical strike on east pakistan by land air or sea

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Amazing thing is most people confuse Pakistan to only being a territory where in reality it started out as a complete ideology

He was Pakistanized, there is a difference between the 2