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By JORDAN WEISSMANN
FEB 05, 2020

President Donald Trump’s trade war with China was a bruising exercise that tanked business investment, weighed down manufacturing, and resulted in a stop-gap deal that will probably help out America’s soybean farmers but doesn’t really address the core tensions between the two countries. There was, however, at least one nation that came out of the ordeal a clear winner: Vietnam.

U.S. imports from China fell by $87 billion during 2019, or 16 percent, according to data released by the Census Bureau on Wednesday. That sharp decline was largely driven by the White House’s tariffs, which significantly disrupted trade between the two countries. (Shipments from Hong Kong, which are tracked separately, also shrank.) But overall, goods imports only dwindled $42.6 billion, or 1.7 percent, as other countries picked up business the Chinese lost. The biggest gainer was Vietnam, which many American companies have turned to as a reliable supply-chain alternative for things such as clothing manufacturing. Imports from there surged by 36 percent, or $17.5 billion.



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The fact that a good deal of production shifted from China to other countries in Asia last year instead of returning to the United States illustrates one of the more fundamental problems with Trump’s approach to trade. The president tends to obsess over America’s trade deficits with individual countries like China or Mexico, and seems to believe that he can fix our overall trade gap with the world by forcing those partners into better agreements or simply cutting off their exports with tariffs. In other words, he sees all of trade in purely one-on-one, transactional terms. But our global trade shortfall is in fact driven by macroeconomic factors like savings and investment that affect the value of the dollar, which means that shrinking our deficit with one country may well lead it to grow with another.

In a year when Trump really did follow through on his promise to get tough with China, the deficit in goods and services combined fell by just 1.7 percent, as both our imports and our exports took a hit. The latter helps partly explain why, despite Trump’s talk of a “blue collar boom,” U.S. manufacturing activity actually declined a bit over the year, according to the Federal Reserve’s index of industrial production. The good people of Hanoi, though, appear to be better off for his efforts.

https://slate.com/business/2020/02/trade-war-china-us-vietnam-trump.html
 
Who says a trade war is bad?
CN hope that their internal market at least can save some of them in the trade war, but Covirus just completely detroy their hope.

Even when CN sucessully control Cov, they still dont know which epidemic will come next, and we believe that 90% the next epidemic will happen in CN again cos Han race have a very weak body resistance making them easy to get sick :laugh:
 
CN hope that their internal market at least can save some of them in the trade war, but Covirus just completely detroy their hope.

Even when CN sucessully control Cov, they still dont know which epidemic will come next, and we believe that 90% the next epidemic will happen in CN again cos Han race have a very weak body resistance making them easy to get sick :laugh:
They had the chance to stop the virus when mid December the patient zero was delivered to the hospital. Too bad, the chance was wasted. China economy will slip into recession.

The peaceful rise stalls.
 
They had the chance to stop the virus when mid December the patient zero was delivered to the hospital. Too bad, the chance was wasted. China economy will slip into recession.

The peaceful rise stalls.
In CN, every local officials must ask for Xi's decision before doing anything, so Wuhan never had a chance to cure the patien zero.

CN willl lose many jobs after the epidemic cos No one can trust what CN say now.

Not mentioning US still say :"No delay in trade deal or else Trump will keep slapping tariff". Life in CN is so terrible now. Licking US-Jap azz for money since 1979 is just a waste, only US-JP r the winner while CN always be the loser :lol:
 
But Vietnam imports from China increased even more.
Thats ok, we dont wanna produce toxic productions like steel-rare earth. Its so dangerous and may cause epidemic outbrake like in CN.

Let CN do the dirty-toxic work, we just simply earn easy money by selling CN products .
 
Thats ok, we dont wanna produce toxic productions like steel-rare earth. Its so dangerous and may cause epidemic outbrake like in CN.

Let CN do the dirty-toxic work, we just simply earn easy money by selling CN products .
The data indicates China is bypassing the tarrif.
All country will become dirty before they become rich. Wealth is more important when you poor before quality of life become more important when you are rich.
 
All country will become dirty before they become rich. Wealth is more important when you poor before quality of life become more important when you are rich.
Haha.u know, u say exactly the same Formosa steel boss told VN govt' and we all know what happened, Formosa got heavy fined and had to do the environmental cleaning.

And our grow is still good even during hard time like trade war till now. So, if u want deadly disease outbreak and cities lockdown like CN, then just keep coming to CN and u willl be lockdown in Wuhan again soon ( there r lots of polluted steel factoriws in Wuhan). We dont develope VN as the way CN do.:cool:
 
They had the chance to stop the virus when mid December the patient zero was delivered to the hospital. Too bad, the chance was wasted. China economy will slip into recession.

The peaceful rise stalls.

When peaceful rise is impossible then less than peaceful rise is inevitable.

Vietnam isn't a treaty ally of any major power and has very weak mechanized, naval and air forces.
 
When peaceful rise is impossible then less than peaceful rise is inevitable.

Vietnam isn't a treaty ally of any major power and has very weak mechanized, naval and air forces.

Vietnam is irrelevant but the poster you are quoting thinks the sun shines from that country. Vietnam will become the new sweat shop capital of the world. He continues to spew hatred against China. I hope China thrashes this tiny insignificant country.
 
Vietnam is irrelevant but the poster you are quoting thinks the sun shines from that country. Vietnam will become the new sweat shop capital of the world. He continues to spew hatred against China. I hope China thrashes this tiny insignificant country.
We have a few in the far east section, the most active two are all here in this thread, one of them being the official speaker of Vietnam government, the other one, I don't even know how do you describe, a mysterious creature.
 

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