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Who Sabotaged Chinese President Xi Jinping's India Visit?

May be we are relying too much on Chinese sources and drawing conclusions. This may very well be a planned activity to check resolve of new Indian PM. PLA moved in when Xi was already in India. So India did not get a chance to retort by cancelling the visit which happened when another High official wanted to visit in 2013.

We should not forget that China plays realpolitic to the hilt.
 
9/23/2014 @ 11:11PM 6,729 views

Who Sabotaged Chinese President Xi Jinping's India Visit?



On the 17-19th of September, Xi Jinping, the president of the People’s Republic of China was visiting India: he and new prime minister Narendra Modi were expecting much from the meeting, touted as a breaking point in relationships.

At the end of the day though, the results are lagging from such hopes. $30 billion dollars have been committed by the Chinese delegation. $20 billion of public money would go to a fast train corridor and a new strategic road. $6.8 billion would further be spent on two industrial parks in Gujarat and Maharashtra. 24 Chinese companies would buy products (pharmaceuticals, farming…) for $3.6 billion.

All this was far away from the “over 100 billion dollars” suggested by Mumbai’s Chinese general consul days earlier. China was keen to dwarf the 35 billion dollars committed by Japan two weeks before. China wanted to weaken the appeal of a commercial axis between its Western and Eastern big neighbors which are trying to sidestep China.

Similarly Xi Jinping also wanted to preempt any chance of a defense alliance between those two (and others in Asia, like the Philippines and Vietnam): Xi was letting India dream of a border agreement along the model agreement signed in 2004 by his predecessor Hu Jintao on the Chinese northern boundary, with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Unfortunately during this visit, on this diplomatic field as well, no progress at all was registered. And the atmosphere was so cool, that while Modi was urging China to do something about a border agreement, both leaders ended the talks on separate communiqués… A rather strong way to express to the world their lack of agreement.

The reason for this derailing was the intrusion, on the 18th of September, of 1000 PLA soldiers in Southern Ladakh, one of the two contested regions along the Sino-Indian border. The troops were bringing heavy equipment and claiming to build a “provisional road”. This was known in the end of the afternoon, just an hour before the banquet that Modi had called in the honor of his guest. Therefore, while 1500 Indian soldiers were dispatched on the spot, Modi asked Xi to get his troops away – Xi acquiesced.

Friday the 19th however, the Chinese troops were holding ground. They eventually retreated – but dispatched a small group of 35 men to pitch tents: when this was reported in Delhi, whatever confidence was subsiding in the visiting party evaporated.

Observers were at a loss to explain. The faux pas was deliberate, but to what aim? Xi was losing all what he had come to fetch. Modi as well. Both men’s objectives had been derailed. Who might be those opponents of a Sino-Chinese rapprochement?

Some of them were obviously within the Chinese high command. They might also be in the regime’s political circles, high cadres trying to weaken Xi Jinping. Since his accession to power in October 2012, Xi has started a relentless anti-corruption campaign, that has already felled thousands of heads among cadres, among which dozens at ministerial level.

Opposition could also have been reinforced from the Indian side. An Indian analyst suspects military traders in armament imports, India being now the world number one on this market. Whoever those behind the curtain, Xi Jinping back in Beijing took two actions, both hinting at his own role as a victim in this “treacherous stroke”, and at his exasperation.

First came the “authorized” rumors of impending elevations for two generals faithful to Xi Jinping: Liu Yuan, and Zhang Youxia, deemed to become vice president of the Central Military Commission and head of the military’s discipline commission. This last organ is taking care of corruption within the PLA, and of dereliction of duty –the misbehavior likely to have occurred in Ladakh during Xi’s Indian visit.

Second, on Sunday the 21st, the commanders of each arm were gathered in Beijing to address “inefficiencies” in the chain of military command. Mainly, they were instructed to ensure that “all PLA forces follow the instructions of President Xi.” This last meeting was followed the day after by a second conference, where the Party Secretary delivered the mission to “develop new types of command”, for more efficiency but also for reliability and faithfulness to the core leader.

Finally, during Xi’s visit, a last incident happened. On one of the public TV channels, an anchor presented the Chinese President as “Eleven Jinping”: she had erroneously read Xi’s name as the roman figure “XI”. She was given the sack. Such a mistake brings to smile. But it also exemplifies the long way ahead, in both countries, to know each other better.

Who Sabotaged Chinese President Xi Jinping's India Visit? - Forbes

Horus, I believe the Western reports are being disingenuous here.

Xi Jinping has consolidated power far better than any other Chinese leader in the past few decades. The Politburo Standing Comittee is filled with his supporters (not to mention the Central Military Commission), this is as close to a one-man-show as it gets in China, after Mao Zedong himself.

He has even taken out Zhou Yongkang and Xu Caihou, which means absolutely no one in China is outside of his reach. The second name may not be a familiar one with most people here, he was the former second-in-command of the PLA, and obviously Zhou Yongkang who is/was an even bigger fish, and a former member of the Standing Committee itself.

Xi Jinping is the chairman of the Central Military Commission and thus the ultimate authority over the PLA. This is not contestable, anyone who tries to undermine his authority there will have a very short time to regret it. And they all know it very well.

Whatever actions the PLA commits to, it is fully under the ambit and authority of Xi Jinping.

And even the analysts in the international media will grudgingly admit to this, though they will of course try to spin it in the usual fashion.
 
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Horus, I believe the Western reports are being disingenuous here.

Xi Jinping has consolidated power far better than any other Chinese leader in the past few decades. The Politburo Standing Comittee is filled with his supporters (not to mention the Central Military Commission), this is as close to a one-man-show as it gets in China, after Mao Zedong himself.

He has even taken out Zhou Yongkang and Xu Caihao, which means absolutely no one in China is outside of his reach. The second name may not be a familiar one with most people here, he was the former second-in-command of the PLA, and obviously Zhou Yongkang who is/was an even bigger fish, and a former member of the Standing Committee itself.

Xi Jinping is the chairman of the Central Military Commission and thus the ultimate authority over the PLA. This is not contestable, anyone who tries to undermine his authority there will have a very short time to regret it. And they all know it very well.

Whatever actions the PLA commits to, it is fully under the ambit and authority of Xi Jinping.

And even the analysts in the international media will grudgingly admit to this, though they will of course try to spin it in the usual fashion.

So we may assume that he himself sabotaged his tour, just to test India's reaction or for some other purpose?
 
So we may assume that he himself sabotaged his tour, just to test India's reaction or for some other purpose?

Well everyone will have their own views.

Bear in mind that India made a point of sending their President to Vietnam, just days before Xi Jinping was scheduled to arrive in India.

That was making a point, and why would you be surprised if we made a point in return.
 
Well everyone will have their own views.

Bear in mind that India made a point of sending their President to Vietnam, just days before Xi Jinping was scheduled to arrive in India.

That was making a point, and why would you be surprised if we made a point in return.
I am sure the diplomatic community/government has better awareness of what really happened. I am talking about from a ordinary point of view. Everyone speculating that the military taking action on its own despite being told otherwise by your head of state (apparently) is a sign of some fracture between the two. But it is just 'Mr Eleven' playing games!
 
I am sure the diplomatic community/government has better awareness of what really happened. I am talking about from a ordinary point of view. Everyone speculating that the military taking action on its own despite being told otherwise by your head of state (apparently) is a sign of some fracture between the two. But it is just 'Mr Eleven' playing games!

I wouldn't say it is playing games as such, more like making an important counter-point to the one made by India with the Vietnam visit.

The message is, the Indian adminstration may have changed, but the Chinese adminstration has changed too.

And the balance of power on the border remains the same. So don't mess around.
 
I wouldn't say it is playing games as such, more like making an important counter-point to the one made by India with the Vietnam visit.

The message is, the Indian adminstration may have changed, but the Chinese adminstration has changed too.

And the balance of power on the border remains the same. So don't mess around.

I doubt Indians were ever in a position to mess around. From Indian side it is just a counter, not an offensive.
 
I doubt Indians were ever in a position to mess around. From Indian side it is just a counter, not an offensive.

I respectfully disagree, in my opinion Modi has much to gain by "showing" he has more spine against China than Manmohan did.

And the answer is, spine or no spine, the balance of power on the border has not changed.

Any attempt to poke us, as with the Vietnam visit days before his arrival, will receive a strong counter.
 
I respectfully disagree, in my opinion Modi has much to gain by "showing" he has more spine against China than Manmohan did.

And the answer is, spine or no spine, the balance of power on the border has not changed.

Any attempt to poke us, as with the Vietnam visit days before his arrival, will receive a strong counter.

How is that even an issue when Xi intended to visit pakistan too?.
 
I respectfully disagree, in my opinion Modi has much to gain by "showing" he has more spine against China than Manmohan did.
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That may well be so but unlikely when your President is visiting. Modi has laid a lot of stress on the supposed idea that he can work with China & this undermined his Chinese policy completely. He's no fool to start issues up this early on in his term, this seems to be a situation that he found himself in.
 
That may well be so but unlikely when your President is visiting. Modi has laid a lot of stress on the supposed idea that he can work with China & this undermined his Chinese policy completely. He's no fool to start issues up this early on in his term, this seems to be a situation that he found himself in.

Well in the end the investment proposals collapsed by a pretty huge amount.

No doubt he can find the capital for his investment plans elsewhere though.

Due to reasons other than India. He didn't cancel it for India.

That's right. But no doubt it was still a factor.
 
Well in the end the investment proposals collapsed by a pretty huge amount.

That is a different matter but what I find perplexing is what exactly is the message from China.? After it looked like they could do business with Modi, to do what they did and attempt to embarrass him would help China how exactly? Does China really want an India feeling more pushed to making common ground with the Japanese & the Americans? That's pretty much what was achieved here. I would think China has slipped many places in Mr.Modi list of countries he can do business with.

Btw, I also read some reports that quoted unnamed very senior Indian government officials as saying that President Xi Jinping told PM Modi that he was puzzled by the incursions. What's your take on that? Seems like by the last day, the Modi government had simply no confidence whatsoever in what the Chinese delegation was saying because things on ground were happening contrary to the assurances being given.
 
100$ billion investment even if it was from the mouth of Xi himself would be unbelievable.

Money is money no matter in whose hands. Its on only vast returns are expected

So far we have seen Modi speak, effects of his action will only be visible earliest at a decade from now, to justify investment of such a vast sum.
 

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