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That's for anti radiation purposes.Or by taking a bath in cow dung.
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That's for anti radiation purposes.Or by taking a bath in cow dung.
That's a disgusting comment, there was one incident where a man was in despair on the rooftops of his burning home, blocking the door way to try to prevent an angry mob of rabid hindutva pigs from lynching his family, I don't know what became of him or his family, but to make fun of them in these troubling times is just sick..
stop enjoying their misery please, yes they decided to stay for whatever reason you and I cannot understand today. But you should thank them for giving you Pakistan because they were a part of this struggle too and it was their votes that went in favor of Pakistan too. so, every Pakistani please stop this non-sense of throwing this on their face today.
Maybe they should own a pair and fight back
Nice propganda. But useless. You will not get nothing out of it.stop enjoying their misery please, yes they decided to stay for whatever reason you and I cannot understand today. But you should thank them for giving you Pakistan because they were a part of this struggle too and it was their votes that went in favor of Pakistan too. so, every Pakistani please stop this non-sense of throwing this on their face today.
Nice propganda. But useless. You will not get nothing out of it.
Here I burst your bubble..
Tell me how many Indian Muslims has applied for Pakistani citizenship since Modi govt came into power back in 2014 in out of fear of so called "Hindutva "??
Answer is "0"
Now tell me how many Pakistani Hindus and Sikhs applied for Indian citizenship since 2014 bcoz of real prescution??
Answer is "many".
So who is the devil here??
Islam Mai yahi sikhaya jaata hair kya tum logo Ko ki din Bhar yaha baithkar jhut bolte Reho.
Let's talk about Indian Muslims now. Here they are living a normal life. This is all politics they all knows very well. But they have habit playing a victim card like every Muslim is playing in every corner of this world.
Both Hindus and Muslims suffers whenever riots happens in India. There is nothing new in this. But the problem with Muslims is, they only cares about Muslims only. Other's lives are cheap for them.
Riots are not a thing to celebrate for any community. Only Humans suffers as per my perspective.
And here I tell you one more thing as I work with many Muslims colleagues and have many Muslim friends too, most of Indian Muslims still hate you. They knows your game. So don't poke your nose in our internal matter. Otherwise you will regret it for life.
Yup.. Everything logical is idiotic for you.completely idiotic post....ignored
No, Pakistan's non-Muslim population didn't decline from 23% to 3.7% as BJP claimsAt least you can count incidents. We are still wondering how 12% minorities in Pakistan at the time of partition got reduced to under 4%. Countless such incidents must be happening in Pakistan on a daily basis since 1947 against non muslims.
No, Pakistan's non-Muslim population didn't decline from 23% to 3.7% as BJP claims
During the debate on the Citizenship Amendment Bill in Parliament, the BJP repeatedly claimed that population of religious minorities in Pakistan has declined from 23% in 1947 to 3.7% in 2011. Analysis of official data however shows this argument is faulty.
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On Wednesday, while moving the Citizenship Amendment Bill in the Rajya Sabha, Amit Shah reiterated his claim, saying Pakistan and Bangladesh have seen a decline of up to 20 percentage points in their populations of religious minorities.
"Whan ke alpshankyak kahan gaye? Ya toh vo maar diye gaye, ya unhone Bharat main sharan liya (Where did the minorities disappear in Pakistan and Bangladesh? Either they were persecuted or they took shelter in India)," Amit Shah said in the Rajya Sabha.
This has been a position maintained by the Bharatiya Janata Party and its supporters. To highlight the persecution of religious minorities in Pakistan (particularly of the Hindus), the BJP and right-wing Hindu organisations in India have been citing similar figures to argue that non-Muslims were brutally persecuted in an Islamic Pakistan after the Partition of 1947.
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But how true are these numbers? Has population of non-Muslims in Pakistan really shrunk to 3.7 per cent today from a high of 23 per cent? What is the basis of this claim?
IndiaToday.in's analysis of Pakistan's Census data shows that these claims are faulty.
TRACING PAKISTAN's NON-MUSLIM POPULATION
Pakistan got its identity as a separate nation on August 14, 1947. Back then, Pakistan also included present-day Bangladesh which was known as East Pakistan. These two territories were carved out as a new independent nation with Islam as its state religion.
There is no authentic and reliable official data on the religious composition of Pakistan's population in 1947. While presenting the data on religious composition of Pakistan in 1947 in his speech, Home Minister Amit Shah did not mention his source either. A similar figure was mentioned in an article published by the Hudson Institute in 2013. The artilce 'Cleansing Pakistan of Minorities' was written by Farahnaz Ispahani, former member of Pakistan's Parliament. But she too did not mention the source of her figures.
The preceding figures on Pakistan's religious composition that are available are from Census 1941. But since it was conducted in an undivided India, referring to it is futile as it doesn't reflect the ground situation created just after the bloodied Partition in 1947.
After its formation, the first census in Pakistan was carried out in 1951. This census included both East and West Pakistan.
As per this census, the share of Muslims in Pakistan's overall population in 1951 was 85.80 per cent, while the share of non-Muslims was 14.20 per cent. (Pakistan here refers to East and West Pakistan taken together).
What is important to note in Census 1951 is that Pakistan's non-Muslim population wasn't evenly distributed.
In West Pakistan, the non-Muslim population was just 3.44 per cent, while in East Pakistan (today's Bangladesh) they had a significant share comprising 23.20 per cent of the population therein.
As per Census 1951, share of Muslims in Pakistan's overall population was 85.80%, while share of non-Muslims was 14.20%.
To understand the change in population of religious minorities in present-day Pakistan, we need to separately analyse the trends in West Pakistan and East Pakistan (now Bangladesh).
WHAT HAPPENED IN WEST PAKISTAN
In 1951, Muslims comprised 96.56 per cent of the total population in the territory that is today known as Pakistan. The table below details the religious composition of each of Pakistan's five provinces.
The next census in Pakistan was carried out in 1961 which said the non-Muslim population in West Pakistan had reduced to 2.83 per cent of West Pakistan's total population.
By 1972 when Pakistan carried out its third census, East Pakistan had been liberated and was now known as Bangladesh.
The 1972 census shows non-Muslims in Pakistan comprised 3.25 per cent of the total population. This was higher than their share in 1961. By the time the next census was carried out in 1981, Pakistan's non-Muslim population saw a miniscule rise--from 3.25 per cent in 1972 to 3.30 per cent in 1981.
Following Census 1981, Pakistan did not carry out a fresh census for more than 15 years and the next census was carried out in 1998.
As per this census, Pakistan's non-Muslim population was 3.70 per cent of the total population in 1998.
Recently, though Pakistan carried out a fresh census in 2017 but its religious data is yet to be released.
Thus in a nutshell, based on Pakistan's census data we find:
1) Population of non-Muslims was never 23 per cent of Pakistan's total population.
2) Even in undivided Pakistan, share of non-Muslim population never even touched the 15 per cent mark. (The highest was 14.2 per cent in 1951.)
3) When it comes to today's Pakistan (i.e. erstwhile West Pakistan), non-Muslims comprised 3.44 per cent of the region's population in 1951.
4) Census data show that share of non-Muslims in Pakistan has hovered around 3.5 per cent over the decades.
THE SITUATION IN EAST PAKISTAN (today's BANGLADESH)
Now, since the trend of non-Muslim population in the region that comprises Pakistan today is clear, we shall look at what happened in East Pakistan, which in 1971 became Bangladesh.
Pakistan's census data show that non-Muslims formed 23.20 per cent of East Pakistan's total population in 1951.
Over the years, this share has indeed reduced significantly, but still not as much as the BJP has claimed.
By 1961, share of non-Muslims in East Pakistan had reduced to 19.57 per cent, In 1974 it further reduced to 14.60 per cent; in 1981 to 13.40 per cent; in 1991 to 11.70 per cent and in 2001 to 10.40 per cent.
Bangladesh's latest census carried out in 2011 revealed that the share of non-Muslims has gone below 10 per cent of the country's overall population. In 2011, non-Muslims comprised 9.60 per cent of Bangladesh's population.
Thus, between 1951 and 2011, population of non-Muslims shrunk from a high of 23.20 per cent to a low 9.40 per cent.
WHERE BJP'S CLAIM IS WRONG
Having separately examined the trend in population change in the regions that are today known as Pakistan and Bangladesh, let's examine the claims made by the BJP.
The BJP has claimed:
1) Population of non-Muslims in Pakistan has reduced from 23 per cent at the time of Independence to 3.7 per cent in 2011.
2) Population of non-Muslims in Bangladesh was 22 per cent at the time of Independence and has been reduced to 7.8 per cent in 2011.
3) This decline in population share of non-Muslims in these two Islamic countries was due to widespread religious persecution.
As discussed earlier, there is no official data on the religious composition of Pakistan at the time of Partition (then including today's Bangladesh). The closest official figures available are from Census 1951. What happened between 1947 and 1951 is subject to individual interpretation.
It is a fact that thousands of non-Muslims were persecuted in Pakistan at the time of Partition in 1947 (just as thousands of Muslims were persecuted in India). Besides this, thousands of Hindus and other religious minorities left Pakistan and entered India in 1947 and thousands of Muslims left India to become Pakistani citizens. This widespread migration and killings did alter the religious composition of the regions concerned in comparison to the situation before Partition. But the exact scale of these persecutions and migration remains unknown in absence of data, and hence the population share of non-Muslims in Pakistan in 1947 remains unknown.
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Taking Pakistan's Census 1951 as benchmark for our analysis, we find that while raising the issue of religious persecution in Pakistan and Bangladesh, the BJP mixed-up data for the two regions.
Firstly, it said non-Muslims once comprised 23 per cent of Pakistan's population. The fact rather is that non-Muslims comprised 23 per cent of only East Pakistan's population, not the entire country. Taken together (East plus West Pakistan), share of non-Muslims was 14.20 per cent (the highest ever) in 1951.
Secondly, the BJP claimed that share of non-Muslims reduced from 23 per cent to 3.7 per cent in Pakistan. This too is incorrect because share of non-Muslims in Pakistan has hovered around 3.5 per cent from the first census onwards.
1951: 3.44 per cent
1961: 2.80 per cent
1972: 3.25 per cent
1981: 3.33 per cent
1998: 3.70 per cent
Thirdly, the BJP is correct in saying that the percentage share of non-Muslims has decreased significantly in Bangladesh. But it is wrong in saying that the decline was from 22 per cent to 7.8 per cent. As per official census data, the decline was from 23.20 per cent in 1951 to 9.40 per cent in 2011.
Fourthly, BJP has argued that religious persecution was the reason for decline of non-Muslim population in Bangladesh. There is no denying that religious minorities were brutally persecuted for decades in East Pakistan and later also in Bangladesh. It is a fact that hundreds of them were raped, murdered and forcibly converted into Islam.
But besides religious persecution, there were other strong factors that contributed in out-migration of non-Muslims from Bangladesh, which too resulted in decline of their share in population.
Persecution based on language in Bangladesh and greener economic opportunities in India have been strong push factors in Bangladesh for thousands of illegal immigrants who entered and settled in India.
These illegal immigrants are not just Hindus, but also comprise a sizable number of Bengali Muslims. Thus out-migration from Bangladesh has been a multi-factored phenomenon. Ascribing it entirely to persecution of religious minorities is erroneous.
This, however, does not reject the fact that religious minorities have been persecuted, raped and forcibly converted in Pakistan and Bangladesh. In many instances, such prosecution had explicit or tacit approval of the government in power.
This was particularly true in during decades of military rule and even after 1971 when East Pakistan was liberated and Bangladesh formed.
In summation, it appears that while championing the cause of religious minorities in Bangladesh and Pakistan, the BJP has used the 23 per cent figure of non-Muslims in Bangladesh (erstwhile East Pakistan) in 1951 and compared it with the 3.7 per cent figure of non-Muslims in Pakistan in 1998.
The result of this mix-up is a narrative that says population share of non-Muslims has been reduced from 23 per cent to 3.7 per cent in Pakistan.
(NOTE: An earlier version of this article had a line which said "Census data show that share of non-Hindus in Pakistan has hovered around 3.5 per cent over the decades". This line was part of the four bullet points just above the sub-head 'The situation in East Pakistan'. Instead of 'non-Hindus', the term should have been 'non-Muslims'. The error is regretted and has been corrected.)
I think maybe 2 percent of them starting fighting back.they laugh at my misery, they take part in it , now they can burn in this world and hell for not a single FUQ will be given .. and I hope this is just the beginning of their misery and worse is to come .
cant stop myself , these so called Poor Muslims taunt Pakistani's for years over our deaths from Taliban , ridicule the two nation theory, call Jinnah a traitor so they will not get a grain of sympathy from me .. they are getting what they sow, and as we say in Urdu , Mukafat-e-amal from Allah .
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I think maybe 2 percent of them starting fighting back.
LOL! Look at broken heart in denial! The whole world is talking about this issue and he claims indian muslims are just fine.Then tries to change the subject by dragging in Pakistan. What a loser!
I wonder what's the reasoning for such hate? Do they blame us for the way these radical bharti hindus feel about them?Reality is that those Pakistani's who are trying to play nice with them, these Indian Muslims will put them under the bus the very first chance they get, they are simply disgusting people and bitter in their hearts , they hold more hate for Pakistan than the Hindu's of India .
I wonder what's the reasoning for such hate? Do they blame us for the way these radical bharti hindus feel about them?
Ok so the hate for indian muslims is because Pakistan was created.One of the reason I heard that, they say if Pakistan was not created than Muslims in India will be in much higher numbers and have more opportunities , Plus it scared the Hindu that Muslims took a chunk of Land for themselves what if rest of them start taking their land ? so hence the increased hostility and hate from Hindu's for remaining Muslims in India .