What if India broke up??

[buntalanlucu]

there is no india , it is artificial british empire construct.. they should be broken according to tribal lines so there's no oppresion to the lower caste people..

 

[Hephaestus]

The India in the Indians head does not exist, the hatred amongst Indians will break india

Say's a Pakistani
If only PDF was the real world. Pakistan would be top dog everywhere! Economy, Army, Soft power, Hard power!

Alas, too much laal topi and mental mas*****bation thinking about breaking India up has made you folks go nuts.

 

[Kaniska]

Does india have a lingua franca ?No.
It's already broken socially.
Just being held together loosely.

The day world powers consider it useless to their designs or threatened. it will break.
That's why india wants to join their club and be super power asap.

Indian strategic planners would love to see people with a similar mindset like you continue to believe what you have mentioned. At the end of the day, what could be a better option for us when we see our rivals live in an illusion about us which is not factually correct?

But unlike most of the PDFs Pakistani anti-Indian posters believe, that until the Indian population has the majority of Hindus who are tolerant in nature for a tolerant society, India will thrive and prosper to the next level.
Rather you should study your own country and its trajectory for the last 75+ years. In spite of being a Muslim nation, separatism with your country is still active and has a history of separation within a short span of your modern history.

there is no india , it is artificial british empire construct.. they should be broken according to tribal lines so there's no oppresion to the lower caste people..

Wake up, man...Too much day dreaming is not good for health.

The biggest question is “WHAT IF”. Another example of mental mast##bation in action.
Some Pakjeets and lungis remain riled day and night 365 x 24 x 7 in a hope visible on so many similar threads.

Created with the sole purpose of feeling happy while day dreaming.

Exactly..When people are devoid of any reason to make them feel good, then they go for what aboutism.

 

[wildlens]

there is no india , it is artificial british empire construct.. they should be broken according to tribal lines so there's no oppresion to the lower caste people..

It is not. The people of India have been culturally one long before fake cults spread from Arabic peninsula.

 

[indushek]

रोजाना हस्तमैथुन करने से पेनाइल इंजरी हो सकती है। हाथ का उपयोग करने या जननांगों को रगड़ने से चोट और घाव हो सकते हैं। अगर ज्यादा हस्तमैथुन किया जाये तो थकान महसूस हो सकती है। हस्तमैथुन करने पर आत्म-सुख की प्राप्ति होने के बाद आपको थकान होगी और ज्यादा हस्तमैथुन करने से भी आप कमजोर हो जाते हैं।

As displayed by this video, hasth maithun can lead to delirious behavior and possible downgrade to mental faculties as well.

 

[-=virus=-]

रोजाना हस्तमैथुन करने से पेनाइल इंजरी हो सकती है। हाथ का उपयोग करने या जननांगों को रगड़ने से चोट और घाव हो सकते हैं। अगर ज्यादा हस्तमैथुन किया जाये तो थकान महसूस हो सकती है। हस्तमैथुन करने पर आत्म-सुख की प्राप्ति होने के बाद आपको थकान होगी और ज्यादा हस्तमैथुन करने से भी आप कमजोर हो जाते हैं।

As displayed by this video, hasth maithun can lead to delirious behavior and possible downgrade to mental faculties as well.

kripya shukranu ki wastage na kren

 

[Vikramaditya-I]

We’re poor, like India, for a myriad of reasons, but that’s a different topic. The point is not having a coastline does not necessarily keep a country underdeveloped.

That in itself ruins the entire point of the thread. There exists no causality.

 

[Sam6536]

So we're entertaining a hypothetical scenario here. There is no indication about any break up in atleast in my lifetime or the next hundred years or so. But 200-300 yrs down the line anything could happen, nations are not static figures, right now we have formed nations on ethnical and religious lines, globalisation has loosened borders a little but religious influences still stands. Maybe couple of thousands years later we would classify each others as Earthians vs Martians.
A country's stability is based on its feeling of "oneness" ie. Nationality, nationalism, religious identity is a binding factor, economic stability and finances are crucial etc. A nation exists for providing security both from outside factors and of property to it's citizens, the people in turn legitimise the sovereign which gives it's right, state in turn protects it's people's rights this is social contract theory.

1. First of all India is a Quasi Federal Republic i.e. States have autonomous functioning rights but the Union stands Supreme. Union has rights to make laws on both Union and States lists. Union maintains CRPF and Rapid Force battalions to quash any untoward riots and stuff.

2. The country is approximately 80-85% Hindu so apart from some areas with Muslim majority there's no impetus for succession. Let's for a second consider that all Muslims in India want to secede from India, this won't be possible as Muslim majority districts are based within larger Hindu states and are surrounded by the same. But barring some cases Muslims are staunch nationalists and have done a lot to progress our nation, Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam is among them who was an excellent scientist and orator. I remember keenly watching his discussions with school students. Muslims along with countless other ethnicities serve in our armed forces, our civil sectors and STEM fields. I myself have good Muslim friends.
Now some people will say there's no religious symbiosis between both cultures I'll differ on that part, apart from what is propagated by Hindu and Muslim rights both cultures have fused especially in the North which had a Mughal history. South has Muslim dominant regions too but it's sparsely distributed. One more thing is that India is so large that Muslims and Hindus alike differ by geography and location ie. A Maharashtrian Muslim and a Northern Muslim would speak different languages and follow different practices. Every region celebrates both national and religious leaders and achievements. In Maharashtra Shivaji Maharaj is a huge figurehead, he was the one who routed the Mughals, took lower castes in his army, used guerilla warfare for the first time which was later used in various subsequent wars and directly credited to Shivaji Maharaj including by the Viet Cong during Vietnam war.

3. You would ask what holds such a giant piecework of different geography, practices together then:
A. Religion - Hindu dominated region where offshot religions like Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism etc are regarded as sister religions.
B. Nationalism - Indians are known for their excessive nationalism this is in turn due to its colonial history and it's past cultural and geopolitical importance. Also currently India has been doing relatively well economically and geopolitically which has led to increased nationalism.
C. Shared history - Indian subcontinent especially South Asia has a shared history, the large empires of the past more or less covered the whole of current India for large period of times, this led to symbiosis of cultures.
D. Shared interests on global stage - India is geopolitically relevant due to its location, educated workforce, growing military and population which the world deems suitable to its needs right now. That's why Iran/Israel, Russia/USA and to an extent North Korea/South Korea too trusted Indians to be lead the peacekeeping and medical station units during the the Korean wars.
E. Independent different wings of sovereign - I.e. The administration, legislation and judiciary. All 3 have separate domains and powers but the judiciary has powers to stop the administration from using extra judicial powers. Remember the police force, army units, Central units are loyal to the country not to any party or ideology in India that's why there hasn't been an army led coup in India.
F. Relatively Stable country - as in geographically, financially. Let me list all the disturbances in India right now, there was a quote I read somewhere that at a given point of time there are like 20 internal disturbances in India, you can count Maoism, some remaining groups in North east, Terrorism activities in this. Post 26/11 India strengthened its defence capabilities including reconnaissance and intelligence mainly coast guard and given the fragile state or Pakistan right now it can't sponsor activities like it used to. Thus Terrorism is at a all time low, terrorists cells are actively hunted by intelligence agencies in their dormant stage nowadays.
Maoism is not as prevalent as it once used to me, in thin stretches of Chattisgarh and some forest regions they still exist but it's an ever diminishing figure. Maoism has its historical roots as being affected by Chinese ideology or take on socialism. The poor and rural regions of India especially tribals have long been neglected by the Central Government, alongwith onset of capitalism where the bourgeoisie ie. Capitalist class began ,mining works and buying forest regions for building apartments and stuff this led to the non political tribals to form a resistance movement. This was the historical aspect by the way currently the ideology is waning, China and USSR the propogators of original socialism lost the ideology war. Plus Indian government has a unique policy when it comes to maoists the army and stuff like choppers are not used in combing operation stage reason being the "insurgents" are Indians and have suffered due to historical ills, we use CRPF personnelf for these operations. Plus due to govt policies, education and police presence in once abandoned villages the maoist groups have lost their recruitment locations. Maoists are offered the choice to surrender and join the mainstream (obvious depending from case to case on the severity of their crimes). Thus Maoism is being eradicated.
Kashmir insurgency also has been suppressed mostly mainly Pakistan is no position to directly support militancy there.

 

[Sam6536]

Your cultural fabric point is not valid and also you list casteism as an breaking point let me try to explain that aspect. A problem festers if you leave the affected class without providing any remedy. But in India through affirmative action the constitution guarantees the protection of rights and provision of reservation for the historically backward classes. Muslims wanted an separate electorate within Indian Republic this was one of the demands of Muslim league to stay within India, this was rejected by Nehrus's Congress, Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar once demanded the same for backward classes but fearing further sub division Poona pact was signed which accorded affirmative rights for backward classes.
Does casteism still exist in some places? Yes. Do people still marry in their caste? Mostly yes but there are various contravention to this my family itself has had inter caste marriages. The social stigma and moral fabric is slowly being broken. Arranged marriages which is currently the norm is mostly in caste but love marriages vary a lot even being inter religion.
Education, upward social mobility, equal representation is the way for casteism to end, the progress is on a upward trajectory right now. The law is positive on the matter the execution, corruption and illiterate mindset is the problem but it can be countered and it is many cases.

 

[hussain0216]

Say's a Pakistani
If only PDF was the real world. Pakistan would be top dog everywhere! Economy, Army, Soft power, Hard power!

Alas, too much laal topi and mental mas*****bation thinking about breaking India up has made you folks go nuts.

India was a mistake

Indians HATE EACH OTHER,, Indians hate each other MORE then we hate hindus and that's saying something

Putting these hatefiled enemy populations in one shit communal state was retarded beyond belief

As hindutva poison spreads, as Indian Muslims and Sikhs and others start to become hardened against a Hindu enemy then partition is inevitable


Partition is ALREADY happening, Indians are economically boycotting each other and moving to their own areas

Their is nothing you can do about it
Your crying and moaning and whataboutism is POINTLESS


Simply because the hate amongst Indians is too much and no one will take millions of indians

 

[Paitoo]

I will need a lot of visas to visit my relatives. The idiots are scattered all over the place.

 

[Hephaestus]

India was a mistake

Indians HATE EACH OTHER,, Indians hate each other MORE then we hate hindus and that's saying something

Putting these hatefiled enemy populations in one shit communal state was retarded beyond belief

As hindutva poison spreads, as Indian Muslims and Sikhs and others start to become hardened against a Hindu enemy then partition is inevitable


Partition is ALREADY happening, Indians are economically boycotting each other and moving to their own areas

Their is nothing you can do about it
Your crying and moaning and whataboutism is POINTLESS


Simply because the hate amongst Indians is too much and no one will take millions of indians

Some ranting this! This fellow is telling Indians why Indians hate other Indians while Sunni's killing Shia's inside their mosques in Pakistan.

Baloch killing fellow muslim PA en-masse & getting killed en-masse. Everyone killing Ahmaddiya's

Before your dream of India breaking up. You will lose Pakhtunistan and GB. Get up & smell the coffee!

 

[-=virus=-]

India was a mistake

Indians HATE EACH OTHER,, Indians hate each other MORE then we hate hindus and that's saying something

Putting these hatefiled enemy populations in one shit communal state was retarded beyond belief

As hindutva poison spreads, as Indian Muslims and Sikhs and others start to become hardened against a Hindu enemy then partition is inevitable


Partition is ALREADY happening, Indians are economically boycotting each other and moving to their own areas

Their is nothing you can do about it
Your crying and moaning and whataboutism is POINTLESS


Simply because the hate amongst Indians is too much and no one will take millions of indians

Jamahirhussain.. Kabhi kuch naya bhi bola karo

Aapke record ki sui damage hai kya ?

Ek hi baat dauraye ja rhe ho saalo salon se.

 

[hussain0216]

Some ranting this! This fellow is telling Indians why Indians hate other Indians while Sunni's killing Shia's inside their mosques in Pakistan.

Baloch killing fellow muslim PA en-masse & getting killed en-masse. Everyone killing Ahmaddiya's

Before your dream of India breaking up. You will lose Pakhtunistan and GB. Get up & smell the coffee!

Again whataboutism,, Sunnis are fine with Shia, if some extremist carries out a act how does that define 250 million Pakistani?


The problem in India is different,, their is WIDE SCALE HATRED amongst the populations


I may not agree with Afghans, I may even get angry or hate them at times, but I do not want them destroyed


The hatred I have for Hindus is different, it's visceral,, I am fine with seeing Hindus EXTERMINATED


That's the difference

The hatred Indians have for each other is on par with my hatred for Hindus

And a state with this much internal hatred cannot survive

 

[Hephaestus]

The hatred I have for Hindus is different, it's visceral,, I am fine with seeing Hindus EXTERMINATED

Yes, I know. The turkic did their job well 500 years ago with your ancestors!