What's new

Western Fake News Galore: How is New York Times still publishing articles on China?

ohmrlobalobayeh

SENIOR MEMBER
Mar 24, 2012
3,360
-23
5,996
Country
Indonesia
Location
Indonesia
when it has been banned from China????

Mar 17, 2020 - World

China bans journalists from 3 major U.S. newspapers
1584464022159.jpg

The Chinese government announced Tuesday that it will revoke press credentials for American journalists who work for the New York Times, Washington Post and Wall Street Journal and whose credentials were set to expire in 2020, retaliating for state media restrictions by the Trump administration.

Why it matters: It's an escalation of a media war — in the midst of a global pandemic — that will result in U.S. journalists effectively being expelled from China. The journalists will not be permitted to work in Hong Kong or Macao, which is typically what blacklisted journalists have done in the past.

Context: The State Department announced last month that it designated five Chinese state media outlets as "foreign missions," meaning they will be treated as arms of the Chinese government.

  • Around the same time, China revoked the press credentials of three Beijing-based Wall Street Journal journalists and ordered them to leave the country within five days, in response to an opinion piece headlined: "China is the Real Sick Man of Asia."
  • In March, the State Department announced a cap of 100 on the number of Chinese citizens who could be employed in the U.S. for five state-owned media outlets. The reduction from the current total of 160 meant that 60 Chinese nationals would have to leave the country.
Details:

  1. In retaliation for the five Chinese media agencies that the U.S. listed as "foreign missions," China will require five U.S. media outlets — Voice of America, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post and Time — to submit written reports of their staff, finances, operations and real estate in China.
  2. In retaliation for the U.S. expelling employees of Chinese media agencies, the American reporters who work for the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post must hand over their press credentials within 10 days. In the future, they will not be allowed to work in the People's Republic of China, including Hong Kong and Macao.
  3. In retaliation for visa restrictions the U.S. imposed on Chinese journalists working for state media, China will take "reciprocal measures" against American journalists.
Between the lines: The Ministry of Foreign Affairs statement echoes the language of reciprocity that the U.S. State Department used to justify the media restrictions it adopted in February.

  • However, the U.S. restrictions targeted Chinese state-run media, which are widely recognized as propaganda outlets. With the exception of Voice of America, the U.S. outlets affected by new Chinese restrictions are private.
 
new articles on China by NYT. If they cant report on the field in China, how are they coming up with articles like these????

:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/business/economy/coronavirus-china-economy-stimulus.html

While the World Spends on Coronavirus Bailouts, China Holds Back
Beijing has tried to protect jobs and spur lending, but it may have to do more to get its huge, damaged and incredibly complex economy going again.

  • April 9, 2020
阅读简体中文版閱讀繁體中文版



By Keith Bradsher


BEIJING — The world is opening its wallet to fight the effects of the coronavirus outbreak. The United States unveiled a $2 trillion rescue package. European countries have announced their own spending blitz, and Japan approved a nearly $1 trillion economic stimulus plan.

Then there’s China.

The country that famously helped kick-start the world economy after the 2008 global financial crisis with a half-a-trillion-dollar spending splurge has been relatively restrained this time around. While it is helping companies keep workers and pushing its state-run banks to lend more, China has held back from spending on big packages or flooding its financial system with money.

In an odd juxtaposition, the communist country has also mostly refrained from giving money directly to its people. By contrast, President Trump — who once denounced the prospect of growing socialism in the United States — signed into law a package that includes $1,200 checks for all but the most affluent American adults.

A growing number of people say China should do more. Prominent economists are calling on Beijing to get the country’s consumers spending again. At least seven provinces and cities are already distributing vouchers to empower spenders.















April 7, 2020

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/07/world/asia/china-tycoon-coronavirus.html

China Investigates Critic of Xi’s Coronavirus Response

The decision to investigate the tycoon, Ren Zhiqiang, reflects broad unease in the government about growing criticism of its early efforts to conceal the outbreak.

By JAVIER C. HERNÁNDEZ








April 5, 2020

Chinese Human Rights Lawyer Released From Prison


Wang Quanzhang, who took up sensitive cases, had been sentenced in China to four and a half years for “subversion of state power.”

By AUSTIN RAMZY
 
Last edited:
From China's official Foreign Ministry's website:

https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/xwfw_665399/s2510_665401/t1757162.shtml

In recent years, the US government has placed unwarranted restrictions on Chinese media agencies and personnel in the US, purposely made things difficult for their normal reporting assignments, and subjected them to growing discrimination and politically-motivated oppression. For instance, in December 2018, the US ordered certain Chinese media organizations in the US to register as "foreign agents"; in February 2020, it designated five Chinese media entities in the US as "foreign missions" and imposed a cap on the number of their employees, in effect expelling Chinese journalists from the US. Such outrageous treatment prompted strong representations from China, in which China firmly objected to and strongly condemned the US move, and stressed its reserved right to respond and take actions.

China hereby announces the following measures, effective immediately:

First, in response to the US designation of five Chinese media agencies as "foreign missions", China demands, in the spirit of reciprocity, that the China-based branches of Voice of America, the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post and Time declare in written form information about their staff, finance, operation and real estate in China.

Second, in response to the US slashing the staff size of Chinese media outlets in the US, which is expulsion in all but name, China demands that journalists of US citizenship working with the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post whose press credentials are due to expire before the end of 2020 notify the Department of Information of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs within four calendar days starting from today and hand back their press cards within ten calendar days. They will not be allowed to continue working as journalists in the People's Republic of China, including its Hong Kong and Macao Special Administrative Regions.

Third, in response to the discriminatory restrictions the US has imposed on Chinese journalists with regard to visa, administrative review and reporting, China will take reciprocal measures against American journalists.

The above-mentioned measures are entirely necessary and reciprocal countermeasures that China is compelled to take in response to the unreasonable oppression the Chinese media organizations experience in the US. They are legitimate and justified self-defense in every sense. What the US has done is exclusively targeting Chinese media organizations, and hence driven by a Cold War mentality and ideological bias. It has seriously tarnished the reputation and image of Chinese media organizations, seriously affected their normal operation in the US, and seriously disrupted people-to-people and cultural exchanges between the two countries. It has therefore exposed the hypocrisy of the self-styled advocate of press freedom. China urges the US to immediately change course, undo the damage, and stop its political oppression and arbitrary restrictions on Chinese media organizations. Should the US choose to go further down the wrong path, it could expect more countermeasures from China.

China's fundamental state policy of opening-up has not changed and will not change. Foreign media organizations and journalists who cover stories in accordance with laws and regulations are always welcome in China, and will get continued assistance from our side. What we reject is ideological bias against China, fake news made in the name of press freedom, and breaches of ethics in journalism. We call on foreign media outlets and journalists to play a positive role in advancing the mutual understanding between China and the rest of the world.
 
Last edited:
the same way they published horse manure on the Iraqi WMDs!
can somebody explain to me how this dude is still able to come up with articles like this, when he is BANNED from china/HK and Maco?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/business/economy/coronavirus-china-economy-stimulus.html

While the World Spends on Coronavirus Bailouts, China Holds Back
Beijing has tried to protect jobs and spur lending, but it may have to do more to get its huge, damaged and incredibly complex economy going again.

  • April 9, 2020
阅读简体中文版閱讀繁體中文版



By Keith Bradsher


BEIJING — The world is opening its wallet to fight the effects of the coronavirus outbreak. The United States unveiled a $2 trillion rescue package. European countries have announced their own spending blitz, and Japan approved a nearly $1 trillion economic stimulus plan.

Then there’s China.

The country that famously helped kick-start the world economy after the 2008 global financial crisis with a half-a-trillion-dollar spending splurge has been relatively restrained this time around. While it is helping companies keep workers and pushing its state-run banks to lend more, China has held back from spending on big packages or flooding its financial system with money.

In an odd juxtaposition, the communist country has also mostly refrained from giving money directly to its people. By contrast, President Trump — who once denounced the prospect of growing socialism in the United States — signed into law a package that includes $1,200 checks for all but the most affluent American adults.

A growing number of people say China should do more. Prominent economists are calling on Beijing to get the country’s consumers spending again. At least seven provinces and cities are already distributing vouchers to empower spenders.





author-keith-bradsher-thumbLarge.png

Keith Bradsher
Keith Bradsher is the Pulitzer Prize-winning Shanghai bureau chief for The New York Times, having reopened the Shanghai bureau in 2016. He has previously served as the Hong Kong bureau chief and the Detroit bureau chief for The Times. Before those postings, he was a Washington correspondent for The Times covering the Federal Reserve and international trade, and a New York-based business reporter covering transportation and telecommunications for The Times.

Born in 1964, Mr. Bradsher received a degree in economics from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, where he was a Morehead scholar. He received a master’s degree in public policy with a concentration in economics from the Woodrow Wilson School at Princeton University. Before joining The Times, Mr. Bradsher wrote for The Los Angeles Times from 1987 until 1989.

Less


same for this dude- he's not there on the field, so how does he thinks he's qualified to report on China if he's not there himself(working at least in the capacity of a journalist)?:

April 5, 2020
Chinese Human Rights Lawyer Released From Prison


Wang Quanzhang, who took up sensitive cases, had been sentenced in China to four and a half years for “subversion of state power.”

By AUSTIN RAMZY


author-austin-ramzy-facebookJumbo.png
 
Yet another one:


headshot.jpg

Javier C. Hernández is a China correspondent for The New York Times based in Beijing. Since joining The Times in 2008, he has covered education, financial markets and New York City politics.



h
ow does he think he's qualified to report all these, if he's not there in china, working in the capacity of a journalist?

April 7, 2020
China Investigates Critic of Xi’s Coronavirus Response
The decision to investigate the tycoon, Ren Zhiqiang, reflects broad unease in the government about growing criticism of its early efforts to conceal the outbreak.

By JAVIER C. HERNÁNDEZ

阅读简体中文版閱讀繁體中文版
 
imrs.php

Washington, D.C.
Foreign reporter who writes about a variety of subjectsEducation: University of Manchester, BA in economics with a focus on international relations; Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism, MAAdam Taylor writes about foreign affairs for The Washington Post. Originally from London, he studied
at the University of Manchester and Columbia University.


This reporter and his fellow American colleagues from Washington Post r banned from China, yet comes up with such articles- on China. how is he able to publish this, if he's not there on the field himself. In fact it looks more like an opinion piece, but is manipulated to look like 1 that is based on atual fact-reporting

What gives?







China’s investigative journalists offer a fraught glimpse behind Beijing’s coronavirus propaganda

China has placed enormous pressure on foreign journalists during the novel coronavirus crisis. Bureaus have emptied as U.S. citizens have been forced out, while international travel restrictions have kept journalists from reentering the country.

But if Beijing’s intention was to limit scrutiny of its coronavirus response, it has only partially succeeded. Some of the most damning reporting on the pandemic has come from Chinese organizations, which are taking great risks in one of the world’s most restrictive media environments.

“The truth is that the Chinese Communist Party leadership regards any reporting of the facts as ultimately a threat to the stability of the regime,” said David Bandurski, co-director of the China Media Project.


Last week, Caixin, a Beijing-based publication known for political investigations, published a story that questioned the official coronavirus death count in Wuhan, the Chinese epicenter of the outbreak. “In virus-ravaged Wuhan, hours-long queues to collect the ashes of the dead,” ran the headline of an English translation.

Officially, the death toll in Wuhan has stalled at a little over 2,500, a detail repeatedly highlighted by China’s Foreign Ministry. But something didn’t add up, Caixin noted: One local crematorium in the city was operating for 19 hours a day and in just two days, 5,000 urns were delivered to the establishment.


Sign up for our Coronavirus Updates newsletter to track the outbreak. All stories linked in the newsletter are free to access.

Foreign media outlets, including The Washington Post and many others, picked up on the details. Radio Free Asia, a publication funded by the U.S. government, extrapolated further, suggesting that as many as 42,000 could have died in the city.


For Caixin, it was just the latest in a string of critical coronavirus stories, some of which included criticism of China’s slow reaction in the early days of the outbreak, while others warned that asymptomatic case appeared to still be spreading in Wuhan.


The work has brought Caixin further international attention: In recent days, the publication has been highlighted by voices as diverse as Turkish academic Zeynep Tufekci and Republican Sen. John Cornyn of Texas.



Senator John Cornyn

✔@JohnCornyn

· Apr 6, 2020
"The coronavirus outbreak began in Wuhan, China, sometime in the autumn, perhaps as early as November. It accelerated in December.


Senator John Cornyn

✔@JohnCornyn


Caixin Global reported that Chinese labs had sequenced the coronavirus genome by the end of December but were ordered by Chinese officials to destroy samples and not publish their findings." https://www.wsj.com/articles/world-health-coronavirus-disinformation-11586122093?mod=MorningEditorialReport&mod=djemMER_h …


Opinion | World Health Coronavirus Disinformation
WHO’s bows to Beijing have harmed the global response to the pandemic.


1,611 people are talking about this
But in China, international praise can be a burden. This week on Weibo, China’s version of Twitter, the cover of Caixin Weekly magazine prompted angry responses from those who saw it as an attack on China. Users accused founder Hu Shuli of smearing the country’s reputation.

Undertaking independent journalism in China has long required a delicate balance. Chinese reporters aren’t reliant on visas like foreigners, but they face other risks: At least 48 Chinese journalists were jailed last year, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists, the most of any nation.

Meanwhile, to be a commercial success, private outlets must face two conflicting factors: a state that wants to restrict access to the truth and an audience that knows when they are lied to. “We walk on a tightrope,” Liu Changle, the Chinese media tycoon behind the quasi-independent Phoenix TV, told The Post in 2005.

Some independent news outlets were able to push the envelope when Hu Jintao led the country from 2002 to 2012. Publications like Caijing, the first magazine founded by Caixin’s Hu, and the Southern Metropolis Daily published major investigations into the SARS virus outbreak and police brutality, among other topics.

But they remained restricted by China’s Central Propaganda Department and required a government-affiliated sponsor. The restrictions increased after Xi Jinping took over in 2013, leading the country in an aggressively nationalist direction.

Caixin, which Hu founded after leaving Caijing in 2013, has been able to navigate China’s media landscape better than most. Some attribute this to Hu’s savvy and personal connections — she comes from a line of Communist Party intellectuals and maintains a friendship with Wang Qishan, China’s vice president.

A 2009 New Yorker profile noted that Hu lived in an elite compound favored by government media workers. Yaxue Cao, a Washington-based activist, said Caixin couldn’t truly be considered independent because of Hu’s connections. “Instead of independence, it’s a privilege,” Cao said.

But even Caixin found some topics difficult to touch — it has not covered the persecution of Uighurs in Xinjiang with the intensity of foreign media outlets, for example. “They know better than anyone where the lines are,” said Bill Bishop, author of the Sinocism newsletter.

AD
The early weeks of China’s outbreak saw a remarkable push by independent journalists. Yuan Zeng, a scholar at the University of Leeds, pointed to a variety of outlets like China Youth Daily, YiMagazine and Sanlian Lifeweek that published investigative reports that scrutinized the official version of events.


Most of these reports were in Chinese and many were deleted by censors, but some have been translated into English, such as China News Weekly’s Feb. 10 cover story: “How China missed the critical window for controlling the coronavirus outbreak.” The China Media Project has excerpted a series by People magazine that interviewed front-line health-care workers.

Those who track Chinese journalism now think the state has clamped down again. “At this point, most of the critical or investigative reporting on this topic has been silenced,” said Maria Repnikova, a Georgia State University professor, who predicted such a clampdown in early February.


On social media, where there had been a groundswell of outrage following the death of whistleblower doctor Li Wenliang, critical voices have dwindled as citizen journalists were arrested, said King-wa Fu of the University of Hong Kong.

These shifts can leave independent outlets stuck in an awkward position. The Chinese government seems to be allowing some journalism if it aligns with Beijing’s domestic narrative about the outbreak that blames local officials. But this narrative conflicts with the cruder international message.

“The domestic narrative is all about: ‘Yes, mistakes were made at the beginning by the bad, bad, incompetent local people,’” said Bishop. “And globally, of course, it’s: ‘We did everything we could and we bought some time and even now we’re trying to save the world.’ It’s a pretty huge contradiction.”

Neither Hu nor Caixin editor Wang Shuo responded to requests to discuss their coronavirus coverage; other Caixin journalists would not speak on the record. Though Caixin has withstood many previous crackdowns, its increasingly high profile puts it at risk. “Caixin is not immune,” Zeng said.


Despite Caixin’s newfound popularity in American political circles, the United States and China remain locked in a standoff that often targets journalists. At a news conference on Monday, President Trump grilled a reporter from Phoenix TV, which is privately owned but pro-Beijing.


David Nakamura

✔@DavidNakamura

· Apr 7, 2020
Replying to @DavidNakamura
Asked if he is personally working w/China to combat coronavirus, Trump says: "We just signed a trade deal. It's the biggest trade deal probably ever made. I hope they're going to honor that trade deal. If they don't honor that trade deal, then I'll tell you a different answer."


David Nakamura

✔@DavidNakamura
Trump demands of the reporter: "Who are you working for, China? Are you working for China or a newspaper?" She replies Phoenix TV of Hong Kong. Trump: "Is that owned by the state?" She says it's privately owned.


30
6:37 AM - Apr 7, 2020
Twitter Ads info and privacy
See David Nakamura's other Tweets
In February, right-wing pundits argued that Caixin’s D.C. correspondent should be kicked out of the country after she asked a question at a news conference.

It is remarkable that China’s independent journalists can operate under such conditions, let alone still publish groundbreaking work. “What’s frustrating is what they could do if they weren’t constrained,” Bishop said. “You can see glimpses of the awesome potential.”

They know it, too. On a recent podcast discussing their work in Wuhan, Caixin reporter Gao Yu suggested his team had uncovered up to 80 percent of what happened — but they had only been able to publish 40 percent at most.
 
Last edited:
American journalists at mainstream media are CIA agents working as journalists.
yup. posing as journalists as a cover

yup. posing as journalists as a cover
there was 1 video in Hk that best demonstrates this- let me go dig it out

yup. posing as journalists as a cover


there was 1 video in Hk that best demonstrates this- let me go dig it out
here:

look at that masked caucasian 'journalist' @0:55
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Total: 2, Members: 0, Guests: 2)


Back
Top Bottom