We had to take defensive measures at all times after the Balakot strike: Air Marshal Nohwar

[Safriz]

This is all a step by step process of influencing public opinion to get a 2nd tranche of Rafales.

Yaar 30 Rafale kiyaa ukhaar lein gey?
Jabb 250 SU-30 Fail ho gaey?

 

[randomradio]

Yaar 30 Rafale kiyaa ukhaar lein gey?
Jabb 250 SU-30 Fail ho gaey?

Think about the story this way. MKI did not get shot down, but Mig-21 shot down F-16.

Anyway, even if 1 MKI got shot down, it was just 1 skirmish. When it comes to aircraft of similar generation, you win some, you lose some.

Regardless Rafale numbers are necessary to climb to 72 over the next few years, especially considering China in the mix, and the Rafales are needed to take out SAM sites. So it doesn't change anything anyway.

 

[Safriz]

Think about the story this way. MKI did not get shot down, but Mig-21 shot down F-16.

Anyway, even if 1 MKI got shot down, it was just 1 skirmish. When it comes to aircraft of similar generation, you win some, you lose some.

Regardless Rafale numbers are necessary to climb to 72 over the next few years, especially considering China in the mix, and the Rafales are needed to take out SAM sites. So it doesn't change anything anyway.

Chalou aanay Dou Rafale..
Hamaray waloon kou bhii J-31 Khareednay Kii wajah Mill jaey gii

 

[American Pakistani]

I'm sure they want to hide their incompetence and want to exploit more resources from gullible awaam of India. If only Pakistan had 50 billion $ defense budget.

 

[The Eagle]

In current situation, such statements serves two purposes as 1) for support of Rafale & forcing Indian SC to back down 2) just tell that how PAF owned the battle while IAF was helpless.......... just because this is election time, issue confession & then direct online media trolls to sugar coat the same as a political stunt/Rafale love so the people will get used to it and forget what really happened. Bravo strategy in these times.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

see @pakistanipower WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT? BVR and i told u that it was a record distance BVR kill of Su30MKI

Can't say about Su30 unless we get some evidence, but About mig 21,It was very close dog fight even enemy chased us and we shot it down. I am ruling out BVR, It was WVR fight.

 

[randomradio]

Chalou aanay Dou Rafale..
Hamaray waloon kou bhii J-31 Khareednay Kii wajah Mill jaey gii

I don't mind at all. You should do your best to keep up with India's modernisation. You have my full support.

In current situation, such statements serves two purposes as 1) for support of Rafale & forcing Indian SC to back down

These should have been 2 separate points. This is for supporting the Rafales, indeed. But this in no way interferes with the SC process. The SC will quash this petition also.

2) just tell that how PAF owned the battle while IAF was helpless.......... just because this is election time, issue confession & then direct online media trolls to sugar coat the same as a political stunt/Rafale love so the people will get used to it and forget what really happened. Bravo strategy in these times.

The story is we wouldn't have lost Mig-21 had it been for Rafales. But we know that in real life, even with Rafale, the Mig-21 would have been shot down anyway, in the same scenario.

 

[The Eagle]

These should have been 2 separate points. This is for supporting the Rafales, indeed. But this in no way interferes with the SC process. The SC will quash this petition also.

Never rush to reply for the sack of reply only...

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...-stand-on-rafale-papers.613027/#post-11361172

 

[monitor]

We had to take defensive measures at all times after the Balakot strike as the Pakistani air force had greater BVR missile capabilities - Air Marshal Nohwar.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1115955320877191168

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1115937442597457925

so he is telling all 272 SU-30 MKI is non BVR ? his statement seems to trying to get more fund for embezzlement.

 

[war&peace]

Apparently, this tweet somewhat goes against the present government. It implies, though very subtly, that the Balakot strikes were carried out, without giving due considerations to its implications.

Basically they were surprised, shocked

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

The story is we wouldn't have lost Mig-21 had it been for Rafales. But we know that in real life, even with Rafale, the Mig-21 would have been shot down anyway, in the same scenario.

What about two fronts war?.Majority indian said here su30 & Rafale were for china only, while upgraded mig2000, Jaguars, Mig29, mig27 & upgraded mig 21 were enough against Pakistan 3.5 and 4 gen fighters.

 

[SIPRA]

What about two fronts war?.Majority indian said here su30 & Rafale were for china only, while upgraded mig2000, Jaguars, Mig29, mig27 & upgraded mig 21 were enough against Pakistan 3.5 and 4 gen fighters.

I don't believe that India can even remotely think of having any armed conflict with China, in coming future. Even this idea would be very frightening for them. What is left, is Pakistan and that appears to be the key target.

 

[randomradio]

Never rush to reply for the sack of reply only...

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...-stand-on-rafale-papers.613027/#post-11361172

I am indeed referring to the above. There's nothing to implicate anyone of any wrongdoing in these papers.

What about two fronts war?.Majority indian said here su30 & Rafale were for china only, while upgraded mig2000, Jaguars, Mig29, mig27 & upgraded mig 21 were enough against Pakistan 3.5 and 4 gen fighters.

That's stupid. That's not how we have divided our forces.

Chinese presence on the Indian border is very limited, so most of our air force is pointed towards Pakistan. Only recently, PLAAF forces have climbed to about 50 operational jets on the border. And only recently have the Chinese started making their air bases operational, after Doklam.

And, due to mid air refuelling, pretty much the entire air force can be used on both fronts.

 

[The Eagle]

I am indeed referring to the above. There's nothing to implicate anyone of any wrongdoing in these papers.

Vote for Modi... Good.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Can't say about Su30 unless we get some evidence, but About mig 21,It was very close dog fight even enemy chased us and we shot it down. I am ruling out BVR, It was WVR fight.

Mig was shot down in WVR by Pl5EII missile and Su30 in BVR with SD10A.