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NEW DELHI: Even as Indian and US warships kicked off their Malabar combat exercise in the west Pacific on Saturday, in yet another indicator of their ever-expanding defence ties, New Delhi continues to stonewall Washington's persistent attempts to get it to ink "foundational'' military agreements as well as join the Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI).

There was "simply no headway'' on these agreements both in the discussions held during defence minister A K Antony's visit to US last September as well as the 11th Indo-US Defence Policy Group (DPG) meeting held in Washington last month, say officials.

The UPA government, with an eye also on domestic political sensitivities, remains largely unconvinced about the "utility and benefits'' of the Logistics Support Agreement (LSA), Communication Interoperability and Security Memorandum Agreement (CISMOA) and Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement for Geo-Spatial Cooperation.

The latest tranche of US embassy cables, made public by WikiLeaks, in fact, also show how an anxious Washington over the last several years has tried to push these agreements but failed to get anywhere. This despite LSA being touted as a mutually beneficial and cost-effective arrangement to provide logistical support for each other's armed forces, with CISMOA and BECA serving as "sensitive technology'' enablers.

But Indian armed forces, with Antony himself leading from the front, do not want to be "tied down to only one (US) system''.

Wargames fine but no more: India to US - The Times of India
 
The latest tranche of US embassy cables, made public by WikiLeaks, in fact, also show how an anxious Washington over the last several years has tried to push these agreements but failed to get anywhere.
lol Bad try!!! US don't understand the reality. India and America will be strategic ally and will cooperate but no more, there will be distances as we have many difference in our interests and views.
 
The thought which comes to my mind at this instant is, US is trying to bring INDIA under some pseudo non proliferation and a virtual CTBT pact. Then India won't be able to test any more nuclear weapons if it needed. Then playing on the hysteria, that Indian explosions didn't yield as claimed, India would feel insecure by Chinese military developments, and ultimately India will into US lap. The pacts like Cismoa and Logistics support pact will only ease the fall.

What US will get in return is a long running Horse against China.

May i m being delusional here but thats a sure possibility.
 
I still don't get what the issue is here... other than stupid banter over leaked cable and posturing therafter...
 
In another 20 years, India would either ask to join the US lead western alliance or give up territory to join the China/Russia lead anti US camp. I wonder which side would India choose, give up territory or join the western democracies to help promote world peace.
 
In another 20 years, India would either ask to join the US lead western alliance or give up territory to join the China/Russia lead anti US camp. I wonder which side would India choose, give up territory or join the western democracies to help promote world peace.

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answer= hopefully not on your stuck on stupid analogy...
 
In another 20 years, India would either ask to join the US lead western alliance or give up territory to join the China/Russia lead anti US camp. I wonder which side would India choose, give up territory or join the western democracies to help promote world peace.

Or may be US already captured China and no need of alliance!!!! :rofl:
 
In another 20 years, India would either ask to join the US lead western alliance or give up territory to join the China/Russia lead anti US camp. I wonder which side would India choose, give up territory or join the western democracies to help promote world peace.

The economic growth of India and China both will reach the saturation point much quicker than it happened with the western countries. However, in such scenario the sharing of technology and the business at stake will determine the direction that countries take.

It is my opinion that China, the US, Russia, India all of them will spend their resources in promoting peace globally, because the businesses/corporations that will flourish more in a peaceful environment are getting much bigger than the businesses/corporations that flourish in wars.
 
In another 20 years, India would either ask to join the US lead western alliance or give up territory to join the China/Russia lead anti US camp. I wonder which side would India choose, give up territory or join the western democracies to help promote world peace.
For 60 years that didnt happen even in the height of cold war, why now. Sorry we have other ideas. Unless U are an Indian do not give any of ur wet dreams that we should do this, that etc...
 
In another 20 years, India would either ask to join the US lead western alliance or give up territory to join the China/Russia lead anti US camp. I wonder which side would India choose, give up territory or join the western democracies to help promote world peace.

India will go nowhere because by the time India makes a decision the whole war would have been over and one party will be defeated.
 
The economic growth of India and China both will reach the saturation point much quicker than it happened with the western countries. However, in such scenario the sharing of technology and the business at stake will determine the direction that countries take.

It is my opinion that China, the US, Russia, India all of them will spend their resources in promoting peace globally, because the businesses/corporations that will flourish more in a peaceful environment are getting much bigger than the businesses/corporations that flourish in wars.

Uh! I think the biggest corprations in almost all the countries are into defence...how are they supposed to sell if there is no war?
 
Uh! I think the biggest corprations in almost all the countries are into defence...how are they supposed to sell if there is no war?

They were the biggest businesses (weapons) at one time. And that is why wars were there. Even cold war that was not fought on the ground, lasted for decades, and those dealing in arms had their Christmas all the while.

But now corporations dealing in businesses that are harmed by the acts of war are gaining momentum. It (the momentum) is still in the process but you can clearly see the signs - The insurance companies gaining power are pressing the governments all over the world to impose heavy taxes on tobacco consumption. Another example of ever rising high per capita income of the world (with PPP) that is creating the largest possible consumer base that can be sustained only when there is peace all around. This consumer base is also becoming a bigger market for construction related goods, such as metals and minerals, and is successfully competing against the warring forces (that consume the same goods) to become the bigger market.
 
In my point of view it is time to strengthen Asian countries cooperation economically & strategically, what success US gain....keep away Asians in formation of alliance like NATO, once again i am supporting Indian active participation in SCO in securing long term economic & strategic perspectives.

Pakistan against India, India against China & visa versa, what we got from this?
Conflicts could be expand unlimited but this is time when China & India has to understand regional responsibilities in seek of peace rather than war.

US is gradually tightening grip on India by many tricks, where LSA & CISMOA follows these tricks.
In first step mutual cooperation between India-US well on economical development but military scenario doesn't justify US real interests in context of MILITARY CO OPERATION.
 
In my point of view it is time to strengthen Asian countries cooperation economically & strategically, what success US gain....keep away Asians in formation of alliance like NATO, once again i am supporting Indian active participation in SCO in securing long term economic & strategic perspectives.

Pakistan against India, India against China & visa versa, what we got from this?
Conflicts could be expand unlimited but this is time when China & India has to understand regional responsibilities in seek of peace rather than war.

US is gradually tightening grip on India by many tricks, where LSA & CISMOA follows these tricks.
In first step mutual cooperation between India-US well on economical development but military scenario doesn't justify US real interests in context of MILITARY CO OPERATION.


India is not sure if SCO will actually serve indian interests with china in a lead role along with pakistan which will do everything in its power to use china against india.

i think india is doing fine by not joining any camps... we have to be armed enough that we can withstand any aggressor china. pak..sco or nato... just ensure our own defence and we cannot be coerced into joining any camps... non-alligned movement v2...
 

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