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USS Georgia submarine, armed with 154 Tomahawk missiles, operating near Ukraine

Option -1: Let's enter the Black Sea

According to the Montreux Convention, states bordering the black sea have the right to use the straits to transfer their submarines, which they have built or purchased outside this sea, to their bases, provided that Turkiye is informed beforehand. In addition, the bordering Black Sea states' right to use the Straits for the purpose of crossing their submarines for repair their ships into outside of the Black Sea shipyards is also recorded in the convention. Submarines should make their strait passages on the water surface and under the guidance of pilot ships.

Non-bordering state navies cannot enter with submarines into the Black Sea. Likewise, warships with a total displacement of more than 15,000 tons and aircraft carriers cannot pass through the straits.

Apart from these, in accordance with Montreux, both the USA and Russia have to give advance notice to Turkiye in order to pass 'all types of' warships through the Turkish Straits. (This preliminary notification is 1 week for Black Sea littoral countries and 2 weeks for non Black Sea countries.)

Trade Ships can generally pass freely through the Straits. In fact, TR does not have an option to prevent the passage of merchant ships.

Option 2: Using other countries' airspaces:

The NATO Organization treaty is based on 14 fundamental principles: Article 1 states:

"The Parties undertake to resolve any international dispute they may be involved in peacefully without endangering international peace, security and justice, and to refrain from the use or threat of force in their international relations in a manner contrary to the purposes of the United Nations, as set forth in the UN Charter."

Article 4 - All Parties shall consult together when any of them considers that the territorial integrity, political independence or security of one of the Parties is threatened. And article 5, which i think known very-well.

Unless war is declared against one of the NATO states, NATO has declared that in principle it will not be a party to disturb the peace. Unless NATO is actually attacked, US warships cannot use the airspace of other NATO countries without permission to attack a country, regardless of the chain of command.

Option 3: Let's start the 3rd world war with intercontinental ballistic missiles.

- No need to write long... find a shovel and dig as deep as possible.

Ohio class does not need to enter black sea

it can cover half the globe with its trident
 
Will America go to war over Ukraine? And against Russia?
Have we forgotten Russia isn't Iraq Libya or Afghanistan . They can hit back and very very very hard.
White men play these games but they have a school bully mentality. When they know they will be hit back as hard as the hit. They just showboat

US military is overrated, they didn't even confronted russia in syria. Ukraine is
Russia and strong ? only thing they have is nuclear weapons and granted they have ALOT

but they can not be deployed like UK and US deploys them

and balance of power is tilting heavily in favour of UK and US

UK has 4 x Vanguard Submarines each one can carry 16 x Trident missiles with 5-6 re-enrty vehicles each and US + UK has conducted over 180 x Trident tests to validate and revalidate the system

if Russia wants to show its nukes then UK can being 10 times more to the table and US 100 times that

Russia is a sadistic nation which has killed over 1 million Afghans (1980s) and 1 million Syrian (2010s) and 100,000s of Chechens (1990s)

they are the historical enemy of Ottoman Empire and Muslims

so Russia must be stopped

Did you flunked your maths? How can UK and US bring 100 times more nukes on table when they don't have that, and you have said that yourself.

The deployment patterns of nukes differ between Nato which is majority sea based whereas Russia is mostly land based.

Russia being sadistic, and what about US and UK who have flourished the countries of Iraq Libya Afghanistan, Syria with what? Money? Is west friendly to muslims? who makes cartoons in the name of freedom?

Russia must to stopped? how? West is running out of options and time as well.
 
I think this thing is only to make feel safer corrupt and brainless Kiev state.

A tomahawk is absolutely useless against militarily developed countries like Russia.

A tomahawk can't work in a intensive jamming scenario.
 
@waz @The Eagle

I thought changing thread titles is against forum rules?

The OP is a serial rule breaker on changing thread titles. If he is allowed to do it and get away with it then others will change titles when posting threads.
 
and the best part is it can empty its entire canister in under 9 minutes

this is a converted Ohio Class we call it SSGN

this is not the only Ohio Class, a Ohio Boomer SSBN is also in the area and it carry 24 x Trident missiles with 8 re-enrty vehicles

add to that a Royal Navy SSBN the Vanguard Class which is carrying 16 x Trident missiles

the fire power US + UK can bring to the table is literally insane
Then what?
 
@waz @The Eagle

I thought changing thread titles is against forum rules?

The OP is a serial rule breaker on changing thread titles. If he is allowed to do it and get away with it then others will change titles when posting threads.

Navy Sends A Message By Publicizing Guided Missile Submarine's Mediterranean Presence


The U.S. Navy’s Sixth Fleet has offered an unusual public disclosure of the location of USS Georgia (SSGN 729), one of four of the service’s converted Ohio class nuclear-powered guided-missile submarines, or SSGNs, as it conducted a brief stop near the island of Cyprus. These rare disclosures tend to occur at times of heightened international tensions. With the situation in Ukraine quickly approaching an outright crisis, it’s likely that the Navy intended for this glimpse at Georgia to serve as a signal to both allies and Russia that the United States has a highly capable presence in the region that can reach out and strike over long distances with little risk to itself.

The USS Georgia’s appearance was made public on Twitter by U.S. Naval Forces Europe-Africa/U.S. Sixth Fleet. Along with three images of Georgia, the accompanying tweet stated that the visit occurred on January 15 near the city of Limassol. The exact location Georgia visited in Cyprus wasn’t disclosed, but U.S. Naval Forces Europe-Africa/U.S. Sixth Fleet is known to conduct training and logistical operations at Naval Base Lieutenant General Evangelos Florakis in Mari, Cyprus some 16 miles from Limassol.

Georgia’s visit to Cyprus coincides with the ongoing deployment of USS Harry S. Truman, the lead ship of Carrier Strike Group (CSG) 8, to the Mediterranean. In December 2021, U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin ordered the strike group to remain in the Mediterranean instead of carrying out its planned deployment to the Middle East. As of January 18, the carrier strike group was still deployed to the Mediterranean alongside a Royal Norwegian Navy frigate. An unnamed official told USNI News that the decision was made in order to reassure European allies of U.S. commitment to regional security.


This isn’t the first time the Navy has publicized the presence of one of its prized Ohio class guided missile submarines, but the occasions are far and few between.

USS Michigan (SSGN 727) famously made a high-profile visit to South Korea in 2017 at the height of U.S.-North Korean tensions, when the Kim Regime threatened a missile launch toward Guam.

In 2019, the Navy released images of the USS Florida (SSGN 728) as it operated in an undisclosed location in the Mediterranean while the Russians were operating their own naval task force in the region.

USS Georgia made another highly publicized appearance in December 2020 when it passed through the Strait of Hormuz alongside two Ticonderoga class cruisers, USS Port Royal and USS Philippine Sea, amid a spike in tensions between the United States and Iran.


Strategic appearances of other types of submarines occur as well. Last year, the Navy released images of the USS Seawolf operating near Norway that was seen as a pointed signal to the Russian Navy's Northern Fleet, as well as images from a 2021 training exercise the Virginia class USS New Mexico conducted in the Mediterranean in which Navy SEALS executed diving operations from the submarine. In June 2021, the USS Alaska, an Ohioclass ballistic missile submarine, or SSBN, made an unusual stop in the British Overseas Territory of Gibraltar to demonstrate U.S. capability in the region and commitment to NATO.

More recently, the Navy published a press release showing several images of the Ohio class USS Nevada (SSBN 733) as it visited Guam, meant to reflect the United States’ commitment to the Indo-Pacific region and a reminder to China and Russia of the immense second-strike deterrent available to the United States at any given time.

Once again, the USS Georgia is one of the Navy’s four SSGNs, Ohio class submarines converted to enable a host of new capabilities. They are some of the most elite and high-demand vessels in the fleet.

The SSGNs were given unique special operations mission centers and mission planning spaces, additional sensor and communication systems, and other modifications to allow them to operate undetected and in shallower waters than their Ohio SSBNs counterparts. Based on statements made by Navy leadership after the large-scale Silent Hammer experiments in 2004, a large focus of the conversion from SSBN to SSGN was to enable these boats to serve as clandestine intelligence-collection platforms.


22 out of the SSGN's 24 missile tubes are now capable of launching up to seven BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missiles rather than the nuclear-armed Trident submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs) fired by Ohio SSBNs, while the remaining two missile tubes were converted lockout chambers for embarked SEALs.

Two dry deck shelters can be installed atop the SSGN's hull while linked to the lockout chambers, allowing Navy SEALs to enter or exit the shelters and deploy and recover swimmer delivery vehiclemini-submarines. It’s possible that more exotic payloads could be adapted for use in these modified missile tubes and dry dock shelters, as well. You can read all about the origins and unique capabilities of the SSGNs in this in-depth War Zone feature.


"By virtue of their concealment and endurance, the SSGN platform forces our adversaries to consider that they could be operating almost anywhere at any time,” then-Vice Admiral John Richardson, Commander of Naval Submarine Forces at the time, said in 2019. “The sensor suite on the boat allows the captain to gather information and intelligence in situ, passing that back to the commander and responding on the spot. When you combine all that with the tremendous combat capability the boat brings – land attack missiles, special forces, torpedoes – that's a lot of bets the enemy has to cover down on.”

Beyond anything else, these submarines' ability to act as invisible arsenal ships, with the ability to haul up to 154 Tomahawk missiles — roughly just over two-thirds of that number are usually carried by most estimates, is what makes them so feared. Each one of those missiles can travel 1,000 miles to its intended target, giving the SSGN a massive standoff attack capability.

In other words, draw a 1000 mile radius circle around an SSGN. Most of the potential targets inside that circle are put at risk when it is present. This means that it can hit targets in Crimea, Ukraine, and Russia with ease while cruising in the Eastern Mediterranean. And that little reminder is very likely what the Navy's little media push was all about.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...ded-missile-submarines-mediterranean-presence
 
Ohio class does not need to enter black sea

it can cover half the globe with its trident
Trident = nuclear war
Tomahawk = airspace violation of countries not party to the US attack (According to UN principles, allowing countries are also on the offensive side)
 
Navy Sends A Message By Publicizing Guided Missile Submarine's Mediterranean Presence


The U.S. Navy’s Sixth Fleet has offered an unusual public disclosure of the location of USS Georgia (SSGN 729), one of four of the service’s converted Ohio class nuclear-powered guided-missile submarines, or SSGNs, as it conducted a brief stop near the island of Cyprus. These rare disclosures tend to occur at times of heightened international tensions. With the situation in Ukraine quickly approaching an outright crisis, it’s likely that the Navy intended for this glimpse at Georgia to serve as a signal to both allies and Russia that the United States has a highly capable presence in the region that can reach out and strike over long distances with little risk to itself.

The USS Georgia’s appearance was made public on Twitter by U.S. Naval Forces Europe-Africa/U.S. Sixth Fleet. Along with three images of Georgia, the accompanying tweet stated that the visit occurred on January 15 near the city of Limassol. The exact location Georgia visited in Cyprus wasn’t disclosed, but U.S. Naval Forces Europe-Africa/U.S. Sixth Fleet is known to conduct training and logistical operations at Naval Base Lieutenant General Evangelos Florakis in Mari, Cyprus some 16 miles from Limassol.

Georgia’s visit to Cyprus coincides with the ongoing deployment of USS Harry S. Truman, the lead ship of Carrier Strike Group (CSG) 8, to the Mediterranean. In December 2021, U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin ordered the strike group to remain in the Mediterranean instead of carrying out its planned deployment to the Middle East. As of January 18, the carrier strike group was still deployed to the Mediterranean alongside a Royal Norwegian Navy frigate. An unnamed official told USNI News that the decision was made in order to reassure European allies of U.S. commitment to regional security.


This isn’t the first time the Navy has publicized the presence of one of its prized Ohio class guided missile submarines, but the occasions are far and few between.

USS Michigan (SSGN 727) famously made a high-profile visit to South Korea in 2017 at the height of U.S.-North Korean tensions, when the Kim Regime threatened a missile launch toward Guam.

In 2019, the Navy released images of the USS Florida (SSGN 728) as it operated in an undisclosed location in the Mediterranean while the Russians were operating their own naval task force in the region.

USS Georgia made another highly publicized appearance in December 2020 when it passed through the Strait of Hormuz alongside two Ticonderoga class cruisers, USS Port Royal and USS Philippine Sea, amid a spike in tensions between the United States and Iran.


Strategic appearances of other types of submarines occur as well. Last year, the Navy released images of the USS Seawolf operating near Norway that was seen as a pointed signal to the Russian Navy's Northern Fleet, as well as images from a 2021 training exercise the Virginia class USS New Mexico conducted in the Mediterranean in which Navy SEALS executed diving operations from the submarine. In June 2021, the USS Alaska, an Ohioclass ballistic missile submarine, or SSBN, made an unusual stop in the British Overseas Territory of Gibraltar to demonstrate U.S. capability in the region and commitment to NATO.

More recently, the Navy published a press release showing several images of the Ohio class USS Nevada (SSBN 733) as it visited Guam, meant to reflect the United States’ commitment to the Indo-Pacific region and a reminder to China and Russia of the immense second-strike deterrent available to the United States at any given time.

Once again, the USS Georgia is one of the Navy’s four SSGNs, Ohio class submarines converted to enable a host of new capabilities. They are some of the most elite and high-demand vessels in the fleet.

The SSGNs were given unique special operations mission centers and mission planning spaces, additional sensor and communication systems, and other modifications to allow them to operate undetected and in shallower waters than their Ohio SSBNs counterparts. Based on statements made by Navy leadership after the large-scale Silent Hammer experiments in 2004, a large focus of the conversion from SSBN to SSGN was to enable these boats to serve as clandestine intelligence-collection platforms.


22 out of the SSGN's 24 missile tubes are now capable of launching up to seven BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missiles rather than the nuclear-armed Trident submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs) fired by Ohio SSBNs, while the remaining two missile tubes were converted lockout chambers for embarked SEALs.

Two dry deck shelters can be installed atop the SSGN's hull while linked to the lockout chambers, allowing Navy SEALs to enter or exit the shelters and deploy and recover swimmer delivery vehiclemini-submarines. It’s possible that more exotic payloads could be adapted for use in these modified missile tubes and dry dock shelters, as well. You can read all about the origins and unique capabilities of the SSGNs in this in-depth War Zone feature.


"By virtue of their concealment and endurance, the SSGN platform forces our adversaries to consider that they could be operating almost anywhere at any time,” then-Vice Admiral John Richardson, Commander of Naval Submarine Forces at the time, said in 2019. “The sensor suite on the boat allows the captain to gather information and intelligence in situ, passing that back to the commander and responding on the spot. When you combine all that with the tremendous combat capability the boat brings – land attack missiles, special forces, torpedoes – that's a lot of bets the enemy has to cover down on.”

Beyond anything else, these submarines' ability to act as invisible arsenal ships, with the ability to haul up to 154 Tomahawk missiles — roughly just over two-thirds of that number are usually carried by most estimates, is what makes them so feared. Each one of those missiles can travel 1,000 miles to its intended target, giving the SSGN a massive standoff attack capability.

In other words, draw a 1000 mile radius circle around an SSGN. Most of the potential targets inside that circle are put at risk when it is present. This means that it can hit targets in Crimea, Ukraine, and Russia with ease while cruising in the Eastern Mediterranean. And that little reminder is very likely what the Navy's little media push was all about.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...ded-missile-submarines-mediterranean-presence

No point replying to me. Altering thread titles are a direct violation of forum rules.
 
Russia and strong ? only thing they have is nuclear weapons and granted they have ALOT

but they can not be deployed like UK and US deploys them

and balance of power is tilting heavily in favour of UK and US

UK has 4 x Vanguard Submarines each one can carry 16 x Trident missiles with 5-6 re-enrty vehicles each and US + UK has conducted over 180 x Trident tests to validate and revalidate the system

if Russia wants to show its nukes then UK can being 10 times more to the table and US 100 times that

Russia is a sadistic nation which has killed over 1 million Afghans (1980s) and 1 million Syrian (2010s) and 100,000s of Chechens (1990s)

they are the historical enemy of Ottoman Empire and Muslims

so Russia must be stopped
Do you what you write? Because the contradictions are so many to be missed by any sane mind.
 

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