USAF Ghostrider • The New AC-130J Gunship

[Nilgiri]

You don't want to be on receiving end of one of these bad boys:

@Vergennes @Hamartia Antidote @gambit @F-22Raptor @Signalian @KAL-EL @LeGenD

 

[bananarepublic]

You don't want to be on receiving end of one of these bad boys:

@Vergennes @Hamartia Antidote @gambit @F-22Raptor @Signalian @KAL-EL @LeGenD

goddammit India why did you have to lobby against Pakistan for these beasts
we could've been using these to bomb talibs on the border.

 

[Bossman]

goddammit India why did you have to lobby against Pakistan for these beasts
we could've been using these to bomb talibs on the border.

They never did any such thing. Theses were never on offer.

 

[bananarepublic]

They never did any such thing. Theses were never on offer.

they actually were.
the AC-130 is a weapon used for COIN operations and beyond that it is pretty much useless for the Pakistan army and Air force.
congress had no problems selling it to Pakistan

 

[Nilgiri]

goddammit India why did you have to lobby against Pakistan for these beasts
we could've been using these to bomb talibs on the border.

Got a source for this one?

 

[Indos]

I think C 130 or CN 235 gunship is more useful and effective for COIN then Supertucano planes. This is why Indonesian aerospace is developing CN 235 for this role.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

goddammit India why did you have to lobby against Pakistan for these beasts
we could've been using these to bomb talibs on the border.

@airomerix

 

[Nilgiri]

I think C 130 or CN 235 gunship is more useful for COIN then Supertucano planes. This is why Indonesian aerospace is developing CN 235 for this role.

It depends on the mission. Sometimes a small COIN plane can be more useful for quick+responsive scout/ground interdiction...without commiting a big heavy asset for it...especially in say jungle areas with small unprepared runways etc.

Big gunships is more when you have a sustained combined mission with lot of allied support and significant enemy activity etc.

 

[Shabi1]

they actually were.
the AC-130 is a weapon used for COIN operations and beyond that it is pretty much useless for the Pakistan army and Air force.
congress had no problems selling it to Pakistan

The AC-130s have not been on offer to any country because of some sensitive on board systems. They are with there in the list with B-2 and F-22.
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-Non-US-version-of-AC-130


But even if on offer these systems are very expensive to operate and not feasible for a country like Pakistan. There is a new type of Gunship variant of CN-235 which replaced some AH-1s in COIN role with Jordan. Although the time we needed it has passed if Pakistan needs to buy a Gunship aircraft this fits it's needs perfectly and we already operate the base platform.

 

[Indos]

The AC-130s have not been on offer to any country because of some sensitive on board systems. They are with there in the list with B-2 and F-22.
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-Non-US-version-of-AC-130


But even if on offer these systems are very expensive to operate and not feasible for a country like Pakistan. There is a new type of Gunship variant of CN-235 which replaced some AH-1s in COIN role with Jordan. Although the time we needed it has passed if Pakistan needs to buy a Gunship aircraft this fits it's needs perfectly and we already operate the base platform.

Singapore Airshow 2020: Indonesia prepares CN-235 gunship for first aerial firings
Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore - Jane's Defence Weekly
13 February 2020
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A model of the CN-235 gunship is pictured on display at the Singapore Airshow 2020 exhibition. Source: Jane’s/Ridzwan Rahmat
Key Points

• Indonesian aerospace company PT Dirgantara has made progress on a gunship variant of its CN-235 aircraft
• The variant will be marketed to potential customers, especially those in the Middle East and African regions

Indonesian state-owned aircraft manufacturer PT Dirgantara (PTDI) has completed ground firing trials on a gunship variant of the CN-235 twin-engine multipurpose aircraft, and is now preparing the airframe for its first aerial tests, Igan Satyawati, the company's vice president for business development and marketing, told Jane's at Singapore Airshow 2020.

The variant, which has been developed out of the company's flying test bed (FTB) airframe, is fitted with single-barrelled 30 mm DEFA 553 aircraft cannon on the portside aft of its fuselage.

The weapon was salvaged from a retired Douglas A-4H Skyhawk that was formerly in service with the Indonesian Air Force (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Udara: TNI-AU).

The FTB was formerly in service with the now defunct domestic flight operator, Merpati Nusantara Airlines. PTDI acquired the airframe as a platform from which it can prove out experimental concepts, such as the gunship variant.

It is equipped with General Electric (GE) CT7-9 turboprop engines and has been structurally enhanced to withstand the weight of its 30 mm cannon. The airframe has also been retrofitted with storage compartments to store equipment and munitions related to the weapon.

There are plans to incorporate hardpoints on the aircraft's wings and fuselage so it can carry additional weapons but this is not a priority at the moment, said the company.

"Now that ground-based firings from the aircraft have been completed, we are focused on preparing the parameters to test the aircraft and its [30 mm] weapon while it is in the air," sad Igan, adding that the company is aiming to conduct the flight trials by 2020.

 

[jamahir]

@Nilgiri, on the other thread you were bickering about Guevara killing people, yet here you are happily posting about another killing machine developed by the American establishment. Hypocritical of you.

Tell me, when will the American government get rid of its thousands of atomic weapons ??

 

[Nilgiri]

@Nilgiri, on the other thread you were bickering about Guevara killing people, yet here you are happily posting about another killing machine developed by the American establishment. Hypocritical of you.

Tell me, when will the American government get rid of its thousands of atomic weapons ??

An utterly pacifist people just get wiped out.

Understand what weapons mean for deterrence.

I am against war mongering.

The US has killed far far fewer people than your commie regimes did on industrial scale by action of war, genocide or other ways of stripping human dignity and murdering (that too of their own citizens).

 

[jamahir]

Understand what weapons mean for deterrence.

I am against war mongering.

Hah hah, so you are not war mongering. Good Joke.

One of the first ways of beginning a global disarmament would be USA and NATO getting rid of their nuclear weapons.

I ask, who is imminently threatening to invade especially USA ??

 

[Nilgiri]

One of the first ways of beginning a global disarmament would be USA and NATO getting rid of their nuclear weapons.

Why them and not the others?

I ask, who is imminently threatening to invade especially USA ??

Who is imminently threatening to invade anyone? Onus is on just one to prove this? Please tell the 200 other countries the same thing, lets see if even one does it.

This is exactly why your utopia fails so badly each time its tried and why you commies became the single biggest destroyer of human lives in the end, after first promising some eternal fantasy dream.

Its this basic non-understanding of the facts of how human society and pyschologyy works. You learn reality and make a system to work with it.....rather than make a system and try to fit reality to it.

 

[jamahir]

Why them and not the others?

Let NATO start, the others will follow. NATO is the biggest war-mongerer in the world.

Or let there be a parallel disarmament.

Who is imminently threatening to invade anyone?

Venezuela is under imminent threat of invasion by NATO.

You learn reality and make a system to work with it.

How is India's reality-based system doing ??

By the way, even Western countries have some Socialistic things built into the system.