USA angry about Turkey's military exercise with China

[Speeder 2]

Yep.. you are rite.. so does INDIAN OCEAN

WRONG!

It works only for "sea", "gulf", "canal" etc. smaller objects, whereas "Ocean" is way out of the proportion. Hence Indian Ocrean has not too much to do with India.

 

[Speeder 2]

China should try to exercice in Pacific ocean with Cuba and Venezula!

Well, I think China is definitely on the move:

1. Chavez has already been equipping with Made-in-CHina awr planes and would love to give the finger to gringos.

2. I've just read in China economic development thread that Cuba is buying China's offshore oil rigs. With oil, the next step is navy escort logically

And you forgot 3:

Mexico! Remember Mexico just celebrated its 200 year independence day recently, when PLA were invited to march in front of the ceremony?

Venezela, Cuba and Mexico -- this is what I would call "Central America Red Trio". PLA could have a navy execise with all of them together at a short notice right next to Miami coastline. Then even Whisky Party will not work let alone Tea Party.

 

[ARSENAL6]

Well the same can be said about China. They complain when the U.S does exercises with South Korea.

Really ? so why are they are soooooooooo upset with Turkey then ?

The yellow sea isn't owned by China and 3 other countries share it with China.

so is the entire world but the US keeps butting in

Now why would you say that....US has every right to find out why one of its important strategic ally that provides airbase for its troops transitions to Iraq and Afghanistan (not to mention all supply routes for fuel and water,etc to the war zone) has gone bunkers and now deals with Iran, China, Syria. They also not so happy how Turkey rudely kicked the Israelis out of the Anatolian exercise last year but now China is OK?
Turkey needs to do some explaining as into where they actually stand as an ally of US which shares important classified intelligence with.

Need to read the floatilla incident with Israel
and speaking of "who needs to do some actual explaining as into whos side they are " Shouldn't the US explain that to Pakistan why they had the bright idea to delibratly shoot 14 of Pakistani soilders after helping US forces against Terrorists in Afganistan ?

Turkey has every right to choose who they wish to do their excerise.
THe US have been doing it with other countries for years.

 

[Azatavrear]

Need to read the floatilla incident with Israel
and speaking of "who needs to do some actual explaining as into whos side they are " Shouldn't the US explain that to Pakistan why they had the bright idea to delibratly shoot 14 of Pakistani soilders after helping US forces against Terrorists in Afganistan ?

Turkey has every right to choose who they wish to do their excerise.
THe US have been doing it with other countries for years.


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The Anatolian Eagle cancelation happened before Erdogan send a Turkish Trojan Horse towards Israel packed with his own selected few (and some activists). I must admit though, hell of move by Turkey which took the Israelis by a big surprise. It serves the Israeli government right; they should have known who they are really in bed with all these years and what they are capable of.
BTW, that had absolutely nothing to do with providing aid to poor Palestinians. It was stunt by Erdogan to not only get the Muslims worlds support (and domestic votes), but to effectively shift the center of Islam (sort of speak) from Tehran to Ankara. Palestinians now think that Turkey is going to save them from the Israelis; little do they know that Turkey, just like the Arab leaders, is only using them as cannon fodder.

I am not aware of the incident that you used as an example but I am quite sure US will have a statement or an explanation or an apology in that regards. Also your example is not relevant to question about the future of the strategic ties between USA and Turkey.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

China should try to exercice in Pacific ocean with Cuba and Venezula!

Dont test Uncle Sam.

 

[somebozo]

It was stunt by Erdogan to not only get the Muslims worlds support (and domestic votes), but to effectively shift the center of Islam (sort of speak) from Tehran to Ankara. Palestinians now think that Turkey is going to save them from the Israelis; little do they know that Turkey, just like the Arab leaders, is only using them as cannon fodder.

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Palestinenan issue is a political football kicked around for different gains and benefits as per the situation. Nobody is really intrested in rescuing those supressed. The issue itself has very little legitimate diplomatic and historical support to it.

 

[gypgypgyp]

Just confirmed

the Su-27 goes to Turkey is belong to 2nd division

it is the first bacth of J-11B

 

[below_freezing]

Dont test Uncle Sam.

i have to say, a few indians are some of the most barbaric and self-hating people i've seen. destroyed by us in 1962, so you want US (also lost to us in 1953 and 1975) to come save you? have some pride, 1.1 billion depending on the likes of you? give me a break.

 

[Perceptron]

i have to say, a few indians are some of the most barbaric and self-hating people i've seen. destroyed by us in 1962, so you want US (also lost to us in 1953 and 1975) to come save you? have some pride, 1.1 billion depending on the likes of you? give me a break.

So, by that count what would you call the US who annihilated/nuked out a Nation (Japan) 1/30th of your size which r@ped you in Nanking ?

The US is a global Power and is projected to be at least until 2050 ; So yes, The poster of the poster still has a point. China still has some way to go to call itself a regional military power at least.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

i have to say, a few indians are some of the most barbaric and self-hating people i've seen. destroyed by us in 1962, so you want US (also lost to us in 1953 and 1975) to come save you? have some pride, 1.1 billion depending on the likes of you? give me a break.

Wow, you just went haywire buddy. When did I imply India is hiding behind USA? Please show me where India came up in my statement? You dont know this , but I was BORN AND RAISED in . You dont think I have a connection to this nation? My statement was nothing to do with India at all. So save it.

USA lost in 1975 and 1953 to China? You think China at that time was in shape to challenge USA directly? Look at the casualties. It wasn't a military defeat. Try to fighting USA near in its neighborhood.

This is what I was implying. "Dont test USA". Because if China is in USA's backyard. You think USA wouldn't find that a threat? Simple as that. Dont bring up 1.1 billion people or what ever into this.

 

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[Jigs]

They can cry about it all they want. The reality is they decided not to come to the exercise because we kicked Israel out so we went ahead and had China join. It is our exercise and we can invite anyone we want. I say we do some naval exercises with them as well.

 

[siegecrossbow]

no_name you can be our new popeye on this forum!!!

So, by that count what would you call the US who annihilated/nuked out a Nation (Japan) 1/30th of your size which r@ped you in Nanking ?

I thought about my retort for a while and the most polite response I can think of is "SHUT THE **** UP".

 

[siegecrossbow]

here this is not the problem,why China is considering both sea's as its lake when it also borders numerous nation's that to in close proximity

When the hell did China consider the Yellow Sea and South China sea to be Chinese lakes? The last time I checked China was going for joint development of the South China Sea and Diaoyu Islands but the offers were declined by Vietnam and Japan, respectively.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

I thought about my retort for a while and the most polite response I can think of is "SHUT THE **** UP".

He is just being a jackass. Sorry that he said that.