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US STATE DEPERTMENT denies of the Nato stolen containers & its weapons in pakistan

So there is no charge of money laundering? People of Karachi can freely decide whom they want to donate or the way to spend their Qurbani ki Khal, they won't face any repercussions or threatening? Bhatta khori is no corruption? Forcing people to pay chanda is no corruption? Asking government employees for money before allotting them Govt quarters is no corruption? Supporting karkuns who are govt employees to work in private sector all along and get paid from govt funds without their presence on duty is no corruption? grabbing land is no corruption?
There is a difference between Corruption and Street Crimes. What you are mostly referring to is Street Crimes not Corruption and I have mentioned about Check and Balances within MQM for that already.

Thank you fr the news flash. But this does not exonerate your favorite bloody terrorist MQM from the charge of gun running terror and target killing.
Well we have got Bomb Exploding Terror and Rocket Terror as well in Karachi and in comparison to that this Gun Running Terror are doing much better job because most peaceful areas of Karachi are under their Influence while most Disturbed are under so called National Parties influence.

MQM is extremely corrupt too. Being from Karachi I personally know some MQMers who do nothing all day yet drive brand new Civics and Corollas. So dont me shit about your shitty party here.
Oh yes driving car borrowed from Family member doesnt make it their own. I am also the one who witness things like that but mostly found Borrowed rather then Owned.
 
There is a difference between Corruption and Street Crimes. What you are mostly referring to is Street Crimes not Corruption and I have mentioned about Check and Balances within MQM for that already.

Okay let us see

So there is no charge of money laundering?

Street crime? Does not look like one to me

People of Karachi can freely decide whom they want to donate or the way to spend their Qurbani ki Khal, they won't face any repercussions or threatening?

Street crime? Does it look like one?

Bhatta khori is no corruption? Forcing people to pay chanda is no corruption?

Okay may be this one can be classified as a street crime. May be

Asking government employees for money before allotting them Govt quarters is no corruption?

So this happens on streets?

Supporting karkuns who are govt employees to work in private sector all along and get paid from govt funds without their presence on duty is no corruption?

Ditto

grabbing land is no corruption?

Well what can I say, if you want it to be classified as street crime then be my guest.


So my friend out of all my accusations only one hardly meets the definition of a street crime.
 
I don't know why mqm supporters are blaming punjabis. This is between muhajirs, pathans and sindhis in Karachi. Sindh gov ordered rangers to raid mqm house. It seem like punjabis are easy target for these retards. N is just watching from sidelines and actually trying to bring peace between 3 naraz brothers.
How did you found about that???I havent heard MQM said anything about Punjabis anywhere establishment is something else but use of Punjabi word is unheard of by MQM till now except from Tahir Mashadi's Mouth who happens to be self Proclaimed Thet Punjabi and he was ex Army Officer himself..

Okay let us see



Street crime? Does not look like one to me



Street crime? Does it look like one?



Okay may be this one can be classified as a street crime. May be



So this happens on streets?



Ditto



Well what can I say, if you want it to be classified as street crime then be my guest.


So my friend out of all my accusations only one hardly meets the definition of a street crime.
1. Money Laundering=Corruption(I use the word MOSTLY what you said instead of ALL what you said for that reason)
2. Qurbani Khal=Street Crime called Theft
3. Bhatta Khori=Street Crime
4. Govt. Employees allocating Govt. Quarters=MQM doesnt Control any Govt. department so that is absurd Allegation.
5. Supporting Govt. Employees to Work Private=Its DEPARTMENTAL Corruption of Govt. Department and nothing to do with MQM because they dont even control KMC in Karachi now a days.
6. Land Grabbing/China Cutting=Its actually Bigger then Street Crime but not Corruption because it doesnt involve departments and Approvals just Guns and Criminals are enough for that.
 
Those weapons found at MQM are quite classy. Most likely smuggled or stolen from NATO containers.

This NATO container thing has been going on for a while and I guess if there were weapons stolen from there, all terrorist parties like TTP, MQM, ASWJ, LeJ have got the share.

How can weapons that were stolen be licensed?

Also MQM contention that state failed to protect them and thats why they need weapons is beyond comprehension. MQM has been part of govt for years. If its was state failure, it has been part of state failure.

MQM is a liar and a dishonest bunch of thugs.



Positive rating for what?

Quran was handed over to the people who had no knowledge of the wisdom Quran talked about. You dont have to be knowledgeable to understand Quran, you have to be taught right.
Weapons were not of NATO but were bought in the name of NATO
 
They are right they were not NATO containers the weapons were being brought by using NSTO name
Any details shipping bills ?
Or another conspiracy theory ?
You think americans are so sweet heart towards anyone that they will just donate thier sophisticated weaponry to anyone ?

Forget everything, just tell me what is your solution to all ills of Karachi?
zero tolerance to all the crimes & the criminals from any party , sect , or religion ?
To simple !

Weapons were not of NATO but were bought in the name of NATO
Prove that my friend , don't just bring false news.JI.com here?

Those weapons found at MQM are quite classy. Most likely smuggled or stolen from NATO containers.

This NATO container thing has been going on for a while and I guess if there were weapons stolen from there, all terrorist parties like TTP, MQM, ASWJ, LeJ have got the share.

How can weapons that were stolen be licensed?

Also MQM contention that state failed to protect them and thats why they need weapons is beyond comprehension. MQM has been part of govt for years. If its was state failure, it has been part of state failure.

MQM is a liar and a dishonest bunch of thugs.



Positive rating for what?

Quran was handed over to the people who had no knowledge of the wisdom Quran talked about. You dont have to be knowledgeable to understand Quran, you have to be taught right.
Sorry but after US state depertment statment there were no stolen containers & any arms & amunation please refrain from a myth created by the JI, JUIF type mullha illegal weapon dealers on the pak-Afghan borders ?
too hoodwink their sale of american arms , they brought that stupid myth which can glorify their halal mullha TTP brothers .
now I can bet you , the weapons found in the raid on 90 aren't the new or special ones , whole pakistan is filled with M4s &M 16 s ?

Alright, Rangers got no credibility.
These weapons arent stolen from NATO Containers.

So...
Why did MQM agreed of having license of weapons and said that these "very" weapons are for self defense?

Was that line also planted by rangers?
lol

You guys need ant like dots just to hate on the military.
Why then the govt issued them the licences?
no one is hating the militry , it's just a correction military needs to look into matters ?

are you kidding, US will never admit that.
How did NATO bring heavy equipment to Afghanistan, by air?, if they could do that why they need Pakistan's help for logistics, and why they need Pakistani roads for their exit.



those small arms are small in size but large in quantity. Daily used arms and ammunition is much bigger in weight than tanks or MRAPs
Do you want talk to US STATE DEPERTMENT spokes person ?
Dude they never gave it to ISRAEL the closest of its allies , come on whole myth was developed by the mullha influenced drug & illegal weapons traders who, got them in bits from afghanistan .
 
Why then the govt issued them the licences?
no one is hating the militry , it's just a correction military needs to look into matters ?

Good question..

Didnt think about that when i wrote it.

You think the govt was trying to mess them into the laws by doing that? Or maybe im just speculating...
 
Do you want talk to US STATE DEPERTMENT spokes person ?
Dude they never gave it to ISRAEL the closest of its allies , come on whole myth was developed by the mullha influenced drug & illegal weapons traders who, got them in bits from afghanistan .

How is ISIS getting so well equipped , yesterday MI6 spy was captured in turkey recruiting for ISIS, we have seen pictures weapon air drops to terrorists...who was weapons to afghan and now TTP.
 
And who is going to make sure of that? Is it really that simple :)
Pakarmy & its chief stated many times already they won't let any criminal dictating state at any level .
Yes that's is so simple !

How is ISIS getting so well equipped , yesterday MI6 spy was captured in turkey recruiting for ISIS, we have seen pictures weapon air drops to terrorists...who was weapons to afghan and now TTP.
ISIL got most of its weapons from the left overs stocks of US forces but not in huge numbers cause most of the times US armed its Allies with Russian & Chinese stuff , even if they have to buy it from black market ?
Even today ISIL terrorists has more Russian made AKs then M16s for its foot soilders .
Spy agencies does make their dirty bussiness but with less coletrale ?
any way MQM & ISIL are way different to compare ?
 
Do you know how a Minister or even a MNA behaves in Pakistan? Do you know how MQM ministers made money from Housing in Islamabad? Why on earth are you so blinded that you cannot see biggest hurdle to your or your community's well being? Nature has given a chance to you and others, make use of it get rid of all these evil corrupt thugs by not supporting them blindly. And bring in new young blood in their place to represent you. But if you are so hell bent on dying for these goons than May GOD have mercy on you because you are a lost soul.


You should have answered to my query instead ranting speech ...........
 
You should have answered to my query instead ranting speech ...........

Okay you want an answer then this much I know Babar Ghori's duty was to make sure that containers full of what Rangers confiscated from your beloved nine zero get cleared without any problem. And for rest of his duties he gave a damn, because he knows there are idiots who will go and speak and defend his a$$ no matter what.
Believe in whatever you want to come up with whatever reasons you want to counter that, but I will not change my stance current MQM is a terrorists organization, who has lost its control over its thugs and needs thorough cleansing to do anymore politics. And ta ta from my side.
 
Okay you want an answer then this much I know Babar Ghori's duty was to make sure that containers full of what Rangers confiscated from your beloved nine zero get cleared without any problem.

That's the point ... His duty was get cleared the containers ... Transporting to destination was not his duty ... Once containers get cleared from port then NLC had the responsibility to transporting the containers onto destination .......
 
That's the point ... His duty was get cleared the containers ... Transporting to destination was not his duty ... Once containers get cleared from port then NLC had the responsibility to transporting the containers onto destination .......

Daah is it mandatory that NLC if transported containers will check what is inside those containers? We receive daily shipments but transporters are not NLC. I am confused please elaborate on role of NLC in this?
 
Daah is it mandatory that NLC if transported containers will check what is inside those containers? We receive daily shipments but transporters are not NLC. I am confused please elaborate on role of NLC in this?

ISLAMABAD: As Nato supply was blocked by the PTI and JI, it has not only troubled the US-led forces in Afghanistan but also left an adverse impact on the business of Pakistan Army-run NLC that is the leading agency involved in transportation of US/Nato/Isaf goods from Karachi Port to Afghanistan.

While toilet-related stuff tops in Nato consignments in terms of non-military shipments, transportation done through the NLC forms 64 percent of the total goods transited through Pakistan, official data from January 2011 to October 2013 available with The News reveals.

Other transporters who won contract for the Nato supply also have to secure approval from NLC that has assumed monopolistic role in the entire business. As the NLC does not have the capacity to deal with the load of work, it has largely outsourced the business to private goods forwarding agencies, a fact that was already established by a report on Isaf containers prepared in January 2011 by Dr Shoaib Suddle, the then Federal Tax Ombudsman.

The rate per 40-feet container ranges between Rs33,000 to Rs38,000, this report said. As many as 6,735 consignments of Isaf/Nato were transported to Afghanistan. How many containers were used for each consignment shipment could not be ascertained by The News.

Not only the Nato supply, NLC is the lead agency for the transportation of commercial/non-commercial cargo of Afghan Transit Trade, US military and Isaf. Out of 6,735 consignments of Isaf and Nato combined, the NLC transported 57 percent of them in the last three years followed by another transportation company, Clearance for Chartered Plan Carriers (17 percent), and Freight Solutions ranked third with contract of five percent goods transited through Pakistan during this period.

De-icing material carries the highest import value that Isaf and Nato shifted to Afghanistan via Pakistan. Toilet-related stuff was the second highest import for Isaf/Nato troops during this period. When supply was blocked after attack on Salala post claiming lives of Pakistani soldiers, it resulted in severe shortage of diapers.

Compared to combined supply of Isaf and Nato, NLC has more shares in transportation of Nato goods as 64 percent of the shipment is done through this agency. Another goods forwarding agency, M/s Security Transport, received contract of 32 percent consignments followed by M/s Razziq International with 23 percent shipment.

NLC uses private transport for Isaf/Nato transit cargo and only 30 percent owned and 70 percent privately hired vehicles for commercial category of transit cargo, the report had disclosed, according to Suddle report of

2011 on Isaf containers scam. In case of privately hired vehicles, NLC simply gets documents signed from the transporter without ensuring safety and security of the cargo, the report said. The US/Isaf/Nato cargo for transit to Afghanistan is allowed transportation, the report explained, through private sector on the recommendation of Foreign Office subject to NOC by NLC.

The Economic Coordination Committee in 2002 assigned the role of central coordination agency for arranging logistics for transportation of cargo pertaining to the humanitarian and rehabilitation program in Afghanistan to NLC, according to Suddle report. As NLC did not have the requisite number of trucks, it started authorizing private sector transporters to do the job instead.

NLC hit badly by blockade of Nato supplies - thenews.com.pk

NATO CONTAINERS AND NLC.....HIDDEN TRUTH | Tune.pk
 

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