Even if we want back to land based trade why would Italy be the center of Europe ? the center of gravity has shifted to Germany
Remember when Ottomans captured Istanbul there was no Germany and Russia was much smaller
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US squirms as Italy gets closer to BRI
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Even if we want back to land based trade why would Italy be the center of Europe ? the center of gravity has shifted to Germany
Remember when Ottomans captured Istanbul there was no Germany and Russia was much smaller
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US Issues Warning About Italy Being Made "Great Again" Through China's 'Belt and Road' (2019-03-12)
The U.S. National Security Council issued a direct warning to Italy last weekend for its coziness with China. The country has been considering participating in China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), where one segment of the global economic effort aims to unite Europe with China.
"Italy is a major global economy and a great investment destination. Endorsing BRI lends legitimacy to China’s predatory approach to investment and will bring no benefits to the Italian people," tweeted the US National Security Council.
Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte believes otherwise. Conte has overruled the foreign ministry and joined right-wing Eurosceptics in his push for closer cooperation with China.
“With all the necessary precautions, Italy’s accession to a new silk route represents an opportunity for our country,” Conte said Friday.
President Xi Jinping is expected to travel to Italy from March 22-24, and Conte said Rome and Beijing are expected to agree to a framework deal during the state visit. Conte also announced his plan to attend an upcoming BRI summit in China.
The Italian leader’s plan to attend a BRI summit in Beijing next month has caused panic in Brussels and Washington, as Italy is on course to become the first G7 country to gravitate to China’s trade initiative that US and EU officials have intensely criticized.
“Italian governments have always had a keen eye on the belt and road, as the attention with which the current administration follows developments is largely inherited from the previous governments,” said Giovanni Andornino, a China expert based at the University of Torino in northern Italy.
“What is different now is that this government is much happier in having interaction with China, as opposed to being a driving force in the process of the EU-wide negotiation with China," Andornino said.
Wang Yiwei, director of the Centre for EU Studies at the Renmin University of China, said Rome’s resistance against Washington and Brussels stemmed from the Eurosceptic roots of its populist government.
“The current Italian government has always opposed the European Union, so they are less prejudiced against [China’s initiative] than the traditional political parties in Europe,” said Wang, who was a diplomat at the Chinese mission to the European Union from 2008 to 2011."
Like many other nations in southern Europe, Italy is attempting to pull itself out of a deep economic recession that started at the end of 2018. Italy can't turn to Brussels nor Washington because they currently don't have a viable plan to restore economic growth. So right-wing Eurosceptics are increasingly resorting to aligning with China (and often, Russia), a move that has left Washington furious.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...aly-being-made-great-again-through-chinas-bri
The U.S. National Security Council issued a direct warning to Italy last weekend for its coziness with China. The country has been considering participating in China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), where one segment of the global economic effort aims to unite Europe with China.
"Italy is a major global economy and a great investment destination. Endorsing BRI lends legitimacy to China’s predatory approach to investment and will bring no benefits to the Italian people," tweeted the US National Security Council.
Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte believes otherwise. Conte has overruled the foreign ministry and joined right-wing Eurosceptics in his push for closer cooperation with China.
“With all the necessary precautions, Italy’s accession to a new silk route represents an opportunity for our country,” Conte said Friday.
President Xi Jinping is expected to travel to Italy from March 22-24, and Conte said Rome and Beijing are expected to agree to a framework deal during the state visit. Conte also announced his plan to attend an upcoming BRI summit in China.
The Italian leader’s plan to attend a BRI summit in Beijing next month has caused panic in Brussels and Washington, as Italy is on course to become the first G7 country to gravitate to China’s trade initiative that US and EU officials have intensely criticized.
“Italian governments have always had a keen eye on the belt and road, as the attention with which the current administration follows developments is largely inherited from the previous governments,” said Giovanni Andornino, a China expert based at the University of Torino in northern Italy.
“What is different now is that this government is much happier in having interaction with China, as opposed to being a driving force in the process of the EU-wide negotiation with China," Andornino said.
Wang Yiwei, director of the Centre for EU Studies at the Renmin University of China, said Rome’s resistance against Washington and Brussels stemmed from the Eurosceptic roots of its populist government.
“The current Italian government has always opposed the European Union, so they are less prejudiced against [China’s initiative] than the traditional political parties in Europe,” said Wang, who was a diplomat at the Chinese mission to the European Union from 2008 to 2011."
Like many other nations in southern Europe, Italy is attempting to pull itself out of a deep economic recession that started at the end of 2018. Italy can't turn to Brussels nor Washington because they currently don't have a viable plan to restore economic growth. So right-wing Eurosceptics are increasingly resorting to aligning with China (and often, Russia), a move that has left Washington furious.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...aly-being-made-great-again-through-chinas-bri
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Revival of the ancient Rome - Han trade connection. Where is usa when we were trading 2 millennium ago?
China's Foreign Ministry spokesman answered journalist's question on this matter the other day:
问：近来各方都关注意大利参与“一带一路”合作的情况。我们注意到，意大利总理孔特明确表示，加入“一带一路”对意大利而言是机遇，是战略选择。孔特还表示，参与“一带一路”并不意味着将被迫做任何事情，而是得以参与此项目并开展对话。请问发言人对此有何评论？
Q: Italy's possible participation in the Belt and Road Initiative has been a subject of discussion lately. We noted that Italy's Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte explicitly said that Italy's accession to the Belt and Road Initiative represents an opportunity for the country. It is a strategic choice for Italy and won't mean that Italy will be forced to do anything. It will provide Italy with access to the initiative and channels for dialogues. What is your comment?
答：中国和意大利双边关系良好，两国近年来各领域务实合作成果丰硕，为各自经济发展作出实实在在的贡献。扩大互利合作，符合双方共同利益，也是双方的战略选择。
A: China and Italy enjoy sound relations. Practical cooperation between the two sides in various fields has yielded fruitful outcomes and made tangible contributions to the economic development of the two countries. Expanding mutually beneficial cooperation, as a strategic choice made by China and Italy, serves the common interests of the two sides.
“一带一路”倡议提出6年来，受到国际社会越来越广泛的支持和参与，根本上是因为这一合作平台契合了参与方的发展需要，是因为共商共建共享的合作原则得到广泛认同，更是因为合作的成果越来越实实在在地体现在了参与方的经济社会发展和民生就业改善上。
Over the past six years since its inception, the Belt and Road Initiative has been receiving growing support and participation from the international community. Fundamentally, it is because this cooperation platform serves the development needs of all participants, and the principle of wide consultation, joint contribution and shared benefits has been approved worldwide. More importantly, cooperation outcomes have been translated into the economic and social development and improvement of people's livelihood and employment in all participating countries.
意大利是重要的工业化国家和发达经济体。我们欢迎意大利积极参与共建“一带一路”，相信这将为双方的互利合作开辟更广阔的空间，为两国工商界和社会公众带来更多的福祉。
Italy is an important industrialized nation and a developed economy. We welcome Italy's participation in the Belt and Road Initiative which we believe will create greater space for mutually beneficial cooperation and bring more benefits to the business communities and the public of our two sides.
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/w8W30iZbVAcpwj9CfKNCEg
China's Foreign Ministry spokesman answered journalist's question on this matter the other day:
问：近来各方都关注意大利参与“一带一路”合作的情况。我们注意到，意大利总理孔特明确表示，加入“一带一路”对意大利而言是机遇，是战略选择。孔特还表示，参与“一带一路”并不意味着将被迫做任何事情，而是得以参与此项目并开展对话。请问发言人对此有何评论？
Q: Italy's possible participation in the Belt and Road Initiative has been a subject of discussion lately. We noted that Italy's Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte explicitly said that Italy's accession to the Belt and Road Initiative represents an opportunity for the country. It is a strategic choice for Italy and won't mean that Italy will be forced to do anything. It will provide Italy with access to the initiative and channels for dialogues. What is your comment?
答：中国和意大利双边关系良好，两国近年来各领域务实合作成果丰硕，为各自经济发展作出实实在在的贡献。扩大互利合作，符合双方共同利益，也是双方的战略选择。
A: China and Italy enjoy sound relations. Practical cooperation between the two sides in various fields has yielded fruitful outcomes and made tangible contributions to the economic development of the two countries. Expanding mutually beneficial cooperation, as a strategic choice made by China and Italy, serves the common interests of the two sides.
“一带一路”倡议提出6年来，受到国际社会越来越广泛的支持和参与，根本上是因为这一合作平台契合了参与方的发展需要，是因为共商共建共享的合作原则得到广泛认同，更是因为合作的成果越来越实实在在地体现在了参与方的经济社会发展和民生就业改善上。
Over the past six years since its inception, the Belt and Road Initiative has been receiving growing support and participation from the international community. Fundamentally, it is because this cooperation platform serves the development needs of all participants, and the principle of wide consultation, joint contribution and shared benefits has been approved worldwide. More importantly, cooperation outcomes have been translated into the economic and social development and improvement of people's livelihood and employment in all participating countries.
意大利是重要的工业化国家和发达经济体。我们欢迎意大利积极参与共建“一带一路”，相信这将为双方的互利合作开辟更广阔的空间，为两国工商界和社会公众带来更多的福祉。
Italy is an important industrialized nation and a developed economy. We welcome Italy's participation in the Belt and Road Initiative which we believe will create greater space for mutually beneficial cooperation and bring more benefits to the business communities and the public of our two sides.
https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/w8W30iZbVAcpwj9CfKNCEg
this is what you call a useless press briefing. not to pick on the chinese foreign ministry spokesperson
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