US Smear Campaign Against Pakistan

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

why dont pak army sue NY times and Wash. Post, if they have caught them red handed????

Because the Western media manipulated by the US Establishment will then quote 'anonymous sources' as claiming that the 'ISI is kicking out journalists and trying to silence them for reporting the so called truth', and completely ignore the fact that the video/audio tapes of the COAS's address do not suggest any such statement on his part.

 

[somebozo]

Seprating fact from fiction.
Alquaida stemmed in Saudi Arabia due to repressive and economically suicidal policies of puppet King Fahd, an acholoic which US helped installed through a coup which saw bloody murder of progress and neutrality minded King Faisal at the hands of his American educated nephew. King Fahd thankful to its master for power by taking up Washington dictated oil policies to economically drain soviet union which depended on gas and oil exports for much of its revenue. While King Faisal fought against the extremist elements and its credited with introduction of TV, Radio, Media and arts in the Kingdom and put industry, education and moderation above all. King Fahd did just the opposite, he depended on extremist element to secure his throne because he had no support of the educated masses, created brutal squads of religious police to suppress any moderation or advanced by educated masses. Replaced the national school curriculum eliminating large part of science, language and mathematics with religion, religious disputes, sectarian differences and fictitious history. Due to his American compliant economic police, Saudi economy took a huge nose dive all ambitious projects initiated during the Faisal era either collapsed due to lack of funding or cancelled all together. Large parts of Saudi economic activities were nationalized under state orders and eventually all the entrepreneurs and educated able families fled the Kingdom towards Europe and America. The religious squads received large cash handouts directly from the King which fueled their ambitious recruitment and propagation drives. The manpower base of religious nutjobs at large depended on middle and peasant class Saudi families which were left with no economic means due to reversal of all economic opportunities created during the reign of King Faisal. Sending your kid to religious memorization school could earn parents as much as 2000SR monthly bounty until the kid remained associated with the schooling facility. This meant raising a whole Saudi generation on outward religious discipline with zero logical knowledge.

Among all this religious fervor instigated by King Fahd, Osama bin laden labeled as crazy head by his own family was seen a hero however his movement would soon spiral out of control much like the Ikhwan did for Saudi founder King Abdul Aziz.

Today King Fahad is a widely hated and least talked about figure. His portraits do not display at any major event. He is not even honored on the annual kings day which remember even the most incompetent like King Saud which literally wasted the national treasure on gambling and alcohol.

So yes, American policies did created Taliban, Al Quaida and terrorist and America is directly responsible for it.
This is separation of fact from fiction.

 

[Respect4Respect01]

ok seriously, if they start the war, we will end it.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

merging threads

 

[Leader]

Because the Western media manipulated by the US Establishment will then quote 'anonymous sources' as claiming that the 'ISI is kicking out journalists and trying to silence them for reporting the so called truth', and completely ignore the fact that the video/audio tapes of the COAS's address do not suggest any such statement on his part.

actually in the courts you have to backup your claim, you cannot just run away with saying "anonymous source", the relationship of two states can be at stake for such blunders, if the two sides are men of honour...

 

[Leader]

ok seriously, if they start the war, we will end it.

mafi mang ker ??

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

actually in the courts you have to backup your claim, you cannot just run away with saying "anonymous source", the relationship of two states can be at stake for such blunders, if the two sides are men of honour...

Right, the Pakistani courts, which the Western media will then allege are 'under the influence of the ISI/PA'.

Bhai, the Western media, US Establishment and our very own fringe minority liberal fascists have a conspiracy theory and excuse to somehow blame the ISI/PA for everything wrong under the sun.

 

[Zarvan]

Pakistan should help the Afghans in their fight against forces of occupation other wise we will face American Anger so keep them busy in Afghanistan

 

[Leader]

Right, the Pakistani courts, which the Western media will then allege are 'under the influence of the ISI/PA'.

Bhai, the Western media, US Establishment and our very own fringe minority liberal fascists have a conspiracy theory and excuse to somehow blame the ISI/PA for everything wrong under the sun.

com'on yar, what does this have to do with a case in court ? and a case is filed in the same country whose newspaper has allegedly given false report.

 

[Bang Galore]

Right, the Pakistani courts, which the Western media will then allege are 'under the influence of the ISI/PA'.

Bhai, the Western media, US Establishment and our very own fringe minority liberal fascists have a conspiracy theory and excuse to somehow blame the ISI/PA for everything wrong under the sun.

Who the hell are you & what have you done with Agnostic Muslim?

 

[Ticker]

Whenever Pakistan responds with its won national interests which do not align with those of the West and even Indian media, such tactics are used and are common. We need to stand up to such offensive propaganda and so does our media should also respond aggressively.

 

[Soumitra]

The point I am trying to make here is that from 1989-2001, Pakistan supported Afghan elements that gave it strategic depth there. Pakistan supported certain elements that gave it strategic depth in Indian administered Kashmir.....................................................................Pakistan might use local Jihadi groups for strategic depth in Afghanistan & India, but it has no use for the globalist Islamic agenda. This is the reality the world has to accept............................................................. The US as a non-Muslim force occupying "Islamic/Muslim" land rejuvenated them to come together, & they see it from that spectrum. In most probability, they will go back to where they came from once the war is over.............................................
However, the local Jihadi groups in Pakistan might decide to keep them against the Pakistan government, in case they feel threatened by the Pakistan Army. Hence, in my opinion, it is imperative not to break ties with these local groups, & come up with a solution that doesn't undermine Pakistan........................................ Pakistan must ensure that it maintains ties to local groups, so that these groups don't start a war with Pakistan, & then have to resort to giving safe havens to Al-Qaeda fighters, as long as these local groups by themselves do not challenge the state of Pakistan like they do when affiliated with Al-Qaeda.

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