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US ready to talk to Mullah Omar: Hillary Clinton

But she represents america. She is the spokesman of the american government.
Oh you called her a hypocrite. This is indeed a good moment.
If she is a hypocrite, and if she represents the american government...that makes the american government... hypocrites!

So how can we take hillary clinton or the american government seriously if they are hypocrites?

And if she has elements of cruelty in her character, then she is an immoral woman, who shouldn't be trusted!

:rofl:

you said it
 
So how can we take hillary clinton or the american government seriously if they are hypocrites?
That's politics. Seriously. She's not some commentator or analyst.

And if she has elements of cruelty in her character, then she is an immoral woman, who shouldn't be trusted?
Not sure what you mean. In my book, immorality is sexual misbehavior, while cruelty is destroying a political enemy or not caring about how one's pursuit of power affects little people.

I closely associate immorality with corruption. Cruel people, on the other hand, are unlikely to swerve pursuing their goals and in that narrow sense at least can be trusted.
 
That's politics. Seriously. She's not some commentator or analyst.

Not sure what you mean. In my book, immorality is sexual misbehavior, while cruelty is destroying a political enemy or not caring about how one's pursuit of power affects little people.

I closely associate immorality with corruption. Cruel people, on the other hand, are unlikely to swerve pursuing their goals and in that narrow sense at least can be trusted.
So politics should be run by barbaric and animalistic whims and desires and concepts contrary to just and moral principles?

Oh so in your "book" it is moral to steal, kill unjustly, treat people disrespectfully? For you immorality is just sexual misbehavior.

I believe immorality is anything that is unethical and unjust.

If she is cruel, she is being unjust. If she is being unjust she is being immoral.

So since she is known to be a liar, and since she is a hypocrite, and since she is the spokesman of the american government, then I cannot trust what the american government says.

If hillary clinton is a hypocrite and morally bankrupt, then she is a barbarian or a savage!
 
Oh so in your "book" it is moral to steal, kill unjustly, treat people disrespectfully? For you immorality is just sexual misbehavior.
Let's keep this narrow, on-topic. For that we address the common language issue. "Immoral woman" is a phrase commonly associated with sexual behavior in the U.S. - is that what you meant?

If she is cruel, she is being unjust.
Being cruel is an act. Being unjust refers to judgment. The two aren't the same. If Hilary bumps me while she's out jogging and doesn't stop to apologize, that's cruel and ill-mannered - but it may not have been unjust, especially if I was blocking the alley.

So since she is known to be a liar, and since she is a hypocrite, and since she is the spokesman of the american government, then I cannot trust what the american government says.
It is a risk, but it's more risky when dealing with Pakistan to be considered absolutely reliable. That was a contributing factor to the debacles of 1965 and 1971: Pakistani leaders, feeling confident they had America in their pocket, proceeded to break the barriers of civilized warfare and collective security treaties to infiltrate and go to war over Kashmir (1965) or begin an explicitly genocidal civil war (1971).

If hillary clinton is a hypocrite and morally bankrupt, then she is a barbarian or a savage who believes in the law of the jungle!
We need a good political cartoon here, don't we? Too bad no Pakistani at PDF is an illustrator...
 
Let's keep this narrow, on-topic. For that we address the common language issue. "Immoral woman" is a phrase commonly associated with sexual behavior in the U.S. - is that what you meant?

Being cruel is an act. Being unjust refers to judgment. The two aren't the same. If Hilary bumps me while she's out jogging and doesn't stop to apologize, that's cruel and ill-mannered - but it may not have been unjust, especially if I was blocking the alley.

It is a risk, but it's more risky when dealing with Pakistan to be considered absolutely reliable. That was a contributing factor to the debacles of 1965 and 1971: Pakistani leaders, feeling confident they had America in their pocket, proceeded to break the barriers of civilized warfare and collective security treaties to infiltrate and go to war over Kashmir (1965) or begin an explicitly genocidal civil war (1971).

We need a good political cartoon here, don't we? Too bad no Pakistani at PDF is an illustrator...

I don't care what immoral woman idiom means in america. You are in a Pakistani defense forum. Not everyone in the world lives in america and is an american!

Don't play with words.

Everybody knows what is fair, what is moral, what is cruelty.

If she is being cruel, she is being immoral. Anyone who is cruel is bad. Anyone who is kind is good.
Anyone who believes in moral and just principles is good.

I shouldn't haven't to talk in baby language!

Anyways I don't trust Hillary Clinton!
 
Clinton is the biggest two faced **** face in the world.

remember the Serbian sniping episode? Or when she said she will obliterate Iran?
Carzy *****

@ the annoying *** american
you can call her a liberal all you want. To us, you guys are all the same ****. Liberal or conservative, you guys are the same trigger happy ticking time bombs.
 
If they talk to them (which they have done already many times earlier) how can they make sure the person they are talking to is Mullah Omar or his man.
 
Anyone who is cruel is bad. Anyone who is kind is good.
By your definition the jailers who keep convicted murderers locked in their cells are bad while their accomplices who seek to knock down prison walls to free them are good. Care to try again?

Anyone who believes in moral and just principles is good.
Like Robespierre? Or the Haqqanis?

I shouldn't haven't to talk in baby language!
That's where we all start.

Anyways I don't trust Hillary Clinton!
Trust her in what sense?

The French idealize Talleyrand, whose decades-long career practically began with regicide and included many betrayals, serving in succession the Church, the King, the Directory, Napoleon, the Allies, and again the King. When attacked in the English Parliament his character was defended by his interlocutor - sometimes enemy, sometimes ally, sometimes both - the Duke of Wellington, thus:
Never had the character of a man been more unjustly attacked than that of Prince Talleyrand, whom he always found a loyal and honorable towards foreign Powers as he was steadfast and enlightened in regards to the interests of his own country.
In short, the Duke recognized that Talleyrand - unethical, sexually immoral, hypocritical, treasonous, and politely offensive - had always been most concerned about France, not necessarily the vacillations of its leadership. In that sense Talleyrand had been trustworthy.

(Upon reading the report of the Duke's speech, Talleyrand cried - possibly the only honest tears the man ever shed.)

Hillary is no Talleyrand but she represents America's leadership and I think I can trust that she is trying to serve America's interests. And since WWII it's usually been in America's interest not to defeat its enemies, but to grow them into new friends.

When that doesn't work, then one returns to the air force, navy, army, and marines.
 
Hilary Chachi comes to Pakistan and says to us, "Do More".

Goes to the US and says, "We are ready to talk to the Terrorists".


On one hand she (USofA) asks us to fight and on the other hand they themselves are talking about negotiating with the terrorists.


As i say, you will not find another bigger hypocrite then the US in the whole world.
 
Hilary Chachi comes to Pakistan and says to us, "Do More".
Goes to the US and says, "We are ready to talk to the Terrorists".
On one hand she (USofA) asks us to fight and on the other hand they themselves are talking about negotiating with the terrorists.
As i say, you will not find another bigger hypocrite then the US in the whole world.

You see, there are no problems in Afghanistan - all the problems are in Pakistan - once you understand this All will fall in place, Once the SOFA is signed, then absolutely all problems will reside in Pakistan and of course need to be resolved.
 
No they are not going run away - they've come to clean up a mess you see, and so I guess they have to identify who's creating a mess and then clean that up.

For the US to succeed, it has to go home, they don't realize this yet - perhaps events elsewhere may focus their thinking, at least one can hope

Witness:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/31/world/asia/haqqani-network-sends-message-with-kabul-attacks.html?_r=1&ref=global-home

When car bombs blew up in West Beirut, or explosions cut down worshipers in Sadr City mosques, survivors generally knew who was to blame, and more or less why — even when no one claimed responsibility.

So, too, with the suicide car bomb that on Saturday delivered the worst blow that NATO forces have suffered yet in Kabul, smashing into an armored bus full of troops and killing 13 foreigners, most of them Americans, and at least 4 Afghans.

The Taliban immediately claimed responsibility, but Afghan and American officials suspect that, more specifically, it was the fearsome Haqqani faction, whose fighters have proved better trained and organized than many Taliban, and which in recent months especially has focused its attacks on military targets rather than civilian ones.

The message the Haqqanis are sending — to the world and, especially, to the Afghan public — is that they are willing and able to kill foreign troops. And with the Haqqani bombs comes a particularly troublesome return address: Pakistan, where the group is based.
 
No they are not going run away - they've come to clean up a mess you see, and so I guess they have to identify who's creating a mess and then clean that up.

For the US to succeed, it has to go home, they don't realize this yet - perhaps events elsewhere may focus their thinking, at least one can hope

Actually i was saying in 2014 they will ran away saying we lost because terrorists keep coming from pakistan.
 
HAHAHAHHAHHA WHERE ARE MY BEST FRIENDS ???? "INDIANS???""" ahahahahhahahahahhaha

MULLAH OMAR IS TERRORIST ???? TALIBANS ????? AHAAAN ??????

WHERE IS SUPER DUPER F16s ?? F18 ??? Aircraft Carriers ???? Super Duper Military Equipment, Statellite ??????

FINALLY US LOST ANOTHER WAR!

i know my Best friend still don't admit this :rofl::rofl::rofl:

UNITEDSTATES OF AMERICA IS KNEE DOWNT IN FRONT OF TALIBANS! GOOD WORK Those who think we will win the war with weapons ARE STUPID IDIOT NON-SENSE!
 

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