US court summons ISI chief in Mumbai terror case

[Nair saab]

No hope...nothings gonna happen...poor old man is wasting his money on lawyer

 

[foxbat]

Curiousity sake: Has a govt organization ever been sued for a wrongful death case in a terror strike so far? Or is this a first?

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

No hope...nothings gonna happen...poor old man is wasting his money on lawyer

Pardon my language but would you say the same had you been (god forbid) killed in 26/11 and it were your father doing the rounds of the court seeking justice for his lost son (i.e. you)?

 

[foxbat]

No hope...nothings gonna happen...poor old man is wasting his money on lawyer

You are being naive if you think that this a personally driven event

 

[foxbat]

Pardon my language but would you say the same had you been (god forbid) killed in 26/11 and it were your father doing the rounds of the court seeking justice for his lost son (i.e. you)?

I think he is just showing despair that the justice will not be done.. Political goals generally take precedence over justice all over the world.

 

[blain2]

So much hubris?

Keeping aside the fact that the US court will most probably not take any solid action, let me ask you one simple hypothetical question.

Do you think that at this point of time, Pakistan can afford any kind of sanctions put on it by the US or the international community?

What Pakistan cannot afford is to have its security personnel respond to every single motivated case that gets popped up into the US legal system.

They can try to sanction Pakistan but the way I read the situation, it would massively undermine the US efforts in the region if any attempts were made to do so.

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You are being naive if you think that this a personally driven event

Exactly and thus all the more reason for Pakistan to block any or all attempts to drag our security apparatus into this sinister circus. What is clear to me is that this is being driven by the Indian side by actively co-opting into the issue victims of US origin to put pressure on Pakistan.

The writing is there for all to see, and thus every effort should be made by Pakistan to make the distinction between non-state players and the GoP and keep its personnel away from this situation.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

I think he is just showing despair that the justice will not be done.. Political goals generally take precedence over justice all over the world.

The thing is that people might show hubris or overweening pride and jingoism on an internet forum saying, "The court can take it up it ***" or " We don't give a ****.". Really big words.

But! The thing is:

FARAK PADTA HAI!

When the name of one's country is being maligned the world over by such incidents, FARAK PADTA HAI!

These are the reasons why not many give aid to Pakistan during its worst floods.

These are the things which affect foreign investment in Pakistan.

These are the things because of which Pakistani travellers face harassment or 'random checks' at airports.

These are the things why Pakistan gets its name attached to Afghanistan as in AfPak.

Farak padta hai dost! Bahut farak padta hai!

 

[foxbat]

What Pakistan cannot afford is to have its security personnel respond to every single motivated case that gets popped up into the US legal system.

They can try to sanction Pakistan but the way I read the situation, it would massively undermine the US efforts in the region if any attempts were made to do so.

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Exactly and thus all the more reason for Pakistan to block any or all attempts to drag our security apparatus into this sinister circus.

US State is not a player in this case. Its between a private citizen and a govt org in Pakistan. Even if the damages are awarded, the worst case scenario for Pakistan is the payment of those damages, either willingly or thru a possible deduction from the next tranche of assistance from the USA (the US courts are powerful enough to order that). I think the bigger problem is the bad publicity for Pakistan's intelligence agency to be sued for complicity in a terror attack.

On the flip side, it may be a underhand ploy to give a clean chit to ISI from the stigm of their alleged involvement in Mumbai attacks.. With the gloabal politics, you never know..

 

[sathya]

i dont think pakistan will send any of its military official to other countries
Dr.khan himself has not been sent anywhere, even though he was wanted for enquiry in the NUKE selling

 

[I FLY HIGH]

Pardon my language but would you say the same had you been (god forbid) killed in 26/11 and it were your father doing the rounds of the court seeking justice for his lost son (i.e. you)?

First you should give justice to the fathers of hundreds of thousands of Native , local Kashmiri sons, whom you killed. Keep your lectures of hamanity for your army chief or RAW chief , who are responsible for these killings.

 

[blain2]

The thing is that people might show hubris or overweening pride and jingoism on an internet forum saying, "The court can take it up it ***" or " We don't give a ****.". Really big words.

But! The thing is:

FARAK PADTA HAI!

When the name of one's country is being maligned the world over by such incidents, FARAK PADTA HAI!

Agar faraq parta tau yeh faraq aaj say 10-20 saal pehlay parta.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

First you should give justice to the fathers of hundreds of thousands of Native , local Kashmiri sons, whom you killed. Keep your lectures of hamanity for your army chief or RAW chief , who are responsible for these killings.

Don't go off topic.

You'll bring kashmir. I'll bring your support to terrorists. I'll bring Kargil. etc. etc. There are n number of threads for those things.

So do not derail the thread.

 

[blain2]

US State is not a player in this case. Its between a private citizen and a govt org in Pakistan. Even if the damages are awarded, the worst case scenario for Pakistan is the payment of those damages, either willingly or thru a possible deduction from the next tranche of assistance from the USA (the US courts are powerful enough to order that). I think the bigger problem is the bad publicity for Pakistan's intelligence agency to be sued for complicity in a terror attack.

On the flip side, it may be a underhand ploy to give a clean chit to ISI from the stigm of their alleged involvement in Mumbai attacks.. With the gloabal politics, you never know..

We have been through this before. If they want to deduct damages from assistance to Pakistan, they sure can and maybe they should, but Pakistan will not agree to sending anyone over and will not be a party to this case.

 

[I FLY HIGH]

US State is not a player in this case. Its between a private citizen and a govt org in Pakistan. Even if the damages are awarded, the worst case scenario for Pakistan is the payment of those damages, either willingly or thru a possible deduction from the next tranche of assistance from the USA (the US courts are powerful enough to order that). I think the bigger problem is the bad publicity for Pakistan's intelligence agency to be sued for complicity in a terror attack.

On the flip side, it may be a underhand ploy to give a clean chit to ISI from the stigm of their alleged involvement in Mumbai attacks.. With the gloabal politics, you never know..

Look the Americans are begging to ISI and Pakistan Army to help in Afghanistan(USA has considerably less arogant after beating in afghanistan). Isi chief appearing in a US court is a biggest joke of today. Please close this thread. I cant take it anymore.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Agar faraq parta tau yeh faraq aaj say 10-20 saal pehlay parta.

Please read my edited post. Farak padta hai aur farak pad raha hai. Aap na maanein, wo alag baat hai.