US becoming a creepy Control Freak. Nato Ally Hungary gets sanctioned too now

[senheiser]

US Cancels Visas for Hungarian Officials Over Corruption Allegations

According to local media reports, the entry ban could target people associated with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban

© RIA Novosti. Alexei Nikolsky
21:30 18/10/2014


MOSCOW, October 18 (RIA Novosti) – The United States imposed sanctions against some Hungarian officials and businessmen over their alleged involvement in corruption, Deutsche Welle has reported, citing US charge d'affaires of the US Embassy in Budapest Andre Goodfriend.

The diplomat did not name the corruption suspects, who were denied entry visas to the United States.

According to the local media reports, the entry ban could target people associated with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban and be a response to Hungary's rapprochement with Russia.

The United States and its allies have already imposed several rounds of economic sanctions against Russia, accusing it of supporting independence fighters in southeastern Ukraine.

Earlier on Thursday, Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto said he sanctions imposed against Russia by the West are not helping in resolving the situation in Ukraine and are hurting the economies of EU member-states.

Russian President Vladimir Putin repeatedly stated that Western sanctions undermine economic stability in the world and hurt not only the target country but also those using the measure.


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how long people will use the dollar? Not long. Who would like his money to be controlled by sociopaths?

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@LeveragedBuyout @Peter C

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

US entry-visa banning is not exactly bank account freezing.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

Russia's government are such control freaks their don't even want their neighbors to have their own countries! And on the point of the dollar there is a bit of irony about its status in Russia. Yes, the Russian government wants to lessen their holdings of USD, but when a crisis occurs people around the world, not just in Russia, flock to the safe haven that is the USD. Not the Rouble, the Peso or the Euro, the Yen, or the Canadian dollar, but the USD. The Russian government wants less, the Russian people want more.

And the title of the thread is an interesting one. Nice use of artistic license. What does Hungary being a NATO ally have to do with this gentleman's status as a corrupt official? Does a nation being a US partner shield them from repercussion when they do wrong?

 

[senheiser]

US entry-visa banning is not exactly bank account freezing.

this was first step against russia too

Russia's government are such control freaks their don't even want their neighbors to have their own countries! And on the point of the dollar there is a bit of irony about its status in Russia. Yes, the Russian government wants to lessen their holdings of USD, but when a crisis occurs people around the world, not just in Russia, flock to the safe haven that is the USD. Not the Rouble, the Peso or the Euro, the Yen, or the Canadian dollar, but the USD. The Russian government wants less, the Russian people want more.

And the title of the thread is an interesting one. Nice us of artistic license. What does Hungary being a NATO ally have to do with this gentleman's status as a corrupt official? Does a nation being a US partner shield them from repercussion when they do wrong?

fact is you put your nose constantly in other countries internal affair while preaching russia about ukraine. Second Russians rather buy euro than dollar, its energy companies who have many dollar due to energy being paid in dollars but this will change. Once your dollar collapses no one wants this paper money garbage.

You also pointed out why exactly everything about these crisis is benefiting america, so maybe these crisis were made by america in the first place to strengthen the dollar? Thanks for pointing this out

 

[LeveragedBuyout]

US Cancels Visas for Hungarian Officials Over Corruption Allegations

how long people will use the dollar? Not long. Who would like his money to be controlled by sociopaths?

1) No sign of anyone moving away from the USD.

2) You prefer that corruption is ignored, or encouraged? I prefer our way (punishing corruption).

 

[senheiser]

1) No sign of anyone moving away from the USD.

2) You prefer that corruption is ignored, or encouraged? I prefer our way (punishing corruption).

then start with yourself instead lecturing other countries

 

[vostok]

Hungarian are freedom-loving people. They have always rebelled against foreign rule - against Austria, against USSR. And now they are trying to get rid of the American occupation.

 

[Penguin]

Hungarian are freedom-loving people. They have always rebelled against foreign rule - against Austria, against USSR. And now they are trying to get rid of the American occupation.

What occupation? There isn't even a US military base in Hungary. Presence of US military in Hungary is less than 100.

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Hungary became a member of NATO in 1999, and a member of the EU in 2004. Hungary also has improved its often frosty neighborly relations by signing basic treaties with Romania, Slovakia, and Ukraine.

 

[vostok]

What occupation? There isn't even a US military base in Hungary. Presence of US military in Hungary is less than 100.

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Hungary became a member of NATO in 1999, and a member of the EU in 2004. Hungary also has improved its often frosty neighborly relations by signing basic treaties with Romania, Slovakia, and Ukraine.

Ok, occupation is not the correct term. Although NATO is a mechanism for control the American vassals in Europe.
Hungarian policy demonstrate the desire for the sovereignty, and Brussels and Washington do not like it.

 

[Penguin]

Ok, occupation is not the correct term. Although NATO is a mechanism for control the American vassals in Europe.
Hungarian policy demonstrate the desire for the sovereignty, and Brussels and Washington do not like it.

One could of course say the same about the Collective Security Treaty that Russia has with Belarus, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan, or - prior to that - the Warsaw Pact.

What do you mean Brussel and Washington? The article above refers to US imposing sanctions against some Hungarian officials and businessmen over their alleged involvement in corruption. There isn't a word about EU imposing sanctions in there. Quite to the contrary: EU to Ignore Norway’s Call for Measures against Hungary - Emerging Europe Real Time - WSJ

Imho that kind of agitprop wording detracts from your credibility as a substantive expert. Just my 2c.

 

[vostok]

One could of course say the same about the Collective Security Treaty that Russia has with Belarus, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan, or - prior to that - the Warsaw Pact.

What do you mean Brussel and Washington? The article above refers to US imposing sanctions against some Hungarian officials and businessmen over their alleged involvement in corruption. There isn't a word about EU imposing sanctions in there. Quite to the contrary: EU to Ignore Norway’s Call for Measures against Hungary - Emerging Europe Real Time - WSJ

Imho that kind of agitprop wording detracts from your credibility as a substantive expert. Just my 2c.

The creation of NATO had 2 goals - to control Germany and France and threaten the USSR. When the Soviet Union is gone, then there was one problem - to prevent the emergence of an independent policy in Europe.
In recent years, Brussels has repeatedly criticised the Hungarian position. Hungarians "dared" to make Christianity as Constitution religion. Hungarians resist homosexualization of society. But most importantly - that they dared to limit the power of the Central Bank! Hungary under pressure made some concessions, but not changed in principle anti-liberal, patriotic position.
Now Washington is even beginning to impose sanctions and recently Orban was called "putinist". For Hungarians that word means - patriotism, paternalism, protectionism, traditional society. But for the West "Putinism" - it's something nasty, anti-homosexual, too male and too traditional.
CSTO and the EAU - is an attempt to re-integrate a single country, almoust 100% of adult population of wich have a note in passport "Born in the USSR."
Expansion and the very existence of NATO is quite another.

 

[Penguin]

That is one way of viewing it. Not all subscribe to that view.

The Alliance’s creation was part of a broader effort to serve three purposes: deterring Soviet expansionism, forbidding the revival of nationalist militarism in Europe through a strong North American presence on the continent, and encouraging European political integration.

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Why wouldn't 'Brussels' (or rather certain EU countries) criticise Hungary? At one point or another, any and all EU members get criticised or have been criticised by other EU members. This is part of the process. If you can't deal with it, don't join, don't take the benefits.

I'm still not seeing EU sanctions alongside the aforementioned US sanctions.

 

[vostok]

That is one way of viewing it. Not all subscribe to that view.

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NATO History

Why wouldn't 'Brussels' (or rather certain EU countries) criticise Hungary? At one point or another, any and all EU members get criticised or have been criticised by other EU members. This is part of the process. If you can't deal with it, don't join, don't take the benefits.

I'm still not seeing EU sanctions alongside the aforementioned US sanctions.

And where I talked about the EU sanctions? I wrote about the pressure and EU dissatisfaction with the policy of Hungary.
Hungarian Government Puts European Conservatives in Tough Spot - SPIEGEL ONLINE
The rise of Putinism - The Washington Post
Amid EU Criticism, Hungary Remains Resolute | Catholic World Report - Global Church news and views
EUROPA - PRESS RELEASES - Press release - European Commission launches accelerated infringement proceedings against Hungary over the independence of its central bank and data protection authorities as well as over measures affecting the judiciary
And so on.

 

[Penguin]

Ok, occupation is not the correct term. Although NATO is a mechanism for control the American vassals in Europe.
Hungarian policy demonstrate the desire for the sovereignty, and Brussels and Washington do not like it.

Here, and the underlined has yet to be documented.

It is rather lame to come up with examples of EU countries criticising Hungary, after I already pointed out the recent case of Norway. Nothing new is added.

 

[vostok]

Here, and the underlined has yet to be documented.

It is rather lame to come up with examples of EU countries criticising Hungary, after I already pointed out the recent case of Norway. Nothing new is added.

I wrote that Brussels and Washington do not like independent policy of Budapest. Wrote that Hungary is under pressure. And also wrote about the sanctions of Washington. But I did not write a word about the EU sanctions, right?
Budapest - the black sheep of the European Union. Christianity, strong family, and patriotism - these principles are rejected by Brussels, so Hungary is under pressure, and Orban is called "putinist".