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US and Europe must join together to FIGHT Asian superpower
EUROPE and the US should put their trade tensions aside and join forces to fight China, according to Donald Trump's envoy to Brussels.
By SIMON OSBORNE
PUBLISHED: 08:21, Thu, Feb 7, 2019
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Gordon Sondland, US ambassador to the EU, said the two sides should combine their energies and take on to Beijing on three fronts: economically, from an intelligence standpoint and militarily. Mr Sondland described China’s growing global influence as malign and called for Washington and Brussels to “link arms” to challenge it. He said: "We have a $40 trillion combined GDP, there is nothing on the planet that is more powerful than that.

"We should combine our mutual energies to meet China and check China in multiple respects: economically, from an intelligence standpoint, militarily.

"That's where the EU and US really should be linking arms.”

Mr Sondland urged "a quick resolution that would move our trade relationship in the right direction so that we can both turn toward China, which is really the future problem in multiple respects”.

But insiders warned the odds remained stacked against a quick fix with Washington demanding difficult concessions from Europe while Brussels accuses the US of trying to blackmail the EU with tariff threats.

Mr Trump and European Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker reached a truce in July and last month both sides delivered negotiating objectives for a planned trade deal.

But progress is being hampered by the EU’s refusal to discuss greater market access for US agricultural products and American reluctance to accept reductions in duties on European cars.

The EU made a similar pitch to Washington last year when French President Emmanuel Macron visited the White House and called for joint action against Chinese trade practices such as heavy subsidies, forced technology transfer and state-owned enterprises.

Mr Sondland linked his criticism of Beijing's practices to Chinese telecoms giant Huawei which is the main target of a US campaign advising Europeans not to use Chinese companies when building their 5G networks.

He said: “We want to keep critical infrastructure in the Western world out of Chinese malign influence.

"Someone from the Politburo in Beijing picks up the phone and says 'I wanna listen in on the following conversation, I wanna run a certain car off the road that's on the 5G network and kill the person that's in it,' there's nothing that company legally can do today in China to prevent the Chinese government from making that request successfully."

Huawei rejected the allegations and insisted the company “has a clean track record on cybersecurity" and is "committed to work with European institutions to develop a cybersecurity standard for Europe”.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...r-3-usa-european-union-china-global-trade-war
 
"Someone from the Politburo in Beijing picks up the phone and says 'I wanna listen in on the following conversation, I wanna run a certain car off the road that's on the 5G network and kill the person that's in it,' there's nothing that company legally can do today in China to prevent the Chinese government from making that request successfully."
Crazy claim, who was killed in a 5G car?
 
All this to save declining value of 'Apple'? They should go back to it's basics that Late Steve Jobs brought to this company - Innovation.
 
Europe is being fooled like crazy to get into a war that is not theirs. I don't understand why don't the EU members really do something of their own and have a stand. They have been NATO puppets for so long that they have developed a comfort zone around them.

Netherlands and France were the only European countries who tried to resist Trump's bullying and they failed --- all because rest of European countries didn't support them.

While I am neutral towards either side (due to historical factors), Europeans really need to stand on their own feet rather than being told what to do.
 
Crazy claim, who was killed in a 5G car?

It's a hypothetical scenario. It's very far-fetched, but that's what every security planners do to prepare themselves for any possible contingencies.

Although very exaggerated and unlikely, there's an element of truth in the argument. There's nothing a company legally can do to turn down the request from the government, no matter how absurd it is, because the CPC controls all 3 branches of government power: executive, legislative and judicial. There's no separation of power, and other countries will naturally be suspicious.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/pol...paration-powers-chinas-top-graft-buster-seeks
 
Although very exaggerated and unlikely, there's an element of truth in the argument. There's nothing a company legally can do to turn down the request from the government, no matter how absurd it is
It's kind of true in every country, US also bans many high tech companies doing business with China.

Although very exaggerated and unlikely, there's an element of truth in the argument. There's nothing a company legally can do to turn down the request from the government, no matter how absurd it is,
The most absurd ban in the history was Prohibition in the United States, US actually totally banned alcohol, no countries ever did it during the whole human history, how ridiculous was that.
 
It's kind of true in every country, US also bans many high tech companies doing business with China.

And they need the blessings from the legislative power.

BEIJING (REUTERS) - China's Foreign Ministry said on Thursday (Jan 17) that proposed US legislation targeting Huawei, ZTE and other Chinese telecommunications equipment companies was due to "hysteria", and urged US lawmakers to stop the Bills.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/e...lation-against-huawei-and-zte-due-to-hysteria

China can 'urge' US lawmakers, but can the US 'urge' the People's Congress to veto a bill from Xi? I mean Xi can even change the constitution and the passing rate is like 99.9%.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/03/03/technology/apple-iphone-fbi-fight-explained.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/13/media/cnn-sues-trump/index.html

You can argue otherwise but deep down you know that China is very differently constituted, for the good and for the bad. It's a fact. And one of the bad is that the government can only be checked by moral imperatives and the fear of a rebellion; there's no legal constraint on the government's powers. Other countries fear that.
 
And they need the blessings from the legislative power.



https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/e...lation-against-huawei-and-zte-due-to-hysteria

China can 'urge' US lawmakers, but can the US 'urge' the People's Congress to veto a bill from Xi? I mean Xi can even change the constitution and the passing rate is like 99.9%.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/03/03/technology/apple-iphone-fbi-fight-explained.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/13/media/cnn-sues-trump/index.html

You can argue otherwise but deep down you know that China is very differently constituted, for the good and for the bad. It's a fact. And one of the bad is that the government can only be checked by moral imperatives and the fear of a rebellion; there's no legal constraint on the government's powers. Other countries fear that.
Don't worry, China will never ban alcohol.
 
Europe is being fooled like crazy to get into a war that is not theirs. I don't understand why don't the EU members really do something of their own and have a stand. They have been NATO puppets for so long that they have developed a comfort zone around them.

Netherlands and France were the only European countries who tried to resist Trump's bullying and they failed --- all because rest of European countries didn't support them.

While I am neutral towards either side (due to historical factors), Europeans really need to stand on their own feet rather than being told what to do.

because European union has turned into Sissy Union, they dont have men to fight and they dont want to send the few they have to fight and as long as US is fighting they are happy to go along.
 
because European union has turned into Sissy Union, they dont have men to fight and they dont want to send the few they have to fight and as long as US is fighting they are happy to go along.

They really won't have to fight if they weren't a part of NATO. Russia sees EU as a cash cow for its gas supply and that is their revenue source. Russia itself has 50X more resources than entire Europe combined. Why would they want to destroy their income source?

Their interest remains only those territories which were a part of Russian empire and had to do away with after Soviet breakdown; former Soviet states are very resource rich and also share a tremendously common cultural and linguistic identity with Russians (notwithstanding the hairline differences in the so-called "different" languages they call "different" :lol:).

US is only creating fights around the world to fuel their military corporations which control the Democrats and Republicans.

The only president who is trying his level best to fight against this shadow elite is Trump. He may be impulsive or may just be doing this for his personal ego 'to show who's the boss', but at least he is trying. No other president dared to oppose the military industrial complex, without suffering political or even personal blowback.
 

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