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'US, an invader in savior's disguise'

Do you love the Russians? They are the biggest enemies of 'evil'. lol

And you must be evading all your taxes, so as not to help the friends of the evil... right?

And you must hate Pakistan which has always sought the help of the 'evil.

Can't believe you are old enough to procreate.

What do you gain by making cheap remarks about me. Get back on thread topic. I have no interest in talking to someone like you that has no manners or etiquette
 
What do you gain by making cheap remarks about me. Get back on thread topic. I have no interest in talking to someone like you that has no manners or etiquette

Yup... I gain same thing by making not so cheap remarks about you, that you gain by making utterly senseless remarks about other nations.

And mannerism and etiquette... I don't need to be told by those who celebrate the death of others.


So thanks, but no thanks. :toast_sign:
 
Yup... I gain same thing by making not so cheap remarks about you, that you gain by making utterly senseless remarks about other nations.

And mannerism and etiquette... I don't need to be told by those who celebrate the death of others.



I would respond but its like throwing pearls to swine talking to you
 
I would respond but its like throwing pearls to swine talking to you

I do not mind being called a swine, or a dog, or any other animal, they are all creations of God and I respect them just as much as I respect God, and fellow humans.

Now please get back on topic and refer to the post # 15. I would love to see your insight on that!
 
Ok look at at Iraq. US ambassador albright when questioned on tv about iraqi and kuwait relations said it was an arab problem and US would not get involved. ie u gave a green light to saddam. Even if you just wanted regime change America could have taken Saddam out without killing hundreds of thousands of innocents through sanctions and wars.

Please tell me you are not blaming Saddam's invasion of Kuwait on the U.S., because you insinuate this rather strongly. "If not for Albright's tacit approval, or at the least, non-interference statement, Saddam wouldn't have invaded Kuwait." Is that it?

Behind the Albright smoke screen, it is obvious that a Muslim nation (Iraq) wanted to attack another.

And dont tell me that oil did not play a part in america going in.

Not this tired rhetoric again. Look up the companies and nations that recieved oil contracts in Iraq. Next, calculate the cost of waging a war vs. simply buying the oil openly on the world market. I'd venture it to be 100X the price. Finally, look at where Iraq falls on oil imports to the U.S. It is a tiny, tiny amount, down at #7, FAR behind even Colombia.

ftp://ftp.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html Oil imports by nation to the U.S.

With that said, most people in the U.S. believe the Iraq war was a dumb thing... but at least Saddam and his buddies like "Chemical Ali" are now history.

Oh and 9-11 i remember watching tv on the day it happend and i was sickened by the attack. I even wanted to help in any way that I could and wanted to give money to any charity that could help and my heart went out to the americans.

Your sentiment is appreciated.

However that changed when I saw the disproportionate response in americas response.

The response to 9-11 was the invasion of Afghanistan, initially by about 200 Americans. With the Northern Alliance assisted by U.S. Air Power, the Taliban were ejected from Kabul.

Our response should have included immediate and harsh destruction of al Quaeda, the training camps, and the Taliban who supported them. Then, we should have left, leaving behind an obvious message - "If you export violence again, we will return." No nation-building.

I dont normally hate but in the case of the american government I make an exception. To be honest I dont even think that the US govt even looks after or represents its own poor and downtrodden

I think you have been bombarded for 10 years with the worst sort of imaginary rhetoric. If the term "Millions killed" is said 10,000 times over, people believe it. I know you won't believe this, but the U.S. hand in Afghanistan has been extraordinarily light. Even in Iraq... remember the battle for Fallujah?

Fallujah was a nest, a base of operations, for insurgents. Let's ignore the politics, the motivations for a moment, and look only at the operation. You (an American) are tasked with neutralizing Fallujah. You have two choices:

1) We could bomb Fallujah with B-52's back to the stone age. Level every building. Turn it into dust and rubble. The Iraqi casualties would have been staggering. But the U.S. casualties... ZERO.

2) We could clean it out in harsh, house-to-house urban combat. Target insurgents but not civilians. Iraqi casualties - much less. U.S. casualties - way up.

Which did we do? If we are eeeevil, why did we do it that way?
 
Stop blaming the USA for all your problems. The problem is all the people in the country who allows this to happen. Your country in divided with the will do and the will do nothing. Stop complaining and correct your mistakes. The USA blame game is OVER. We allow all to come into our country (USA) sick, poor, broken, with religion, without religion, every color, and every language. What about your country? Correct your problems step up and be a real people...GOD is waiting...
 
Excellant expose of americans that I would like to share with all on the forum

But of course you have also revealed that the tyranny in Arabia that on one hand uses the US as it's shield, also uses propaganda against the US, to keep the population scared and to keep themselves in power.

At the same time, I think few will dispute that the US is desperate to hijack the so called "Arab spring" and they have a partner in this endeavor, it is none other than Saudi Arabia - Saudi Arabia led the Arab league effort to approve of the NATO action in Libya, and similarly it is Saudi Arabia that has led US policy in the middle east, so far as Syria is concerned.

You will note that while "Liberties" are good enough to initiate military action in Libya and Syria, the people of Saudi Arabia and Bahrain (Home to the US 5th fleet) are not worthy of such "liberties" because tyrannies run by monarchs are "different" from those run by secular non sectarian despots -- It is therefore no surprise that the Qatari financed arms for the Libyans and the Saudis have armed the Syrian "rebels". After the destruction of those two regimes, expect sectarian religiously inclined regimes, aligned with Arabia. Because Iran is evil, of course.
 

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