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Toller said his country had no influence on Yemeni parties to impose a ceasefire in the war since September 2014.

"Toller," the head of the US diplomatic mission, said in an interview with Radio. (Public Radio International PRI) "
The conflict is basically Yemeni, not Saudi Arabian.

"The Saudis have intervened on behalf of Yemenis who feel they are in a weaker military position and want to resume this peaceful transition," Toller said.

"It is clear that a political solution is the solution that will involve all parties, whether the legitimate government or those who seek to overthrow the legitimate government. For the sake of the Yemenis, some concessions must be made by all parties," he said.
"We simply do not have the power on the groups that are actually fighting on the ground, this is a civil war."
"Yemenis are fighting among themselves and until we get some mechanisms to force the Yemenis to retreat and make political concessions, the conflict will continue," he said.


Source: Yemen Press - Washington
 
This topic has been discussed to death 100 times before.

Houthis have no legitimacy. They are a a less than 25 year old terrorist sect who have waged several wars against the Yemeni state including against their new "friend" and "ally" Ali Abdullah Saleh.

Hadi is the legitimate president (as per the UN) and he represents the legitimate Yemeni nation and army while the Houthis and Ali Abdullah Saleh (former ousted Yemeni dictator that ruled for almost 40 years) are incompetent and qat-addicted people.

KSA and the Arab coalition intervened in Yemen 6 months after the Houthis made a violent coup in September 2014.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houthi_takeover_in_Yemen

Anyway the Houthis/Saleh are getting spanked by a few 1000 Saudi Arabian/Arab soldiers acting as advisers mainly (with minimal casualties) and the Yemeni army that we are helping restructure, train and rearm. They are on loan basically.

85% + of Yemen is in our control including all the most strategic areas (ports, cities, areas where the oil and gas is) etc. Gaining invaluable experience conducting a large-scale war like this that no other regional country has experienced in the past 30 + years (since the Iraq-Iran war).

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Those are the facts.

Risk Intelligence #Yemen map featured on Japanese national TV NHK @nhk_newshttps://www.nhk.or.jp/kokusaihoudou/archive/2017/07/0721.html …

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Hadi is not relevant here (the person) but the institution he represents which is the legitimate Yemeni government that was ousted for no reason by a incompetent and qat addicted terrorist movement (Houthis) that does not even represent Yemeni Zaydis. A terrorist movement that has waged several wars against the Yemeni state previously, including against their now new "friend" and "ally" Ali Abdullah Saleh.

Sana'a is of no strategic importance other than being one of the most beautiful cities in the world and most ancient with some of the best preserved old neighborhoods and a unique architecture (like most Yemeni and other Arabian cities).

BTW the legitimate Yemeni army and the Arab coalition are 30 km away from Sana'a as can be seen by the map I posted and every other that you can find

Then why did they bring the Saudis to the conflict of there country if they are divided

KSA along with the Arab coalition (numerous Arab countries) have interfered in Yemen in order to restore legitimacy and not allow an highly incompetent 25 year old terrorist sect (Houthis) to create a new Afghanistan or Somalia next door. This won't be allowed nor will the Yemenis allow it to happen.

BUT (a big but, not butt) the Yemeni UN ambassador is correct here. This current civil war is not a new conflict or a new thing and KSA has not created it nor any other Arab nation. However we are a party to the conflict albeit minimal nowadays (limited to our air force, border guards, special forces etc.). Most of the current fighting (as should be the case) is done by the Yemeni army.

As another user here rightly wrote in another thread, "The day Yemeni and coalition forcesiberate houdeidah it would.be end of houthis and saleh , coalition forces made hugenadvancement in taiz including liberation of.khalidnbin waleed camp".

Basically it is UN's bitching that has slowed down the process a bit as the Houthis/Salehs sole connection to the outside world is Hudaydah. However as every terrorists group, they are using civilians as their shields and as bargain chips. Did not work in Ta'iz recently where a few Houthis were lynched by civilians (Zaydis).

KSA won't fall into a trap of being dragged into a never ending war which our few incompetent enemies are hoping for which is why large scale involvement ended long ago despite continuous advancements.

The same enemy retards are talking about downing a Saudi Arabian frigate (another one apparently) when no such thing has ever occurred. The only attack on a Saudi Arabian/Arab coalition vessel was a suicide bomb attack that killed 3 sailors and only partially destroyed a vessel (that is now back in service). Pathetic morons.

Before those same pathetic morons begin to bark, they should have in mind that a similar attack once took place against the US in Aden back in 2000. USS Cole (guided-missile destroyer) that killed 17 sailors and wounded 39.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing
 
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Hadi presidential term was over back in Feb 2014 and he extended it for one and half years illegally ... he was chosen as president of transient Gov only for two years and had to hold presidential election .. he didn't .. in fact Hadi was the vice president of Saleh former president of Yemen for 17 years since 1994 the same Gov people protested against it back in 2011 during Arab spring ... people seeking change when they voted him in 2012 and he failed ..that's why after months of peaceful protests when they noticed their revolution and voice were not heard they made him to step down ... and at best it was an internal issue btw Yemeni people which thanks to American and their allies in the region turned to an regional issue with thousands of civilians dead and destruction of Yemen infrastructures ...
 
This topic has been discussed to death 100 times before.

Houthis have no legitimacy. They are a a less than 25 year old terrorist sect who have waged several wars against the Yemeni state including against their new "friend" and "ally" Ali Abdullah Saleh.

Hadi is the legitimate president (as per the UN) and he represents the legitimate Yemeni nation and army while the Houthis and Ali Abdullah Saleh (former ousted Yemeni dictator that ruled for almost 40 years) are incompetent and qat-addicted people.

KSA and the Arab coalition intervened in Yemen 6 months after the Houthis made a violent coup in September 2014.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houthi_takeover_in_Yemen

Anyway the Houthis/Saleh are getting spanked by a few 1000 Saudi Arabian/Arab soldiers acting as advisers mainly (with minimal casualties) and the Yemeni army that we are helping restructure, train and rearm. They are on loan basically.

85% + of Yemen is in our control including all the most strategic areas (ports, cities, areas where the oil and gas is) etc. Gaining invaluable experience conducting a large-scale war like this that no other regional country has experienced in the past 30 + years (since the Iraq-Iran war).

DGs3wu4XcAA1V-r.png:large


Those are the facts.

Risk Intelligence #Yemen map featured on Japanese national TV NHK @nhk_newshttps://www.nhk.or.jp/kokusaihoudou/archive/2017/07/0721.html …

DGx4QH3XkAAjldk.jpg



Hadi is not relevant here (the person) but the institution he represents which is the legitimate Yemeni government that was ousted for no reason by a incompetent and qat addicted terrorist movement (Houthis) that does not even represent Yemeni Zaydis. A terrorist movement that has waged several wars against the Yemeni state previously, including against their now new "friend" and "ally" Ali Abdullah Saleh.

Sana'a is of no strategic importance other than being one of the most beautiful cities in the world and most ancient with some of the best preserved old neighborhoods and a unique architecture (like most Yemeni and other Arabian cities).

BTW the legitimate Yemeni army and the Arab coalition are 30 km away from Sana'a as can be seen by the map I posted and every other that you can find



KSA along with the Arab coalition (numerous Arab countries) have interfered in Yemen in order to restore legitimacy and not allow an highly incompetent 25 year old terrorist sect (Houthis) to create a new Afghanistan or Somalia next door. This won't be allowed nor will the Yemenis allow it to happen.

BUT (a big but, not butt) the Yemeni UN ambassador is correct here. This current civil war is not a new conflict or a new thing and KSA has not created it nor any other Arab nation. However we are a party to the conflict albeit minimal nowadays (limited to our air force, border guards, special forces etc.). Most of the current fighting (as should be the case) is done by the Yemeni army.

As another user here rightly wrote in another thread, "The day Yemeni and coalition forcesiberate houdeidah it would.be end of houthis and saleh , coalition forces made hugenadvancement in taiz including liberation of.khalidnbin waleed camp".

Basically it is UN's bitching that has slowed down the process a bit as the Houthis/Salehs sole connection to the outside world is Hudaydah. However as every terrorists group, they are using civilians as their shields and as bargain chips. Did not work in Ta'iz recently where a few Houthis were lynched by civilians (Zaydis).

KSA won't fall into a trap of being dragged into a never ending war which our few incompetent enemies are hoping for which is why large scale involvement ended long ago despite continuous advancements.

The same enemy retards are talking about downing a Saudi Arabian frigate (another one apparently) when no such thing has ever occurred. The only attack on a Saudi Arabian/Arab coalition vessel was a suicide bomb attack that killed 3 sailors and only partially destroyed a vessel (that is now back in service). Pathetic morons.

Before those same pathetic morons begin to bark, they should have in mind that a similar attack once took place against the US in Aden back in 2000. USS Cole (guided-missile destroyer) that killed 17 sailors and wounded 39.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing
Can you tell me exactly which legal organization hadi represent.

As far as I'm aware in 2012 he elected for a two year term as interim president and he was expected to health an election so people of Yemen could choose a president but he decided like many of Arab president that its fun to be president for life.
And he control nothing but his room in the undiscosedship or bunker outside the Yemen.

I was wondering what would Arab Islamic but American summit say about that?
WHO records half a million cholera cases in Yemen
This thread anwsered my question.


I personally hold both Iran and a handful of Arab monarch responsible for misery and true foreign interference in region.
Well first show us one Iranian advisor in Yemen then blame us.
 
Hadi presidential term was over back in Feb 2014 and he extended it for one and half years illegally ... he was chosen as president of transient Gov only for two years and had to hold presidential election .. he didn't .. in fact Hadi was the vice president of Saleh former president of Yemen for 17 years since 1994 the same Gov people protested against it back in 2011 during Arab spring ... people seeking change when they voted him in 2012 and he failed ..that's why after months of peaceful protests when they noticed their revolution and voice were not heard they made him to step down ... and at best it was an internal issue btw Yemeni people which thanks to American and their allies in the region turned to an regional issue with thousands of civilians dead and destruction of Yemen infrastructures ...

It was not extended illegally.

It is natural for people in power to have belonged to previous regimes. Especially if such a regime (Ali Abdullah Saleh) has ruled for almost 40 + years. Hadi was never a prominent figure during the rule of Ali Abdullah Saleh. His position was similar to the positions of various vice presidents during the era of Saddam Hussein. That should give you an idea about his influence and role.

Hadi's government was on the right track and gave unprecedented autonomy to both the North and South (all provinces of Yemen):

What a joke. So using violence and killing 1000's of people in order to take control of Sana'a and large parts of Yemen, is now legitimate? What was the crime of the Hadi government exactly? Did they attack the Houthi cult? The same Houthi cult that has waged several wars against the Yemeni state?

If not for KSA involvement Yemen would be much worse off. KSA and the Arab coalition saved Yemen from total destruction and misery.

I was wondering what would Arab Islamic but American summit say about that?
WHO records half a million cholera cases in Yemen
This thread anwsered my question.


I personally hold both Iran and a handful of Arab monarch responsible for misery and true foreign interference in region.

With all due respect, are you not a citizen of the only NATO member in the region and does your nation not host US military bases? Is your nation not the best buddy with Israel (out of all regional powers), which is an Western implant in the region? Your comment makes no sense and you know it.

BTW is the failed Syrian policy of Erdogan also the fault of "a handful of Arab monarchies" and Iran? Your governments (Erdogan) policy is the main cause for the "Kurdish problem" in Syria. I would understand if such comment was coming from a North Korean or Cuban but come on!

Can you tell me exactly which legal organization hadi represent.

As far as I'm aware in 2012 he elected for a two year term as interim president and he was expected to health an election so people of Yemen could choose a president but he decided like many of Arab president that its fun to be president for life.
And he control nothing but his room in the undiscosedship or bunker outside the Yemen.


Well first show us one Iranian advisor in Yemen then blame us.

The Yemeni state. The highest and most important organization in Yemen. Certainly more important than some 25 year old qat-addicted terrorist sect (Houthis) or some ousted former incompetent dictator (Ali Abdullah Saleh).

Explained in this very post. You have no idea about that. He was the president for less than 3 years. Nothing pointed to him being another Saleh ruling for almost 40 years. In fact his age would have made such a thing impossible. Besides Yemen had just undergone a little civil war that ousted Saleh. Stability was needed.
 
I was wondering what would Arab Islamic but American summit say about that?
WHO records half a million cholera cases in Yemen
This thread anwsered my question.


I personally hold both Iran and a handful of Arab monarch responsible for misery and true foreign interference in region.
On one hand we have Saudi Arabia and its coalition + American that have blockade Yemen for more than 2 years they have bombed hell out of Yemeni people and razed its infrastructures to the ground ....
What Iran has done?

If not for KSA involvement Yemen would be much worse off. KSA and the Arab coalition saved Yemen from total destruction and misery.

I do agree ...
 
are you not a citizen of the only NATO member in the region and does your nation not host US military bases? Is your nation not the best buddy with Israel (out of all regional powers)
Yes, I am. I would like to keep my friends close, enemies closer.
Your comment makes no sense and you know it.
It does as it gets you.
BTW is the failed Syrian policy of Erdogan also the fault of "a handful of Arab monarchies" and Iran? Your governments (Erdogan) policy is the main cause for the "Kurdish problem" in Syria.
It isn't failed but extreme rocky. Turkish Armed Forces is still in Syria despite heavy US objection, new operations on the way. Iranian Armed Forces general (the other side of war) pays his first foreign visit to Turkey a NATO member to disccuss our (yours, Iran's and Turkey's) region. Then those Astana talks etc. Stop talking accordingly with columns you read. The game goes on.
 
Yes, I am. I would like to keep my friends close, enemies closer.
It does as it gets you.
It isn't failed but extreme rocky. Turkish Armed Forces is still in Syria despite heavy US objection, new operations on the way. Iranian Armed Forces general (the other side of war) pays his first foreign visit to Turkey a NATO member to disccuss our (yours, Iran's and Turkey's) region. Then those Astana talks etc. Stop talking accordingly with columns you read. The game goes on.

So you are basically saying that you have joined an exclusive group of "enemies" (NATO) and you are moreover even hosting those enemies in your own country. The biggest "enemy" implant in the region (Israel) you have better ties to (economic and military) than every other regional country.

Is that how "enemies" are dealt with in your eyes?

If that is the case, KSA having close ties to the US and other regional countries, can use the same excuse.

It does not. I was simply baffled by the hypocrisy and contradiction. You won't ever see me complaining about regional countries having ties to the West when KSA/GCC/many Arab countries are no different.

I would consider it very failed. Where were the Kurds a few years ago? Limited to a tiny geographical area of Northeastern Syria. Now they have ventured out of their villages and conquered (temporary hopefully) non-Kurdish (Arab and Turkmen) areas. All this happened across the border right under your (Erdogan's) nose. This is called failure.

Yeah, those Saudi tanks, helicopters, jets and soldiers in Yemen aren't a party to it either.

What a joke.

Obviously you did not understand what he meant or was alluding to. No surprise.
 
The Yemeni state. The highest and most important organization in Yemen. Certainly more important than some 25 year old qat-addicted terrorist sect (Houthis) or some ousted former incompetent dictator (Ali Abdullah Saleh).

Explained in this very post. You have no idea about that. He was the president for less than 3 years. Nothing pointed to him being another Saleh ruling for almost 40 years. In fact his age would have made such a thing impossible. Besides Yemen had just undergone a little civil war that ousted Saleh. Stability was needed.
he wont represent the yemen state as his term was over
and the fact that he didn't held the election point to him being another Saleh and his age had nothing to do with it lokk at our beloved Mugabe . and the way to stability in Yemen was election and vote of people not extending your own term in a country that had experienced Saleh just 2 years ago.
 
he wont represent the yemen state as his term was over
and the fact that he didn't held the election point to him being another Saleh and his age had nothing to do with it lokk at our beloved Mugabe . and the way to stability in Yemen was election and vote of people not extending your own term in a country that had experienced Saleh just 2 years ago.

He is recognized by the UN as the current Yemeni president.

No, elections cannot be held in a country where a large part of it has been attacked by a terrorist cult sect (Houthis). That's like holding elections in Syria right now as Al-Assad has proposed. Elections were scheduled to take place before the Houthis/Saleh loyalists made a violent coup in Yemen.

Before that coup Hadi had given unprecedented (for the first time since the unification in 1994) autonomy to Northern and Southern provinces which was seen as a great step by the people.


Remember, it was not Hadi (Yemeni army) and his loyal tribes and allies that attacked Houthi occupied areas of Northern Yemen (Saada).
 
Obviously you did not understand what he meant or was alluding to. No surprise.
It doesn't matter what he says. Talk is cheap. Most of the time politicians' words are worthless.

Everyone knows Saudi has vested interests in Yemen, just like every country has vested interests in every other country in this Godforesaken region.
 

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