UP man ‘spreading word of Christ’ held

[Areesh]

If you compare both the cases, one is detained, other is death. If you feel no difference between the both... no wonder religious minorities are annihilated in pakistan

So your weak defense to your position in this thread revolves around the word death. Well let me tell you kid. Even before the paris incident. Even before when those 10 cartoonists were killed you anti Islamic bigots from India used to say that we muslims should ignore those cartoons and should respect them since they are according to the right of free speech and are completely lawful under Danish and French laws.

But when it comes to India. You deny your own citizen his freedom to speech and try to hide behind a few despite the fact that you position no matter how weak was the same even before the Paris attack.

So again why Indian state is denying freedom of expression to its people while you guys are so vehemently supporting French people right to speech.

Start it and see the response.

I start t? Why not you? Or being a hypocrite bigot of India stops you?

 

[Dubious]

Tensions are running high in U.P. and maybe more in that area.Locals complained that he is using forceful meausres to convert people and thats why he has been held to avoid clashes between communities.Police will carry out there investigations and then he will be released/jailed according to finding of the investigatiions,after that he could preach his religion.

Did you read OP:
He was not found using force to convert anyone. from

UP man ‘spreading word of Christ’ held - The Times of India

 

[StormShadow]

its not our fault India is doing these jibe inviting things! How is it a jibe at India when pointing out the obvious? Why so sensitive?
A trip to detention/ court or whatever is not an invitation! Again compare yourselves with a secular country not a non secular one...
You are the one comparing SECULAR India with NOT SECULAR Pakistan ...talk about lame

Your predefined notion that Pakistan is a non secular nation and religious freedom is not important[your posts imply the same] itself is very flawed.

 

[Dubious]

You run all over this forum telling people to read about Islam before making an opinion about it based on actions of what Islamic extremists do, so why double standards now? read about it before condemning it. Or stop preaching to others.

Have you forgotten I use that as the last strategy after repeating myself for 13 hrs for 3 days do I say that....and also after the same person comes with the same question just on a different thread! But before I say that...there is always a 3 days time period where I reason with the person quoting things from the Quran with explanations so as not to make it tough on them for searching ....So please dont equate me to 1 of your comment of go read it!


Yo man! I quoted Indians claiming something!

As i said that he can preach Christianity as much as he wants when the situation cools down.This is done all the time in India.Case in point When Muslims celebrate there festivals where they beat themselves(Muharram?),Hindu nationalistic groups like RSS especially VHP and Bajarang Dal are told to keep a low profile to avoid unnecessary tensions.However TOI has a habit of sensationalising every thing and hence you are reading this news

Then explain these:

The fact that he went to the extent of preaching his religion says that he was more than welcome. And if you cannot comprehend properly, it's nobody's fault. I'll explain it to you... he was detained for trying to propagate his religion in a volatile atmosphere. Not because he was practicing his religion.

Indian constitution has put some restriction on freedom of speech and religion, maybe reading up more on that will be more helpful than knowing the definition of the word.

Again without reading it you are assuming things. but hey everyone has a right to have an opinion.

I am pointing out what I read and Indians told me...Nothing from my own! but hey everyone has the rights to BS to others in one thread and then say it is wrong in another thread

 

[notsuperstitious]

India was the first country anywhere to ban Satanic Verses. Many Indian states also banned Da Vinci Code on the same grounds.

Reason - communal harmony and law and order.

Yes, that's the limit to free speech in India. Its not absolute. This guy must have done something different, otherwise there are hundreds of orgs speading Christianity and doing daawa openly in big ceremonies all over India. Certainly you have seen with proud amusement the big jalsaas of Zakir Naik the moron? Nobody gets arrested only for preaching.

Also before the ''hate Modi'' brigade arrives (too late), UP is run by Mullayam Singh, the arch nemesis of BJP an more pious than the house of Saud and law and order is a 100% state subject.

You run all over this forum telling people to read about Islam before making an opinion about it based on actions of what Islamic extremists do, so why double standards now? read about it before condemning it. Or stop preaching to others.

You are talking to a terrorism apologist. Asking them to comprehend anything is asking too much.

 

[Dubious]

Your predefined notion that Pakistan is a non secular nation and religious freedom is not important[your posts imply the same] itself is very flawed.

Adding things into a sentence or hallucinating when you saw that?

How is it flawed? Our constitution is not secular

Then again this is not about Pakistan this is happening in INDIA answer for your own nation!

 

[StormShadow]

So your weak defense to your position in this thread revolves around the word death. Well let me tell you kid. Even before the paris incident. Even before when those 10 cartoonists were killed you anti Islamic bigots from India used to say that we muslims should ignore those cartoons and should respect them since they are according to the right of free speech and are completely lawful under Danish and French laws.

But when it comes to India. You deny your own citizen his freedom to speech and try to hide behind a few despite the fact that you position no matter how weak was the same even before the Paris attack.

So again why Indian state is denying freedom of expression to its people while you guys are so vehemently supporting French people right to speech.

No...you can protest all you want. If you do not agree, killing them is not the only solution. There are several other alternate measures.

I start t? Why not you? Or being a hypocrite bigot of India stops you?

Lol...personal attack. First sign of loosing an argument.

 

[jarves]

Did you read OP:
He was not found using force to convert anyone. from

And the article also says that he was detained due to complaints of Local groups of his attempts of forced conversion.So what is the truth??
Truth will only come out when the police he has finished its investigation and until then he is detained to avoid clashes between communities.If the complaints are found against him to be false then he will be released and then he can preach Christianity and may also file case against those groups who made false complaints.

 

[Dubious]

India was the first country anywhere to ban Satanic Verses. Many Indian states also banned Da Vinci Code on the same grounds.

Reason - communal harmony and law and order.

Yes, that's the limit to free speech in India. Its not absolute. This guy must have done something different, otherwise there are hundreds of orgs speading Christianity and doing daawa openly in big ceremonies all over India. Certainly you have seen with proud amusement the big jalsaas of Zakir Naik the moron? Nobody gets arrested only for preaching.

Also before the ''hate Modi'' brigade arrives (too late), UP is run by Mullayam Singh, the arch nemesis of BJP an more pious than the house of Saud and law and order is a 100% state subject.

Soo its ok to have limit in freedom of speech when it comes to India but god forbid it is asked for anywhere else?

Are Indians so insecure/ weak (the exact was asked of me when I said freedom of speech comes with responsibilities) that they need to be protected and given limited freedom of speech?

No...you can protest all you want. If you do not agree, killing them is not the only solution. There are several other alternate measures.



Lol...personal attack. First sign of loosing an argument.

Very valid actually...It is happening in India yet no hashtags? disappointed actually!

 

[Areesh]

No...you can protest all you want. If you do not agree, killing them is not the only solution. There are several other alternate measures.

But but but.... What happened to the freedom of speech of Arvind D souza which was denied by the state itself unlike Paris incident where a few individuals decided to use violence to deny someone his so called right to free speech.

Lol...personal attack. First sign of loosing an argument.

Your condition is so poor in this thread that I don't need personal attacks to win anything here.

PS: You guys are hypocrite and bigots. There was no personal attack there.

 

[Dubious]

And the article also says that he was detained due to complaints of Local groups of his attempts of forced conversion.So what is the truth??
Truth will only come out when the police he has finished its investigation and until then he is detained to avoid clashes between communities.If the complaints are found against him to be false then he will be released and then he can preach Christianity and may also file case against those groups who made false complaints.

You'd think there was a nicer way to scan him into the system!

Alright lets go by what you say!

 

[StormShadow]

Adding things into a sentence or hallucinating when you saw that?

How is it flawed? Our constitution is not secular

Then again this is not about Pakistan this is happening in INDIA answer for your own nation!

It's not hallucination. Observe your pattern. You keep on saying Pakistan is not a secular nation. So what? Does that mean religious minorities can be persecuted? [Although they are being even as we speak].

Out of a 1.5 billion population, we are debating on an incident where one person is being sent to a 2 week judicial remand. Enuff said... if it's not being secular....that what is?

 

[Dubious]

lol...when did something similar happen in pakistan? What happened to Handery Masih?

Again Pakistan is not secular stop trying to get a free ride when you have lost an argument!

Ok. So, Charlie and D'Souza are same?

Still cant differentiate a doing from stats ...GOD BLESS YOU CHILD!

You're gonna loose miserably...coz mullah logic is free in local radical madrassa.

Reported for being a sore loser and derailing

 

[Areesh]

India was the first country anywhere to ban Satanic Verses. Many Indian states also banned Da Vinci Code on the same grounds.

Reason - communal harmony and law and order.

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India is the only country in the world where eight wing Hindu organizations have started Ghar wapsi while denying the same for a christian.

Reason: India is secular only constitutionally and not practically. Never was and never will be.

 

[StormShadow]

But but but.... What happened to the freedom of speech of Arvind D souza which was denied by the state itself unlike Paris incident where a few individuals decided to use violence to deny someone his so called right to free speech.

His freedom is very much intact..hence he is sent to a remand. Not to a coffin which generally is the case in your country.

Your condition is so poor in this thread that I don't need personal attacks to win anything here.

PS: You guys are hypocrite and bigots. There was no personal attack there.

Lol...poor? was he killed or thrashed?