NeutralCitizen
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Alwais will need to be given protection however I Bashar Al Assad will likely be replaced with someone else now, and Iraq situation is getting worse, civil war in Syria will likely spill over into Iraq as well.
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And how many people (unarmed) this regime killed? You dont know. Any number mentioned includes armed fighters, who also killed some civilians (which are also included in total death count). And how its going with those many movies where regime is killing civilians? I asked you 3x already, you failed to show any.this regime is going down, no matter how many ppl it kills
I am very sad Iran did go on supporting Al Asad .Alwais will need to be given protection however I Bashar Al Assad will likely be replaced with someone else now, and Iraq situation is getting worse, civil war in Syria will likely spill over into Iraq as well.
I am very sad Iran did go on supporting Al Asad .
I am as well sad to see that some of the rebels are even worst than Al Asad.
We can just wish Al Asad would leave but that next regime would suceed to unit and pacify the country. If i read the western analysts about Syria here, most of them are pessimistic.
@Tariq salam. i can only agree with your words. If people could write with such respect as you, then it would be great bro.
1. Turkey is vastly greater butcher than Syria government could possibly be, Turkey did not one, but two mass genocides in the last hundred of years.
2. More Syrians support government than oppose it. It has 22.7 mln. people, several demonstrations opposing to government tens of thousands people only? Plenty of demonstrations supporting government, in much greater numbers. So yes, majority of Syrians are against the "rebels".
3. NATO and Arabs countries (including Turkey) are funding, training and arming fighters, and send them to attack Syria. Same plan as it was with Libya. And when government is defending the country against armed fighters, West/Arabs and their media is screaming bloody murder. Syria has an absolute right to defend itself, and since majority of Syrians support it, outside forces can only exaggerate and fake news, while trying to create an unrest, to "legitimize intervention".
4. Common sense point:
a) There is usually 1000 civilian deaths per one soldier when government actually kills opposing civilians (Israel vs Palestine, etc)
b) there are only ~5000 dead, which includes armed fighters, both domestic and from abroad, as mentioned above.
c) Syria's police and military had 1000-2000 deaths. As per a) its obvious IF Syrian government would try to kill civilians, there would be ~2000.000 dead already, yet we are talking about 5000 only, which includes armed fighters.
Common sense explanation - Syria doesnt try to kill civilians, as their deaths would be vastly greater. Syria is fighting armed fighters (some locals + NATO/Arab sent fighters), and some civilians are caught in crossfire (by both Syria and the "rebels"). As long as majority of Syrians support its government, and knowing above points, outside forces are the true criminals and butchers there.
Armenian Genocide Armenian Genocide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediawhat are those two "genocides", any evidence to back that claim?
If minority rules majority, and majority still supports government, that means government is doing something right. Or your logic "minority cant rule, regardless how much support they have"?there are more sunni muslims in Syria than Alawi's. the minority is ruling the majority... the reason you see a lot of assad supporters is because of the current status the country is in! journalists can't come in and show what really is happening. assad only spews his propaganda like the North-Korean news agencys!
We can speak about propaganda all day long, starting with West/Arabs massive propaganda against Syria.How do you know what government does? So far it seems majority supports it, and while I agree about better reforms, its not our place to command Syria how they should do it, nor send armed fighters to attack government.the government only defends it self, not the people. if it cared about them they would have made reforms untill now!
Its very easy, even in West media are acknowledging it. A little bit of history - it was confirmed by NATO Supreme Commander it was decided 10 years ago to attack and change regimes in 7 countries, including Syria. And since we JUST saw exactly the same plan as in Syria executed in Libya (or you unaware about foreign fighters there either?), its easy to draw conclusions.care to back your claim that the evil zionist west (NATO) together with arab puppets that protect their zionist masters in Tel Aviv are arming and funding the rebels?
Make up your mind, either Syria is killing civilians, or they dont. I proved they dont, and your argument became "they are afraid of reaction". It doesnt matter if Assad isnt killing civilians on a whim because he is afraid, or because he cares. Logic and facts says, he doesnt, and thats the whole point.this 'common sense' should also tell you something. if the Government would kill 200 thousand people the world, including Russia would not stand and watch.
Armenian Genocide Armenian Genocide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kurds as well, read up "Late Ottoman genocides: the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire and Young Turkish population and extermination policies."
If minority rules majority, and majority still supports government, that means government is doing something right. Or your logic "minority cant rule, regardless how much support they have"?We can speak about propaganda all day long, starting with West/Arabs massive propaganda against Syria.
How do you know what government does? So far it seems majority supports it, and while I agree about better reforms, its not our place to command Syria how they should do it, nor send armed fighters to attack government.
Make up your mind, either Syria is killing civilians, or they dont. I proved they dont, and your argument became "they are afraid of reaction". It doesnt matter if Assad isnt killing civilians on a whim because he is afraid, or because he cares. Logic and facts says, he doesnt, and thats the whole point.
Genocide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaIn not even going to discuss this with you... you clearly have no idea what genocide is
I'll give you two hints - in 22.7 mln. country only tens of thousands protesters (yeah, massive uprising my ***Any proof they support them, everyone in North korea to "support" the dear leader.
), and when government supporters show up, they have much greater numbers. What freedom? To place West puppet regime is a freedom according to you?yes we should, what kind of human are you?! people there fights for their freedom while you are here talking about a butcher that keeps killing innocent because he wants to stay in power.
As shown, only small minority are against government, so lets say they win and they get "the freedom", how about the rest of 22 mln. people, or their "freedom of choice" isnt important to you?I just showed you the facts and common sense, if this doesnt prove anything to you, nothing will.you didnt prove a jackshit. Syrian government IS killing INNOCENT people, if not there wouldnt be an armed opposition.
you can go to youtube and see what the brutal Syrian government is doing to those civilian protestors that gets captures.
it surprises me that you are fine with people getting robbet their freedom because one man wants power.
Just try to think, I know its hard for you, but try, please?genocide wasnt a word back in 1914 it was invented to describe the acts nazi germany did against the jews. i guess your going to deny that to...

The term is just a description of an action, regardless where and when it happened.You see, when majority protests, they do protest, remember India, Iran, etc. When people dont protest, or just a minority of them do, they cant speak for the nation itself, comprende?so just because you see some thousand protest your saying the rest loves the government. dude NOBODY in north korea protest the government, does it mean everyone likes it?
Can you prove people are forced to protest for Assad? Of course you cant, you just pull random nonsense out of your ***. Its 21st century, everyone and their mothers have cell phones, and we can see how many protest for and against Assad.the government allows you to see what they want you to see, international press cant get into the country. ofcourse state controlled tv is going to show some people protesting in favour of assad. and people are also being forced to protest in favour for him...
Where did I say that? I pointed out facts and logic dont confirm of Assad killing civilians just because some oppose him. And remember, any count media mentions, includes armed fighters, and some civilians died in a crossfire. IF Assad would kill civilians, number of deaths would actually be huge, not a few thousand after ~9 months.and the fact that you say no innocent have died in Syria IS jackshit!
Actually Assad suggested elections, but West with "rebels" rejected. And again you pulling out of your *** about "22 milion has to shut up or else they'll get prison or even killed", random nonsense.freedom can mean alot of different things over there, not necessarily the freedom you and i enjoy here!
the rest of the 22 million? alawis dont make up more than 5 million at max. those 22 milion has to shut up or else they'll get prison or even killed.