Ukraine displays USD 6 mln spy drone shot down near Donetsk

[Hindustani78]

Russian army in Ukraine: Ukraine displays USD 6 mln spy drone shot down near Donetsk - watch on - uatoday.tv
May. 25, 2015

The UAV adds further to a mountain of evidence of Russia's military involvement in Donbas region

Ukraine's security service has presented what it says is a Russian drone which was shot down in east Ukraine.

Officials say the drone was brought down on the night of the 20th of May near the village of Pisky in the Donetsk region and bears several distinguishing marks which single it out as unmistakably originating from the Russian Federation.

The drone was reportedly initially flying at a height of 1000 metres before descending to 250 metres to conduct reconnaissance, at which point Ukrainian forces were able to shoot it down. Its operational radius is 250km.

According to Ukrainian intelligence, Russia now has 11 such pilotless drones in its arsenal.

The drone captured by Ukraine cannot be restored to service, but the country has offered it as further evidence of Russian aggression.

 

[Hindustani78]

Ukrainian forces says two drones shot down over war zone are Russian | World news | The Guardian

The first drone was shot down by Aerorozvidka, a special reconnaissance unit of the Ukrainian forces, not far from Luhansk, in eastern Ukraine, on 8 May. A battle ensued over the next two days as Ukrainian troops tried to retrieve the wreckage.

“We knew we had hit something important by the way they were fighting to try to stop us from getting to it,” said Natan Chazin, the commander of the unit.

When they reached the wreckage, the soldiers found four compasses and a triple backup navigation system to ensure the drone was virtually immune to electronic jamming and would always return home unless shot down. The interior metallic plates were stamped with two sets of Israeli markings.

Gustav Gressel, a former first lieutenant and radar officer in an anti-aircraft battery of the Austrian military, said after inspecting the wreckage that it resembled an Israeli Searcher drone.

He said neither Ukrainian forces nor the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) used anything similar. “The thing has to come from Russia,” he said.

Russia licensed the Searcher technology from Israel for manufacture by the Ural Works of Civil Aviation with the name Forpost. Gressel said it was the most advanced drone Russia had in current service, costing up to $6m (£3.8m) each.

Chazin, a former Israeli soldier, also believes the drone is a Searcher type. “A normal drone pilot cannot fly this drone. It takes years just to understand the idea of how to build this technology,” he said.

Alexander Golts, a Russian military analyst, agreed: “We’re talking about a complex weapon, you need to specially train and prepare to use it, not just one or two months but years.”

As Ukrainian experts were picking this drone apart, the Dnipro-1 battalion announced on Thursday that it had shot down another drone, which looked to be of the same make. Markian Lubkivsky, of the Ukrainian security services, said he believed the drone had been manufactured in 2013 at the Ural plant.

Images released by the battalion show metallic plates similar to those found in the first drone, including one with the word “Forpost” stamped in Russian, and a manufacturer number of 923.

 

[Superboy]

Considering Russia built like hundreds of thousands of tanks and planes during WW2, 1 drone is like a mini peanut.

 

[Hindustani78]

Considering Russia built like hundreds of thousands of tanks and planes during WW2, 1 drone is like a mini peanut.

this is what the most interesting info.

Russia licensed the Searcher technology from Israel for manufacture by the Ural Works of Civil Aviation with the name Forpost. Gressel said it was the most advanced drone Russia had in current service, costing up to $6m (£3.8m) each.

Ukraine is moving towards EU and NATO membership and Israeli defense industry is like helping Russian Federation against Ukraine which even goes against the interest of United States and all the NATO member countries from Denmark, Norway and Baltics etc.

 

[Superboy]

this is what the most interesting info.

Russia licensed the Searcher technology from Israel for manufacture by the Ural Works of Civil Aviation with the name Forpost. Gressel said it was the most advanced drone Russia had in current service, costing up to $6m (£3.8m) each.

Ukraine is moving towards EU and NATO membership and Israeli defense industry is like helping Russian Federation against Ukraine which even goes against the interest of United States and all the NATO member countries from Denmark, Norway and Baltics etc.

Moving towards. 10 years from now, Germany and France will block Ukraine's application for NATO membership.

Orlan 10 is better than Searcher IMO.

Orlan-10 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Hindustani78]

Moving towards. 10 years from now, Germany and France will block Ukraine's application for NATO membership.

Orlan 10 is better than Searcher IMO.

Orlan-10 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ukraine is on its way and it seems by summer 2016 according to official reports

Presidential Administration expects to get visa-free regime in summer of 2016| Ukrinform

KYIV, May 26 /Ukrinform/. MP from the Bloc of Petro Poroshenko faction, advisor to the President of Ukraine Iryna Herashchenko has stated that Ukraine may get visa-free regime with the European Union in summer of 2016.

 

[Hindustani78]

Russia’s repeated attempts to convince the international community and its own citizens that there are no Russian troops, or weapons in Ukraine have grown tiresome and farcical, especially when compared against the meticulously researched mountain of evidence to the contrary.

Shortly after Ukrainian troops captured two Russian Spetsnaz soldiers, a Ukrainian special forces unit of the Dnipro-1 Battalion shot down a $6 million Russian Forpost drone near Avdeevka in Eastern Ukraine. The Russian government was quick to distance itself from the soldiers, and even went so far as to parade their families in front of the media to deny their active status. However, the drone that was shot down that day is not something the Russian government can deny owning and operating. Drones, advanced as they might be, do not as of yet have the power of free will, so this particular one could not get lost and fly into Ukraine, or leave its unit to volunteer for service in Ukraine.


It is one of the most advanced pieces of technology in the Russian arsenal. It’s equally capable of operating at night and in the day. It’s used to acquire a complete picture of the battlefield and relay real time information to artillery teams in order to correct their fire which devastates enemy positions. Although it doesn’t drop bombs, the impact of the surveillance is equally lethal.

This is a UAV that the Ukrainian government has never owned, rented or operated so it couldn’t have been captured by ‘miners and truckers.’ It takes over one year to develop the ability to operate these sophisticated machines and many more to develop the technology required to build them. They also require multi million dollar ground control stations which the separatists cannot build, operate, buy, rent, lease or sublet themselves.

Most importantly, there is no other country in the world that flies the Forpost Drone but Russia. Some countries fly the Israeli Searcher drone, which the Forpost is a licensed copy of, but no other country outside the Russian Federation flies the Forpost, which was shot down on May 20th in Eastern Ukraine. This particular drone contained clearly marked ‘Forpost’ metallic plates with serial numbers inside it’s body.

DShK

 

[Penguin]

this is what the most interesting info.

Russia licensed the Searcher technology from Israel for manufacture by the Ural Works of Civil Aviation with the name Forpost. Gressel said it was the most advanced drone Russia had in current service, costing up to $6m (£3.8m) each.

Ukraine is moving towards EU and NATO membership and Israeli defense industry is like helping Russian Federation against Ukraine which even goes against the interest of United States and all the NATO member countries from Denmark, Norway and Baltics etc.

Introduction
• Searcher 1 - 1992
• Searcher 2 - 1998

IAI Searcher - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ural Factory of Civil Aviation (Yekaterinburg) issued the first unmanned aerial vehicle "Forpost" in July 2012, compiled by the Israeli license.
Drone "Forpost” is a licensed Russian version of Israeli unmanned aircraft Searcher II and has similar tactical-technical data. 300 million dollar contract was signed on October 13, 2010 between Russia and Israel on licensed production of aircrafts.

Russia started the production of the UAV by Israeli license

Since it is a licenced copy, the conclusion should be that Russia is providing these.
There is no evidence whatsoever given for the assertion that Israel is helping Russia against Ukraine.

Transfers of major conventional weapons: sorted by supplier. Deals with deliveries or orders made for year range 1992 to 2014

Note: The ‘No. delivered/produced’ and the ‘Year(s) of deliveries’ columns refer to all deliveries since the beginning of the contract. Deals in which the recipient was involved in the production of the weapon system are listed separately. The ‘Comments’ column includes publicly reported information on the value of the deal. Information on the sources and methods used in the collection of the data, and explanations of the conventions, abbreviations and acronyms, can be found at URL <http://www.sipri.org/contents/armstrad/at_data.html>. The SIPRI Arms Transfers Database is continuously updated as new information becomes available.
Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database

Information generated: 14 June 2015

Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


Czech Republic
R: Russia 4 L-410 Turbolet Light transport ac (2010) 2011 4
3 L-410 Turbolet Light transport ac 2011 2012 (3)

France
L: Russia 2 Mistral AALS 2011 EUR1.1 b deal (incl production of components in Russia); Russian designation Vladivostok; planned delivery 2014-2015 delayed by France due to Russian actions against Ukraine
R: Russia 3 AS-350/AS-550 Fennec Light helicopter 2012 2013 3 AS-350B version; probably for evaluation
2 AS-355/AS-555 Fennec Light helicopter 2012 2013 2 AS-355N3 version; probably for evaluation

Germany (FRG)
R: Russia (2) MTU-4000 Diesel engine (2001) 2006 2 For 1 Scorpion (Project-12300) FAC produced in Russia

Israel
R: Russia 8 I-View-150 UAV 2009 2009-2010 (8) $37 m deal (part of $50-53 m deal)
2 Searcher UAV 2009 2009-2010 (2) $12 m deal (part of $53 m deal); Searcher-2 version
(10) Searcher UAV 2010 2013-2014 (10) Searcher-2 version; assembled in Russia

Italy
R: Russia (358) LMV APV 2011 2012-2014 (358) Assembled from kits in Russia; Russian designation Rys

Poland
R: Russia 1 Project-775/Ropucha Landing ship (1980) 1992 1 Originally ordered by Soviet Union and delivered to Russia after end of Soviet Union

Ukraine
L: Russia (264) AI-222 Turbofan 2006 2009-2014 (124) For 132 Yak-130 trainer/combat aircraft produced in Russia 2009-2017
19 An-140 Transport aircraft 2011 2012-2014 (16) An-140-100 version
15 An-148 Transport aircraft 2013 2013-2014 (4) RUB18 b deal; An-148-100E version; delivery 2013-2017
R: Russia 100 Kh-59M/AS-18 Kazoo ASM (2006) 2007 100 Status uncertain; possibly more delivered before 2007

 

[Hindustani78]

So Israeli Defense companies has sold American technology to Russian Federation which the Russian Federation has used against the Ukrainian forces.

 

[Penguin]

So Israeli Defense companies has sold American technology to Russian Federation which the Russian Federation has used against the Ukrainian forces.

US technology?

Israel? How about France... optronics, arty navigation systems, avionics, thermal imager for Russian T-90 battle tanks
Russia purchases French-made individual combat system FELIN Sagem Future Soldier Equipment 0211122 | November 2012 new army military defence industry | Military army defense industry news year 2012
UralVagonZavod - News
Mistral and Other Arms Sales to Russia Mark NATO’s First Post Summit Defeat (Part Two) | The Jamestown Foundation

 

[Hindustani78]

US technology?

Israel? How about France... optronics, arty navigation systems, avionics, thermal imager for Russian T-90 battle tanks
Russia purchases French-made individual combat system FELIN Sagem Future Soldier Equipment 0211122 | November 2012 new army military defence industry | Military army defense industry news year 2012
UralVagonZavod - News
Mistral and Other Arms Sales to Russia Mark NATO’s First Post Summit Defeat (Part Two) | The Jamestown Foundation

Majority of Israeli weapon systems are based on American Technology and drones were used by the Americans from the 60's.

 

[Penguin]

Majority of Israeli weapon systems are based on American Technology and drones were used by the Americans from the 60's.

Drones were used by the nazi's too....

I disagree.

 

[Hindustani78]

Drones were used by the nazi's too....

I disagree.

United States did helped Israeli defense industries and Israeli Defense industries become competitor.

 

[Penguin]

United States did helped Israeli defense industries and Israeli Defense industries become competitor.

They actually helped drones mature at a time when there wasn't funding for them in US.

 

[GR!FF!N]

Israeli Drones gets flown by nearly every major nation.nothing of surprise..But I wonder why Russia never shined in this sector.They use Searcher,but with their capability,they can easily make far superior drones than this..I mean,even India is testing Rustom-II,but never heard similar Male or Hale platforms being developed by Russia.