U.S. Signals Shift on How to End Syrian Civil War

[Gufi]

Brother, wouldn't it make sense for Syria, Lebanon and Iraq to sign a peace accord with Israel? Wouldn't this eventually lead to the realization of a Palestinian state?

You take a very simple view of the region. too simple at times.

 

[gau8av]

Long live to Syria yes.
but not "long live" to this person.

He's an angel compared to the filthy jihadis he's fighting.

 

[Serpentine]

Meanwhile the west is whining about Russian policies in Ukraine and even putting sanctions on them, while they are supporting the much worse terrorists in Syria, unfortuanrltely there is no one there to sanction U.S and Europe.

 

[ResurgentIran]

Meanwhile the west is whining about Russian policies in Ukraine and even putting sanctions on them, while they are supporting the much worse terrorists in Syria, unfortuanrltely there is no one there to sanction U.S and Europe.

Here's the thing. The rest of the global actors have started to realise that if left unchecked and unresisted, US is going to a dangerous behemoth that will threaten security and regime change to anyone it does not like.
They removed Ghadaffi because he did not want to trade in the US dollar. What was supposed to be a campaign for no-fly zone in Libya (which they reluctantly got in the Security council) turned into a campaign of overthrowing a sovereign state.
Russia and China has enough.
They look at the Syria example and realise that there is only one tune that Washington listens to and understand:
PAIN! Resistance

Which is why Iran is doing it exactly right. When they asked for our assistance against taliban in 2001, some Iranian officials naively thought that US would begin to like them. But we saw that immediately after the Bush put Iran in the axis of evil.
Now Iran has withdrawn its support in Afghanistan and the West is getting nowhere. They have asked several intermediares from India to beg Iran to come back and help.
Now they need our help in other places in the region, and Iran is refusing.

Thats why they so desperately want to chalk out a nuclear deal. So do you see now?
The best way to get the US to listen and respect and recognize you as an independent state is not to do everything they ask and hope they will like you.
No, it is to make it increasingly costly for the US NOT to recognize you and your interests.
That is why Iran is in a very demanding position when it comes to nuclear negotiations.

Resistance and pain. This is the only language uncle sam understands and listens to.
And that is why Russia is supporting rebels. To make it costly and troublesome for Europe and US.

 

[Steakhouse]

First Syria opposition back by the west started a civil, the opposition included Isis and Alqidia include free Syrian rebel fought Assad for over 2 yrs, now Isis and Alqida broke off from the group then started to fight for territory and declare Muslim caliphate, now Obama want to broker the truce with Assad to fight against Isis, somehow Obama cleverly end up bombing all kind of Muslim included Syrian army, Syrian freedom rebel, alqida, Isis, turd, Irag.

 

[Steve781]

May this mercenary war end in Syria.

If left to the west, they destroy Syria just like they did Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan. Imagine if Assad is ousted at this moment. You will have large swathe of land of two countries, Syria and Iraq, without central authority, government or person to talk to.

This is the West's idea to fight terror, creating more terror and more reasons to intervene along the way.

Assad might be no angel. I dont know. But his alternative is even worse. If hypothetically, FSA wins and installs itself in Damascus, do you think they will listen to anyone? FSA is like Taliban in jeans.

Dont forget Taliban were also funded from abroad to rein in chaos in Afghanistan an now they are fully independent and fighting an occupation. This is how mercenary army and terror outfits end up. They wont listen, are independent and easily manipulated.

Even now, with so many outside players in Syria involved in this grave suffering and insurgency, anyone can be a spoiler to peace process.

It's not "the West" who is giving them the overwhelming majority of their arms it's Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar. People on here just ignore this fact because it doesn't fit their prejudices.

 

[BDforever]

so, after so much blood of syrian ppl, now USA is thinking of working out in diplomatic way ?
why did not you do it in first place instead of arming rebels ?

It's not "the West" who is giving them then overwhelming majority of their arms it's Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar. People on here just ignore this fact because it doesn't fit their prejudices.

active support by west, including military training ... we don't have gold fish memory perhaps you have

 

[Steve781]

so, after so much blood of syrian ppl, now USA is thinking of working out in diplomatic way ?
why did not you do it in first place instead of arming rebels ?


active support by west, including military training ... we don't have gold fish memory perhaps you have

Trained by the US not "the West".

 

[BDforever]

Support of the US not "the West".

your dear PM also did same , recall your memory

 

[Steve781]

your dear PM also did same , recall your memory

No he didn't. He wanted to but was stopped by parliament.

 

[BDforever]

No he didn't. He wanted to but was stopped by parliament.

it was too late:

you should not do it in first place

UK joins France in supporting Syrian rebel coalition - CNN.com

 

[Steve781]

it was too late:

you should not do it in first place

UK joins France in supporting Syrian rebel coalition - CNN.com

Diplomatic support not military support. Show me when British arms have been sent to Syrian rebels and when British forces have been training them? You can't.

 

[BDforever]

Diplomatic support not military support. Show me when British arms have been sent to Syrian rebels and when British forces have been training them? You can't.

the sarin nerve gas came from UK company , forgot that ?

 

[Steve781]

QUOTE="BDforever, post: 6702320, member: 144896"]the sarin nerve gas came from UK company , forgot that ?[/QUOTE]
That was sold to Assad.

 

[BDforever]

That was sold to Assad.

should not in first place when you are aganist WMD