Turkish Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler: We are considering purchasing 40 Eurofighter Typhoons

[Foinikas]

finally a very successful platform design with a great fire power which is better than even French HORIZON class Destroyer and British Type45 Destroyer

I'll ask again and you should reply this time:

How old are you? Have you studied anything? Only kids talk like that.

 

[MMM-E]

If you're talking about MMM-E,I agree with you. If you're talking about me,I meant swarm them with your Fast Attack Craft.


You still think that whoever has more SAMs wins in naval warfare.

More SAM = more protection and fire power to win the naval warfare

I prefer Turkish AS3600 Frigate armed with 160 SAMs , instead of Egyptian Navy FREMM Frigate armed with 16 SAMs


Also Turkish AS-3600 Frigate has extra fire power and technology

1 x PDMS ( Point defense missile System )
1 x GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS
12 x ASW Rockets
8 x UMTAS Missiles

unmammed Kamikaze Drones

and ARES-2N Electronic Warfare Suite
ESM&ECM

 

[Foinikas]

More SAM = more protection and fire power to win the naval warfare

I prefer Turkish AS3600 Frigate armed with 160 SAMs , instead of Egyptian Navy FREMM Frigate armed with 16 SAMs


Also Turkish AS-3600 Frigate has extra fire power and technology

1 x PDMS ( Point defense missile System )
1 x GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS
12 x ASW Rockets
8 x UMTAS Missiles

unmammed Kamikaze Drones

and ARES-2N Electronic Warfare Suite
ESM&ECM

Stop avoiding the question!

How old are you and what have you studied? If you have studied anything at all.

 

[MMM-E]

How old are you? Have you studied anything? Only kids talk like that.

You are so ignorant and biased therefore you can not see the reality
stop babbling and conduct military analysis to prove your thesis

I show the reality to all of You
What about French HORIZON class Destroyer or British Type45 Destroyer ?

1 x Naval Gun
mix of 48 ASTER-15 and ASTER-30 SAMs with range of 35-120 km
8 x anti-ship Missiles
6 x Torpedos
2 × DS30B 30 mm Guns
2 × 20 mm Phalanx CIWS

Technology
400 km SAMPSON AESA Radar



Turkish AS-3600 Frigate fire power
1 x 76 mm Gun
64 cells MIDLAS VLS for
mix of 128 x HISAR-D Block2 and 32 x SIPER Block2 SAMs with range of 150 km
8 x ATMACA anti-ship Missiles
6 x ORKA Torpedos
1 x PDMS ( Point defense missile System )
1 x GOKDENIZ 35mm CIWS
2 x 25mm stabilized Guns
12 x ASW Rockets
8 x UMTAS Missiles

Unmanned Kamikaze Vessels ..... ( unique in NATO )

Technology
400 km CENK-S AESA Radar


French SYLVER VLS doesnt have quad pack capability
therefor French , Italian and British Destroyers have inferior fire power to compare with even Turkish AS-3600 Frigate

 

[retaxis]

Ok Guys lets go

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Gomig-21 , Foinikas​

You either do not know or ignore Turkish UCAV technology and smart ammunition family




American MQ-9 UCAV carry only 12 km HELLFIRE Missile and 22km Paveway IV laser-guided Bomb

Europe doesnt have its own UCAV yet

India doesnt have its own UCAV yet

Russian UCAVs have limited strike capability

China's new Wing Loong-3 UCAV has serious strike capability

Israel has great UCAV technology but no any long range strike capability yet


but Turkish UCAVs armed with long range munitions to hit everything including Air Defense Systems and Warships

Countries like Greece and Egypt can not stop great Turkish UCAV fire power



Turkish BAYKAR has production capability to produce 1 TB-2 UCAV daily
365 UCAVs annually


TB2 and TB-3 UCAVs

TB-2 can carry 2 KEMANKES mini cruise Missiles
TB-3 can carry 4 KEMANKES mini cruise Missiles
View attachment 1033018

KEMANKES mini cruise Missile
Range : 250 km
E/O Camera
Artificial intelligence-supported autopilot system

Cost effective KEMANKES mini cruise Missile to hit enemy Radars, Air Defense Systems , Warships from safe distance in swarm attack
View attachment 1033016


ANKA UCAV

200 km SIMSEK Kamikaze Drone

Cost effective SIMSEK Kamikaze Drone to hit enemy Radars, Air Defense Systems , Warships from safe distance in swarm attack

View attachment 1033021



AKINCI UCAV

KGK-SIHA-82 guided Bomb for anti-ship role
Range : 60+ km
Seeker : active radar
Warhead : 225 kg

KGK-SIHA-82 guided Bomb to hit Warships

View attachment 1033023

TOLUN-IIR guided munition
Range : 80 km
Seeker : IIR

Cost effective TOLUN-IIR to hit enemy Air Defense Systems , Warships from safe distance in swarm attack

View attachment 1033024


CAKIR Cruise Missile
Range : 150 km
Seeker : hybrid IIR + RF

Cost effective CAKIR Cruise Missile to hit enemy Radars, Air Defense Systems , Warships from safe distance in swarm attack

View attachment 1032944


IHA-230 supersonic Missile
Range : 150+ km
Guidance : GPS , INS , Laser seeker

Cost effective IHA-230 to hit enemy Air Defense Systems , Warships from safe distance in swarm attack

View attachment 1033017



KUZGUN-TJ joint strike Missile
Range : 180+ km
Seeker : IIR or RF

Cost effective KUZGUN-TJ Missile to hit enemy Radars, Air Defense Systems , Warships from safe distance in swarm attack
View attachment 1033027


SOM Cruise Missile
Range : 275 km
Warhead : 230 kg
Seeker : IIR

SOM cruise Missile to hit enemy Air Defense Systems , Warships from safe distance

View attachment 1033025
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Hellenic and Egyptian Navies are easy targets for 300 Turkish UCAVs if their Warships enter Turkish EEZ to fight Turkiye

Hellenic Navy ELLI and HYDRA class Frigates armed with only 16 x SAMs

Egyptian Navy FREMM Frigates armed with only 16 x SAMs

Egyptian Navy MEKO-A200 Frigates armed with only 32 x SAMs


Your Frigates never can match with large scale swarm attacks by hundreds of cost effective KGK-SIHA-82 , TOLUN-IIR , CAKIR , IHA-230 , KUZGUN-TJ , SIMSEK , KEMANKES

Even I am not talking about the land based Anti-ship Missiles , Turkish Air Force and the Turkish Navy which will attack on your Navies



Thanks to stupid USA which blocked sale of UCAV to Turkiye
now Turkiye is a drone super power in the world with its own superior UCAVs

sooner or later KAAN and KIZILELMA Fighter Jets will enter service
and Turkiye will become global player in defense industry

Before half ur 300 drones take off, they will be detected, destroyed on base, jammed, shot down and bombed. Real war is not masturbation fantasies kiddo.

 

[Foinikas]

You are so ignorant and biased therefore you can not see the reality

And you're still avoiding the question. Why?

 

[retaxis]

If you're talking about MMM-E,I agree with you. If you're talking about me,I meant swarm them with your Fast Attack Craft.


You still think that whoever has more SAMs wins in naval warfare.

Lol thats like saying whoever has the better gun wins in a duel. Obviously the skill of the captain/duelist is paramount along with the training standards and discipline. I am affirming ur post that MMME is simple minded child when he debates about things

 

[Foinikas]

Lol thats like saying whoever has the better gun wins in a duel. Obviously the skill of the captain/duelist is paramount along with the training standards and discipline. I am affirming ur post that MMME is simple minded child when he debates about things

He ignores that ships also have EW,countermeasures such as chaff,torpedo decoys etc. It's about ECM,C-ESM,R-ESM (the whole EW suite),it's about the radar,it's about the CMS,the weapon FCS,the quality of the missiles and ammunition.

He just says "Turkey has the best technology,best radars,best EW,best weapons,everything is best".

He said the Italian Navy would lose against the Turkish Navy. He said only USA is a match for Turkey.

 

[MMM-E]

Before half ur 300 drones take off, they will be detected, destroyed on base, jammed, shot down and bombed. Real war is not masturbation fantasies kiddo.

YES Real war is not your masturbation fantasies kiddo.
what a pathetic ignorant troll

Greece and Egypt dont have even strike capability on all Turkish Bases

Greece and Egypt have Frigates with only 35-40 km SAMs

Greece and Egypt have Frigates without EW Systems


Turkiye create great A2/AD capability to block enemy Fighter Jets and Navies to enter Turkish EEZ to fight Turkiye

-- S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems
-- 250 km BARBAROS Coastal Defense System based on ATMACA anti-ship Missile
-- Integrated Radar Network ERALP AESA Radar . CENK-S AESA Radar and 600 km Boeing E7-T AEWC
-- REDET-II radar Electronic Warfare System
-- HAVASOJ stand off Jammer Aircraft
-- Unmanned Kamikaze Vessels
-- Unmmanned Combat Vessels
-- UCAVs armed with long range Missiles - guided munitions

also Turkish Air Force and the Turkish Navy


Nobody can survive against Turkiye's great A2/AD capability in the Turkish EEZ

 

[Foinikas]

YES Real war is not your masturbation fantasies kiddo.
what a pathetic ignorant troll

Greece and Egypt dont have even strike capability on Turkish Bases

Greece and Egypt have Frigates with only 35-40 km SAMs

Greece and Egypt have Frigates without EW Systems


Turkiye create great A2/AD capability to block enemy Fighter Jets and Navies to enter Turkish EEZ to fight Turkiye

-- S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems
-- 250 km BARBAROS Coastal Defense System based on ATMACA anti-ship Missile
-- Integrated Radar Network ERALP AESA Radar . CENK-S AESA Radar and 600 km Boeing E7-T AEWC
-- REDET-II radar Electronic Warfare System
-- HAVASOJ stand off Jammer Aircraft
-- Unmanned Kamikaze Vessels
-- Unmmanned Combat Vessels
-- UCAVs armed with long range Missiles - guided munitions


Nobody can survive against Turkiye's great A2/AD capability

HEY! Stop avoiding the question:

WHAT IS YOUR AGE AND HAVE YOU STUDIED ANYTHING?

 

[MMM-E]

He ignores that ships also have EW,countermeasures such as chaff,torpedo decoys etc. It's about ECM,C-ESM,R-ESM (the whole EW suite),it's about the radar,it's about the CMS,the weapon FCS,the quality of the missiles and ammunition.

problem is Pathetic Hellenic Navy ELLI and HYDRA class Frigates dont have these technologies

problem is Pathetic Egyptian Navy FREMM class Frigates dont have these technologies

even only 300 Turkish UCAVs are enough for Hellenic+Egyptian Navies combined


btw EW Suite can not do anything against Turkish Missiles which have advanced counter-countermeasure capabilities

 

[Foinikas]

problem is Pathetic Hellenic Navy ELLI and HYDRA class Frigates dont have these technologies

problem is Pathetic Egyptian Navy FREMM class Frigates dont have these technologies

even only 300 Turkish UCAVs are enough for Hellenic+Egyptian Navies combined

You keep avoiding my question,why is that so? Are you really 18? 20? 15? What? You still haven't finished High School? You've never studied anything?

 

[MMM-E]

You keep avoiding my question,why is that so? Are you really 18? 20? 15? What? You still haven't finished High School? You've never studied anything?

Stop acting like a little boy ... and discuss like a real man if you have military knowledge
whats your arguments ?


I am older than you
and I studied university for 5 years ... even I speak very well Russian

 

[Ghostkiller]

Israel and Egypt will attack TRNC, and NATO will not help because it's not Turkey. Then even the most boneheaded idiots like you will realize "we should have bought the fucking F35"

It will be Balkan war 2.0

Why we would attack TRNC? If our relation gets better, Egypt will do nothing but will play as mediator between Greece and Turkey. Egypt wants only to defend her national sovereignty.

 

[MMM-E]

Why we would attack TRNC? If our relation gets better, Egypt will do nothing but will play as mediator between Greece and Turkey. Egypt wants only to defend her national sovereignty.

Bravo
No any serious problem between Egypt and Turkiye
NO any serious reason for a war between Egypt and Turkiye

Even now Turkiye-Egypt solve the problems
Turkiye and Egypt can work with each other on issues of economic and political importance
together we can rule the region for both Egyptian-Turkish interests