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Elhamdulillah!!! The Turkish forces, according to the local media, are conducting joint exercises at the Iraq border. As the tribal proxy thugs/thieves/rapists, at the instigation of their Iblis masters, are preparing for a referendum in clear violation of 1926 Ankara agreement, the Turkish government is pressing ahead with its claims over Kerkuk and Musul on the basis of the Misak-i Milli (National Pact/Oath by the Last Ottoman Parliament in 1920). Let the Serdar-i Mujahit ensure a replay of the Ottoman slaps rendered last time by Yavuz Sultan Selim on the naughty boys in this neighborhood! This time, in line with the demand of Time, indigenous armed drones are inshaAllah enough for them to flee like rats!!! Some pics from the border below (PDF members: please note the indigenous staffs):


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A lesson we need to learn. If Turkish can target terrorists while US and NATO is in Iraq, why cant Pakistan do the same and how come we are being told by the naysayers how our options are limited just because US is there. All we need is to grow a pair.
 
A lesson we need to learn. If Turkish can target terrorists while US and NATO is in Iraq, why cant Pakistan do the same and how come we are being told by the naysayers how our options are limited just because US is there. All we need is to grow a pair.

Wrong lesson.

The Turks are targetting those Kurds from Iraq, across a national boundary, who had most effectively fought ISIS, giving the Iraqi forces stiffening where required. The Turks are fearful that a referendum in Iraqi territory held by Kurds giving a positive reference to the independence question will serve as a nodal point for the gathering together of Kurds in Turkey as well, not to mention Iran.

It's not about terrorists, it's about preventing the Kurds from getting together.
 
Wrong lesson.

The Turks are targetting those Kurds from Iraq, across a national boundary, who had most effectively fought ISIS, giving the Iraqi forces stiffening where required. The Turks are fearful that a referendum in Iraqi territory held by Kurds giving a positive reference to the independence question will serve as a nodal point for the gathering together of Kurds in Turkey as well, not to mention Iran.

It's not about terrorists, it's about preventing the Kurds from getting together.
I guess you dont know how divided the Kurds are,not alone beliefs or sekts but most importantly the various clans.
For instance,Turkish Kurds,Iraqi Kurds,Syrian Kurds and Iranian Kurds cant stand each other.
There is much animosity between the various Kurdish communities in my country,there are Sunni Kurds,Alevi Kurds,Zaza etc.
The PKK is only supported by a small number of the Kurdish communities,mostly by Alevi Kurds.
The Kurds in Iraq are mostly Sunni but there are different clans with different political parties which cant stand each other,the KDP of Barzani and the PUK of Talabani are sworn enemies.
Its very complicated.
Even if all of the surrounding countries would agree on the independence of the KRG,the country wouldnt last because of internal struggle.

The Turks are targetting those Kurds from Iraq, across a national boundary, who had most effectively fought ISIS,
This is not true,the Peshmerga(the Kurds you claim to be fighting ISIS) only fought when ISIS tried to attack KRG territory,they never fought for the rest of Iraq.
My friend,know what your talking about.
 
Wrong lesson.

The Turks are targetting those Kurds from Iraq, across a national boundary, who had most effectively fought ISIS, giving the Iraqi forces stiffening where required. The Turks are fearful that a referendum in Iraqi territory held by Kurds giving a positive reference to the independence question will serve as a nodal point for the gathering together of Kurds in Turkey as well, not to mention Iran.

It's not about terrorists, it's about preventing the Kurds from getting together.

Turkey just won't let Kurds have a state despite Turkmen and Arab populated cities are against. If Usa would arm sheeps as like they armed PKK/SDF Kurds, sheeps would have ruled the Middle East by now let alone ISIS. I really don't understand why everyone excited about a Kurdish state. It will be just another puppet regime to let the USA control oil zones.

On the other hand some questions for you.
Why nobody cares of Iraq's soveregnity which is protected by UN?
Would India give land to its minorities ?
Will India let Kashmir free and independent or let them have a referandum to choose side ?
 
Wasnt it your Reis(Erdogan) who made sure they have the freedom to act like this,in the first place?
It might be a right decision at that juncture to buy time. Or, it might have been wrong all along. Anyway, much water have passed through Euphrates and Tigris. I hope the Turkish authorities should make it amply clear right now that it's an existential issue for Turkey and there's no room for compromise...

Holy crap war is breaking out and Pakistan is stuck dealing with a handful families.

I guess time to be neutral again.
It's one of "now or never", "direct action", "eat grass" or (Turkish edition) "79 cents*" type situations!!! Interestingly, folks do marvelously well under such constraints!!!!! I am pretty sure there will be enough room for Pak to jump in anytime they want...

*Post Cyprus invasion, at one point the Turkish treasury only had 79 cents (literally) in reserve!!!!!
 
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It might be a right decision at that juncture to buy time. Or, it might have been wrong all along. Anyway, much water have passed through Euphrates and Tigris. I hope the Turkish authorities should make it amply clear right now that it's an existential issue for Turkey and there's no room for compromise...


It's one of "now or never", "direct action", "eat grass" or (Turkish edition) "79 cents*" type situations!!! Interestingly, folks do marvelously well under such constraints!!!!! I am pretty sure there will be enough room for Pak to jump in anytime they want...

*Post Cypress invasion, at one point the Turkish treasury only had 79 cents (literally) in reserve!!!!!

Its just a question of who is willing to take the THAT GUY responsibility.

We still have plenty to loose if we pick sides just yet.

Sometimes destiny is just above brotherhood.

Or

More a case of

Pakistan has a better plan moment.

Que sera sera
Whatever it be it be
The futures not ours to see moment is here for many people though
 
Its just a question of who is willing to take the THAT GUY responsibility.

We still have plenty to loose if we pick sides just yet.

Sometimes destiny is just above brotherhood.

Or

More a case of

Pakistan has a better plan moment.

Que sera sera
Whatever it be it be
The futures not ours to see moment is here for many people though
I wish it remains a local issue and it's somehow saved from another catastrophe. However, looks like all the "usual suspects" have taken their "prescribed" positions!!! Now, it's a race against time. At the end of the day, it'll be again the innocent folks who'll be paying dearly....
 
I wish it remains a local issue and it's somehow saved from another catastrophe. However, looks like all the "usual suspects" have taken their "prescribed" positions!!! Now, it's a race against time. At the end of the day, it'll be again the innocent folks who'll be paying dearly....

The cause to live is question for many.
To be a witness a few
To be winners the privileged or the very privileged.

In the end its the imaan that counts my friend.
 

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