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Turkey shifts from US/Israel to Russia/Iran
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The US literally tried to take down the elected Turkish government in a coup including bombing of the parliament building and attempted assassination of President Erdogan. The coup is widely accepted to be directed by the US-based cleric Gulen with support from "NATO" forces within Turkish borders at Incirlik air base.
It is a reflection of US power that despite the extraordinary threat Turkey faces from the US it can do nothing to kick US forces, or the nuclear bombs it stores, out of the country. If Turkey formally demanded the US leave they would laugh and refuse and Turkey becomes another permanently occupied territory like Iraq or Afghanistan.
It is a reflection of US power that despite the extraordinary threat Turkey faces from the US it can do nothing to kick US forces, or the nuclear bombs it stores, out of the country. If Turkey formally demanded the US leave they would laugh and refuse and Turkey becomes another permanently occupied territory like Iraq or Afghanistan.
I don't think its a shift from one side to another, but simply a rebalancing, given the changing dynamics and interests of the parties in the Region, Turkey does not have the same interests as Russia in the Black Sea region or the caucuses, nor does it have the same interests with Iran in the region, with its attempts at hegemony in Iraq or Syria. the current relations are more a failure of American foreign policy, with regards to prioritizing short term gains over long term geopolitical interests, and the misguidings of the Gulf and Israeli lobbies in Washington, who have jeopardized US relation in favor of their own interests..
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Turkey shifts from US/Israel to Russia/Iran? Not really.
Erdogan Says Turkey Won't Be Silent Over Russian-Backed Mercenaries in Libya
By Reuters
Dec. 20, 2019
President Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday that Turkey will not stay silent over Russian-backed mercenaries supporting Khalifa Haftar in Libya, as Moscow voiced concerns over possible Turkish military deployment to Libya in support of Haftar's enemies.
Turkey has backed Libya's internationally recognized government led by Fayez al-Serraj and the two sides signed a security agreement last month which could deepen military cooperation between them.
Turkey has already sent military supplies to Libya in violation of a United Nations arms embargo, according to a report by U.N. experts seen by Reuters last month. It said Serraj's Government of National Accord (GNA) asked Turkey for help after Haftar received support from Jordan and the United Arab Emirates.
Turkey had not responded directly to the assertions in the report, but Erdogan said Ankara could not ignore the support that Haftar was receiving from the Kremlin-linked Wagner group.
"Through the group named Wagner, they are literally working as Haftar's mercenaries in Libya. You know who is paying them," Erdogan was quoted by broadcaster NTV as saying on a flight back from Malaysia.
"That is the case, and it would not be right for us to remain silent against all of this. We have done our best until now, and will continue to do so," he added.
Erdogan's comments come a day after Serraj's government said it ratified last month's security and military accord with Ankara, opening the way for greater Turkish support, as it fights a months-long offensive by Haftar's forces.
Earlier on Friday, Russia said it was very concerned by the prospect of Turkey sending troops to Libya, adding that the deal on military cooperation between Ankara and Tripoli raised many questions for Moscow, according to the Interfax news agency.
Erdogan said on Wednesday Turkey would improve cooperation with Libya by offering military support to the GNA and backing joint steps in the eastern Mediterranean. Ankara has previously said it could send military support to the GNA if it requested it, but says no such request has been made yet.
The Kremlin said on Tuesday Erdogan and Russia's Vladimir Putin would discuss Ankara's potential military deployment to Libya during talks in Turkey next month.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019...er-russian-backed-mercenaries-in-libya-a68704
Erdogan Says Turkey Won't Be Silent Over Russian-Backed Mercenaries in Libya
By Reuters
Dec. 20, 2019
President Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday that Turkey will not stay silent over Russian-backed mercenaries supporting Khalifa Haftar in Libya, as Moscow voiced concerns over possible Turkish military deployment to Libya in support of Haftar's enemies.
Turkey has backed Libya's internationally recognized government led by Fayez al-Serraj and the two sides signed a security agreement last month which could deepen military cooperation between them.
Turkey has already sent military supplies to Libya in violation of a United Nations arms embargo, according to a report by U.N. experts seen by Reuters last month. It said Serraj's Government of National Accord (GNA) asked Turkey for help after Haftar received support from Jordan and the United Arab Emirates.
Turkey had not responded directly to the assertions in the report, but Erdogan said Ankara could not ignore the support that Haftar was receiving from the Kremlin-linked Wagner group.
"Through the group named Wagner, they are literally working as Haftar's mercenaries in Libya. You know who is paying them," Erdogan was quoted by broadcaster NTV as saying on a flight back from Malaysia.
"That is the case, and it would not be right for us to remain silent against all of this. We have done our best until now, and will continue to do so," he added.
Erdogan's comments come a day after Serraj's government said it ratified last month's security and military accord with Ankara, opening the way for greater Turkish support, as it fights a months-long offensive by Haftar's forces.
Earlier on Friday, Russia said it was very concerned by the prospect of Turkey sending troops to Libya, adding that the deal on military cooperation between Ankara and Tripoli raised many questions for Moscow, according to the Interfax news agency.
Erdogan said on Wednesday Turkey would improve cooperation with Libya by offering military support to the GNA and backing joint steps in the eastern Mediterranean. Ankara has previously said it could send military support to the GNA if it requested it, but says no such request has been made yet.
The Kremlin said on Tuesday Erdogan and Russia's Vladimir Putin would discuss Ankara's potential military deployment to Libya during talks in Turkey next month.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019...er-russian-backed-mercenaries-in-libya-a68704
LeGenD
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Absolutely.
Israel have solid relations with USA, Russia and China. Therefore, not much of an issue for it.
Turkey seems to be reducing its reliance on NATO for its security-related needs however.
Turkey probably desire its own arms industry much like France. Russian S-400 might enable Turkey to develop similar assets of its own in the near future. Coup-proofing might also be a factor.
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The sharp sword of Islam has been raised over Istanbul, the great mutawaeen are victorious
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Takbeer, Allahu Akbar
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Not exactly.... conservatives are like the %13 of the population.
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