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Turkey says Kurdish militia kills soldier in northeast Syria despite ceasefire - Reuters
  1. Turkey says Kurdish militia kills soldier in northeast Syria despite ceasefire Reuters
  2. Turkey's Erdogan vows to 'crush heads' of Kurdish fighters BBC News
  3. Kurdish General Slams U.S.-Syria Policy; Gen. Petraeus Calls Withdrawal 'A Betrayal' NPR
  4. Trump didn't sell out the Kurds by pulling out of Syria New York Post
  5. Trump’s Gut, and the Gutting of American Credibility The New York Times
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OCTOBER 20, 2019 / 8:18 AM / UPDATED 3 HOURS AGO
Turkey and Russia to discuss removal of Kurdish militia from Syrian towns

Tuvan Gumrukcu
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ANKARA (Reuters) - Turkey and Russia will discuss the removal of the Syrian Kurdish YPG militia from the northern Syrian towns of Manbij and Kobani during talks in Sochi next week, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said on Sunday.

Turkey paused its military offensive into northeastern Syria after President Tayyip Erdogan agreed on Thursday, in talks with U.S. Vice President Mike Pence, a five-day ceasefire to allow the YPG to withdraw from a “safe zone” Ankara aims to establish near its border.

The truce is also aimed at easing a crisis triggered by U.S. President Donald Trump’s abrupt decision this month to withdraw all 1,000 U.S. troops from northern Syria, a move criticized in Washington and elsewhere as a betrayal of Kurdish allies who had fought for years alongside U.S. troops against Islamic State.

But Trump’s move also means the extent of Turkey’s ambitions in the region is likely to be determined by Russia and Iran, who both support Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and are looking to fill the vacuum created by the U.S. retreat.

Assad has already deployed his forces in territory formerly protected by Washington, invited by the Kurds. Erdogan, who has backed rebels fighting to oust Assad, has said Turkey has no problem with Syrian government forces deploying near the border.

Speaking at an interview with broadcaster Kanal 7 on Sunday, Cavusoglu said urgent talks between Erdogan and Russia’s Vladimir Putin would be held next week.

“We will discuss the removal of the YPG terrorists from our borders, namely Manbij and Kobani, with the Russians,” Cavusoglu said.

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“We believe we can reach an agreement with them to work together in the future, just like we have before.”

Ankara regards the YPG, the main component of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), as a terrorist group because of its links to Kurdish insurgents in southeast Turkey. The YPG has been a close U.S. ally in the fight against Islamic State.

The SDF and Damascus struck a deal this month to counter the Turkish offensive in northeastern Syria, prompting Syrian army forces to deploy in Manbij and Kobani, towns of strategic importance given their location on the Syrian border with Turkey.

While Erdogan and Putin have forged close ties over defense and energy cooperation, Moscow has said the Turkish offensive into Syria was “unacceptable” and should be limited.

Erdogan on Saturday said he would also discuss Syrian army deployment in northern Syria with Putin, saying the two needed to find a solution to the matter. But he warned that “we will continue to implement our own plans” if a solution could not be reached, without elaborating.

Russian officials had spoken to Assad on Friday about the need to de-escalate the situation in northeast Syria, Russia’s foreign ministry said on Saturday.


FRAGILE TRUCE
The surprise deal to suspend Turkey’s military offensive in Syria hinged on Erdogan’s demand that Washington agrees on a time limit on any ceasefire, a senior Turkish official told Reuters on Friday.

The deal aims to stem a humanitarian crisis that has displaced 200,000 civilians in the region and at the same time ease security concerns over thousands of Islamic State captives guarded by the YPG.

Though the fragile truce held for the first two days of the agreement, Turkey’s defense ministry said on Sunday that one Turkish soldier was killed and another was wounded after a YPG attack with anti-tank and light arms hit soldiers on a reconnaissance and surveillance mission in northeast Syria’s Tel Abyad.

It said Turkish forces had responded to the attack and that 20 acts violating the deal were committed by the YPG since the start of the truce.

A separate statement from the ministry late on Saturday said that a convoy of 39 vehicles had entered and exited the border town of Ras al Ain to evacuate injured people.

On Friday the Kurdish militia accused Turkey of violating the five-day pause by shelling civilian areas in the northeast. A senior Turkish official denied the accusations and said they were an attempt to sabotage the truce.


However, Erdogan warned on Saturday that Turkey would resume the offensive and “crush the heads of terrorists” if the agreement faltered, with Turkey insisting it is Washington’s duty to ensure the withdrawal of the YPG.

Cavusoglu reiterated that warning on Saturday, saying the offensive would continue if U.S. promises were not kept. He said Turkey did not want to see “a single terrorist” left in the “safe zone” by the end of the five days.

Turkey’s defense ministry said late on Saturday that it was monitoring the withdrawal of the YPG and was in close contact with U.S. officials to provide logistical information.

Reporting by Tuvan Gumrukcu; Editing by Jane Merriman and David Goodman

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the question has to be asked : what's wrong with a retreat by Kurdish forces? the Turkish buffer zone seems of reasonable size.

and the entire situation also brings forth the question of what is supposed to happen to captured ISIS fighters in the disputed zone? are they to be administred by Turks? and if not that, then what *is* suppose to happen to them, according to the Turks? (who started this, btw)
 
Turkey says Kurdish militia kills soldier in northeast Syria despite ceasefire - Reuters
  1. Turkey says Kurdish militia kills soldier in northeast Syria despite ceasefire Reuters
  2. Turkey's Erdogan vows to 'crush heads' of Kurdish fighters BBC News
  3. Kurdish General Slams U.S.-Syria Policy; Gen. Petraeus Calls Withdrawal 'A Betrayal' NPR
  4. Trump didn't sell out the Kurds by pulling out of Syria New York Post
  5. Trump’s Gut, and the Gutting of American Credibility The New York Times
  6. View full coverage on Google News

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see also : https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/turk...sh-militant-attacks-in-eastern-turkey.390419/



the question has to be asked : what's wrong with a retreat by Kurdish forces? the Turkish buffer zone seems of reasonable size.

and the entire situation also brings forth the question of what is supposed to happen to captured ISIS fighters in the disputed zone? are they to be administred by Turks? and if not that, then what *is* suppose to happen to them, according to the Turks? (who started this, btw)
not militia but terrorists
not kurdish forces but PKK and YPG terrorists.


Turkey says Kurdish militia kills soldier in northeast Syria despite ceasefire - Reuters
  1. Turkey says Kurdish militia kills soldier in northeast Syria despite ceasefire Reuters
  2. Turkey's Erdogan vows to 'crush heads' of Kurdish fighters BBC News
  3. Kurdish General Slams U.S.-Syria Policy; Gen. Petraeus Calls Withdrawal 'A Betrayal' NPR
  4. Trump didn't sell out the Kurds by pulling out of Syria New York Post
  5. Trump’s Gut, and the Gutting of American Credibility The New York Times
  6. View full coverage on Google News

Local : 2019-10-20(Sunday) 08:18:00
Found via nicer.app/news

see also : https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/turk...sh-militant-attacks-in-eastern-turkey.390419/



the question has to be asked : what's wrong with a retreat by Kurdish forces? the Turkish buffer zone seems of reasonable size.

and the entire situation also brings forth the question of what is supposed to happen to captured ISIS fighters in the disputed zone? are they to be administred by Turks? and if not that, then what *is* suppose to happen to them, according to the Turks? (who started this, btw)

Moreover , the page you are referring to dates back to 2015.
@waz @cabatli_53
 
not militia but terrorists
not kurdish forces but PKK and YPG terrorists.




Moreover , the page you are referring to dates back to 2015.
@waz @cabatli_53

yes, that page from 2015 that i mentioned, was to illustrate that i've been aware of Kurdish attacks on Turkish military assets for some time now.

your claims about Kurdish forces being terrorists, are linguistically correct, but not historically-politically in my view, which also happens to be much more imporant considering historic-political covers the efforts of multiple generations of humans.

ALL of the middle east could have done MUCH better with the Sykes-Picot borders that were established in the middle east by the Europeans after WW1. You *could* have formed cooperative regional economies, rather than fight eachother to the death over *living space* and ways to live.
 
exchanging words? then mind to read news more objectively and referencing some news which states Turkish Armed Forces retaliating the terrorists' harassment?

yes, that page from 2015 that i mentioned, was to illustrate that i've been aware of Kurdish attacks on Turkish military assets for some time now.

your claims about Kurdish forces being terrorists, are linguistically correct, but not historically-politically in my view, which also happens to be much more imporant considering historic-political covers the efforts of multiple generations of humans.

ALL of the middle east could have done MUCH better with the Sykes-Picot borders that were established in the middle east by the Europeans after WW1. You *could* have formed cooperative regional economies, rather than fight eachother to the death over *living space* and ways to live.
In that context none of terrorist organization in the world,are not terrorists based on historical political view.
Which counts in Taliban and IS. All terrorist organizations are formed around an ideology and they have their own political correctness.
Terrorist term is quite subjective and you are aware of it as well, you cant personally call PKK or YPG as terrorists since they doesnt have any conflict with your own benefits. Whereas IS is terrorist since they are not beneficial to you.
Simple as that, we dont need to look through political science and spend days on debating which is terrorist and which is not.
Everything would be much better for Europeans if Sykes -Picot and other border agreements were accepted by Turkish people but one point you are missing -> " Independence War".
 
as far as i know, the Kurds are merely looking to establish a homeland of their own, and unlike the Taliban or IS, they do not subject even their own people, to the kinds of enforcement that the Taliban and IS use against what they perceive as social crimes.

the Turks could do a better job pointing out why they label the PKK as terrorists, because as far as i can tell over here, you ended up in a land dispute with them, somehow the fighting got physical, and you've been calling them terrorists ever since.

i'm not against Turkish interests, nor do i think the Kurds should be allowed to establish that homeland of theirs at any cost.

and i'm not against you calling the Kurds terrorists. what i'm against is you expecting the rest of the world to call them that, just because you keep saying they are, and without even providing convincing evidence to support that claim.
 
LOL getting beaten everywhere. Look at his frustrated peace of crap ranting like a helpless coward.

Now pay your US/NATO taxes because you owe them that much.

well, since you started this round of insults, let me rebuke you right here.

you're an aggressive moron who shouldn't try to debate anything on a public forum, where there might be others who do not share your views.
 
as far as i know, the Kurds are merely looking to establish a homeland of their own, and unlike the Taliban or IS, they do not subject even their own people, to the kinds of enforcement that the Taliban and IS use against what they perceive as social crimes.

the Turks could do a better job pointing out why they label the PKK as terrorists, because as far as i can tell over here, you ended up in a land dispute with them, somehow the fighting got physical, and you've been calling them terrorists ever since.

i'm not against Turkish interests, nor do i think the Kurds should be allowed to establish that homeland of theirs at any cost.

and i'm not against you calling the Kurds terrorists. what i'm against is you expecting the rest of the world to call them that, just because you keep saying they are, and without even providing convincing evidence to support that claim.

We will maintain the strategic values over propaganda news especially where so & so group is a threat to a sovereign nation and is declared terrorist. Otherwise, terrorist like ISIS that slit throats of westerners will be then hero to someone?

Turkey says Kurdish militia kills soldier in northeast Syria despite ceasefire - Reuters
  1. Turkey says Kurdish militia kills soldier in northeast Syria despite ceasefire Reuters
  2. Turkey's Erdogan vows to 'crush heads' of Kurdish fighters BBC News
  3. Kurdish General Slams U.S.-Syria Policy; Gen. Petraeus Calls Withdrawal 'A Betrayal' NPR
  4. Trump didn't sell out the Kurds by pulling out of Syria New York Post
  5. Trump’s Gut, and the Gutting of American Credibility The New York Times
  6. View full coverage on Google News

Local : 2019-10-20(Sunday) 08:18:00
Found via nicer.app/news

see also : https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/turk...sh-militant-attacks-in-eastern-turkey.390419/



the question has to be asked : what's wrong with a retreat by Kurdish forces? the Turkish buffer zone seems of reasonable size.

and the entire situation also brings forth the question of what is supposed to happen to captured ISIS fighters in the disputed zone? are they to be administred by Turks? and if not that, then what *is* suppose to happen to them, according to the Turks? (who started this, btw)

Digging news from 2015? Well, I will respect the sovereignty of a Nation over a pawn group or terrorists.
 
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