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I hope she was a girl otherwise the time she was talking about attractive guys was disturbing.Some said she, some said he.... no one knows for sure.
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I hope she was a girl otherwise the time she was talking about attractive guys was disturbing.Some said she, some said he.... no one knows for sure.
Yes follow the Iranian islamic state mullah model.we are two step away from becoming an islamic republic



Yes follow the Iranian islamic state mullah model.
Jokes aside, I don't think this move is something to be particularly alarmed about, allowing women serving in the Army to wear the full veil shouldn't be a concern. What should be worrying is Erdogan's support and harboring of some elements/members from Islamic extremist groups like Hamas ,Muslim brotherhood etc.
I don't think he needed to drastically change Turkey's political/religious policies when he assumed office. As they say why change a winning team or better still why fix something that isn't broken'?![]()


Funny thing is, accusations towards me are made, and I was defending myself -> but my post gets removed and I get banned from Cay Bahcesi. And the accusations still remains in that section.
People keeps calling me a multi accounter, a terrorist, a traitor and what not, and not the slightest fraction of a dime happens to them. All their accusations has no origin. Their thick brain cannot grasp that I'm not Zulkarneyn. What kind of imbecile have they become? Erdogan hatred has truly blinded them from any reality.
what i find astonishing is that majority of islamists. who hate secularism or secular life style are living in europe which is secular and kaffir a the same time.oh the irony. there should be a rule if you don't like or appreciate the secular life style of europe you should be depotred to wherever place you come from...
Secularism as a concept is very multiplex and the precise configuration of that varies from country to country. I guess the Turkish definition is evolving - bearing in mind it was product of a politics of a time. Now similarly it is being revisited to be brought in more in sync with the genius of the present ruling elite.
Only a guy in uniform will respect and understand your feelings.Dude (and for every other damn post that emphasizes the Western European armies on this) ..whatever the decision we or our politicians take, on issues like this let me make us clear: the Turkish Armed Forces does not give a fu*k or get affected by what other militaries do on issues like this (e.g headscarf).
So please everyone stop sharing pictures like that on this topic it won't help. Having secular military components has nothing to do with that of Europe or USA's; unlike your armies.
And for foreign members, we respect your contributions. I did my time close to 4 years at the Navy and one year as a commando in Gendarmerie. Sinan did his time as Artillery and like him, every other Turk here has done his military service. Even for those that contradict with my opinion, they don't talk nonsense, they speak by experience. But in this topic please guys stop acting like you're a pro on the internal matters of Turkish Armed Forces which even being a Turk doesn't necessarily makes you understand the issue fully. It's not arrogant but also funny.
Pardon my harsh language but reading all those 5 pages long posts gave me no chance.
Secularism and laicism is what made the difference between Turkey and other muslim dominated countries like Pakistan,Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iraq etc.
However, you think otherwise.
What Secularism and laicism mean for you?
Oh stop with this....Nobody want to end the secularism but to adapt it to the society. A regid secularism will only make people hate it and don't understant it. Some people are convinced that secular means anti-religions rather than everybody is free with his religion because of kemalist extrem secularism.
In US the president, military officier, and even judge swear by the bible....I don't even imagine some kemalist reaction if Erdogan govt wanted to do the same thing...
Anyways no need to take exemple with SA, Iran, or other country....Turks has always diffrent than them, Ottoman Empire in 16 siecle was more liberal than any EU country, and even more liberal than SA today.
Some people are convinced that secular means anti-religions rather than everybody is free with his religion because of kemalist extrem secularism.
.I don't even imagine some kemalist reaction if Erdogan govt wanted to do the same thing.