Turkey arrests 24 over criticism of Syria offensive

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Turkey arrests 24 over criticism of Syria offensive

ANKARA (Reuters) - Turkish authorities have arrested 24 people for spreading “black propaganda” on social media about Ankara’s military operation in Syria, the state-run Anadolu news agency said on Wednesday.

In northeast Syria, where Turkey is aiming to establish a “safe zone” to settle millions of Syrian refugees, Turkish forces and their Syrian rebel allies pressed ahead with their offensive, while Russia-backed Syrian troops moved on the city of Manbij after it was abandoned by U.S. forces.

Since the start of the operation, authorities have carried out a widespread crackdown on individuals criticizing the Turkish operation, launching investigations against hundreds of people, including Kurdish lawmakers.


On Wednesday, Anadolu said 24 of the 186 people who had been detained for criticizing the operation on social media had been formally arrested. The suspects had been accused of “provoking the public to hatred and animosity” and “carrying out propaganda for a terrorist organization”.

Turkey says it will clear a large area along its border with Syria, targeting the Syrian Kurdish YPG militia, which it says is a terrorist group linked to Kurdish insurgents in Turkey.

While most of Turkey’s opposition parties have backed the operation, the pro-Kurdish Peoples Democratic Party (HDP) has called for an end to what it describes it as an “invasion attempt”. Prosecutors launched an investigation against the HDP’s co-chairs over their comments.

Authorities launched similar investigations after Turkey’s two previous cross-border operations. More than 300 people were detained for social media posts criticizing an offensive into northern Syria in January 2018.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-turkey-arrest/turkey-arrests-24-over-criticism-of-syria-offensive-news-agency-idUSKBN1WV13Y

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cry more cry liar scums

Since Turkey launched an anti-terror operation in northern Syria last Wednesday, a total of 24 people have been remanded into custody for spreading online disinformation, security sources
via news void of any source and supporting the terror groups online




even ABC trying to use gun range footage as "Turkish Massacre

The video was originally used by PKK/YPG supporters claiming they were fighting the Turkish, showing that this isn't a mistake on ABC's part, but a flat-out lie

 

[Timur]

they should face death this filth of filth is worser than the enemy in syria!

real scum

 

[sammuel]

cry more cry

Indeed you should.

Now i don't know exactly who got arrested this time and what exactly they wrote. ( i doubt you do )

But for the last few years we see more and more attacks on freedom of expression in turkey.

Whether it is Journalists , bloggers or even someone posting a silly caricature of Erduagn looking like Gollum. Got into trouble for offending his royal highness , president Erduagn .

The court than had to decide whether comparing Erduagn to Gollum constitute an offence of insulting the president . Seems he is a sensitive guy and is easily offended . . .

People should be allowed to express themselves freely , especially on the topic whether a country should or should not be involved in war.

You should not think lightly of it.

Just think how world history would look like without the anti war protests of the 60's

Imagine if all those in the US , where not allowed to demonstrate against the war in Vietnam :

Come on mothers throughout the land
pack your boys off to Viet Nam

come on fathers don't hesitate
send your sons off before it's too late

and you can be the first ones on your block
to have your boy come home in a box

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Indeed you should.

Now i don't know exactly who got arrested this time what exactly they wrote. ( i doubt you do )

But for the last few years we see more and more attacks on freedom of expression in turkey.

Whether it is Journalists , bloggers even someone posting a silly caricature of Erduagn looking like Gollum. Got into trouble for offending his royal highness , president Erduagn .

The court than had to decide whether comparing Erduagn to Gollum constitute an offence of insulting the president . Seems he is a sensitive guy and is easily offended . . .

People should be allowed to express themselves freely , especially on the topic whether a country should or should not be involved in war.

You should not think lightly of it.

Just think how world history would look like without the anti war protests of the 60's

Imagine all those in the US not allowed to demonstrate agains the war in Vietnam :

Come on mothers throughout the land
pack your boys off to Viet Nam

come on fathers don't hesitate
send your sons off before it's too late

and you can be the first ones on your block
to have your boy come home in a box

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Turkey is in Syria to fight terrorism


go and talk this tales to the US who is fighting in Afghanistan , Iraq and Syria after the 9/11 attacks

and nobody can do pro ALQAEDA , ISIS propaganda in the US ,,

 

[sammuel]

and nobody can do pro ALQAEDA , ISIS propaganda in the US ,,

One day you are going to wake up and realize that the real threat to people's freedom in this region , comes not for some out side threat , but from their own leaders ...

Beside , your excuse is irrelevant. We are not talking about people encouraging terror online , which would be a illegal in any country. There are thousands of people in turkey that have been harassed by the authority in recent years for expressing their views.


eg :

Turkey guilty verdict for depicting Erdogan as Gollum
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36610000

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Beside , your excuse is irrelevant. We are not talking about people encouraging terror online , which would be a illegal in any country. There are thousands of people in turkey that have been harassed by the authority in recent years for expressing their views.

Its your lies

Turkey is fighting against PKK , DHKPC and FETO Terror Organizations at the same time
so Nobody can do terror propaganda

and We dont care about liar zionist media

 

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Terror supporters' social media accounts share misdated, framed images of burned, burning military vehicles

 

[dBSPL]

A large number of people, from MPs to civil society leaders, are heavily criticizing the operation.

Many news channel's programs are going through very tense... Many Turks are influential on social media with the campaign of "No to War / Savaşa Hayır " . https://twitter.com/hashtag/SavaşaHayır?src=hashtag_click

But there's a subtle difference: You may not support the operation, but you cannot spread false rumors. you can't commit hate crimes. You can't develop racist discourse. You can't say that the soldier who was martyred in the operation would f*ck his wife.

Look at the flag below the person who opens this tittle.

He is the spokesman for a state of terrorism that takes even small children into custody and keeps people in custody for weeks without starting a judicial process.

The most distorted form of PSYOP we see in this forum is that these people try to create perception on other countries by highlighting things that are not in their own country.

No more questions.

 

[Timur]

Just think how world history would look like without the anti war protests of the 60's

dont dare compare those anti war protests who have done it by conviction in their hearts with these false hyennas and snakes..

it is a really disgusting move by you! and now? lets apply the same logic of yours to you and your kind sure you wont accept it and you may cry out its a different thing:

Hitler was a savior, he tried to save the world from zionist enslavement! all this death and big wars and games and the world domination caused by the zoinists and their minions was his nightmare.. he tried his upmost best to fight against this zionist elements! the germans were the spearheads in the war against jewish zionism! thats why they should have been supported by all muslims araound the world. the civilisized world came to an end by this zionist elemtents. the ww2 is caused by zionists to create their world domination plan and they are waiting and preparing for their messias (the one eyed liar) together with their minions all around the world.


but by the way I said I will use your logic against you or your view against you.. here in this is some truth

Erdogan as Gollum

using lord of the rings? you know that this racists movie and books show the british (hobbits) as the good ones.. and the orks (turks tork ork) as the bad ones and saroman sulaiman salomon the one with the ring given by god to rule ? gollom = güllüm (my rose) just a filthy movie showing salomon in a bad way..

you can take this racism into your butt its the place where it belongs to..

 

[sammuel]

Its your lies

Turkey is fighting against PKK , DHKPC and FETO Terror Organizations at the same time
so Nobody can do terror propaganda

and We dont care about liar zionist media

A large number of people, from MPs to civil society leaders, are heavily criticizing the operation.

Many news channel's programs are going through very tense... Many Turks are influential on social media with the campaign of "No to War / Savaşa Hayır " . https://twitter.com/hashtag/SavaşaHayır?src=hashtag_click

But there's a subtle difference: You may not support the operation, but you cannot spread false rumors. you can't commit hate crimes. You can't develop racist discourse. You can't say that the soldier who was martyred in the operation would f*ck his wife.

Look at the flag below the person who opens this tittle.

He is the spokesman for a state of terrorism that takes even small children into custody and keeps people in custody for weeks without starting a judicial process.

The most distorted form of PSYOP we see in this forum is that these people try to create perception on other countries by highlighting things that are not in their own country.

No more questions.

dont dare compare those anti war protests who have done it by conviction in their hearts with these false hyennas and snakes..

it is a really disgusting move by you! and now? lets apply the same logic of yours to you and your kind sure you wont accept it and you may cry out its a different thing:

Hitler was a savior, he tried to save the world from zionist enslavement! all this death and big wars and games and the world domination caused by the zoinists and their minions was his nightmare.. he tried his upmost best to fight against this zionist elements! the germans were the spearheads in the war against jewish zionism! thats why they should have been supported by all muslims araound the world. the civilisized world came to an end by this zionist elemtents. the ww2 is caused by zionists to create their world domination plan and they are waiting and preparing for their messias (the one eyed liar) together with their minions all around the world.


but by the way I said I will use your logic against you or your view against you.. here in this is some truth




using lord of the rings? you know that this racists movie and books show the british (hobbits) as the good ones.. and the orks (turks tork ork) as the bad ones and saroman sulaiman salomon the one with the ring given by god to rule ? gollom = güllüm (my rose) just a filthy movie showing salomon in a bad way..

you can take this racism into your butt its the place where it belongs to..

You are simply denying what is a clear fact. That Turkey does have freedom of expression problem.

This problem did not exist before , in fact i remember a few years ago there where hopes Turkey would lead and set an example for democracy in the middle east.

But you really have to bury your head in the sand to not see this is no longer the case.

I do not have anything against Turkey , so trying to make it personal and attack my country is childish.

And you need not take my word on decline of freedom of expression in Turkey ,

Here is freedom of the press report about Turkey ,

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2019/turkey



when you have a status of not free , you know you have a problem :

An ongoing crisis: Freedom of speech in Turkey

https://www.dw.com/en/an-ongoing-crisis-freedom-of-speech-in-turkey/a-47405671

 

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And you need not take my word on decline of freedom of expression in Turkey ,

Here is freedom of the press report about Turkey ,

https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2019/turkey

Freedomhouse = Zionist sponsored

except Turkey No country in the world under attack by the US , the EU , Israel , S.Arabia , The Uae and their terrorist groups PKK/YPG , DHKPC and FETO

We dont care about lies and anti Turkish propaganda all around world


support terrorism , lies and anti Turkish propaganda are not freedom of speech

 

[Timur]

That Turkey does have freedom of expression problem.

you talk to much nonsense.. we have as much as freedom of expression problem as germany, US and much more freedom as israel.. try to talk nice about nazis in germany, try to talk nice about alqaida in US and try to talk nice about both in israel..


but shure your problem is another one wich you dont say openly.. this ppl should get death penalty..

 

[sammuel]

Freedomhouse = Zionist sponsored

Bring your own source if you think you have a better one.

( the source you used so far which is : " because i say so " ... is no source )

There is a fine line between being patriotic , which is understandable , and being an extreme nationalists.

If you are OK with your own people to be afraid to post what they want in a blog ,than you have passed that line.




support terrorism , lies and anti Turkish propaganda are not freedom of speech[/QUOTE]

. we have as much as freedom of expression problem as germany, US and much more freedom as israel...

No you don't

You may be up to standards with countries like china or Russia , some countirs in Africa and the middle east.

But you are no where near the situation in Europe , US , South America , Australia are trialing behind my country as well on this issue.

You can compare countries on the interactive map here.


https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/freedom-world-2019/map

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