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Trump's Iran strikes U-turn underscores war and peace dilemma
Trump explains decision to call off strike

President Donald Trump blinked.

By calling off US forces poised Thursday night to launch retaliatory strikes on Iran, Trump stepped back from the brink of a dangerous escalation in the standoff -- but raised a flurry of immediate questions about his performance as commander-in-chief.

"We were cocked & loaded to retaliate last night on 3 different sights when I asked, how many will die. 150 people, sir, was the answer from a General. 10 minutes before the strike I stopped it, not...proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone. I am in no hurry,"
Trump tweeted Friday morning.
On the face of it, the last-minute pivot provokes the question of why he did not inquire about the human toll of the proposed attacks, that US officials said were on missile batteries and radars, before signing off on the mission to avenge the downing of the unmanned US aircraft.
By calling off the strikes, Trump was being true to himself -- and his desire to avoid being pulled into a new Middle East conflagration -- a principle that is at the core of his political beliefs and is central to his plan to win reelection in November 2020.
But all the same, his decision seems to reveal a chaotic and broken policy process on a matter of grave national security -- at a time when the Pentagon is rudderless without a permanent secretary of defense.
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More broadly, pulling back from an attack will not go unobserved by America's adversaries who may interpret it as a spur to push Trump further than they might have before. He has also handed a victory to a US enemy -- Iran -- by showing that it could shoot down a sophisticated $110 million military asset with impunity. The move may mean that Iran feels it has latitude to move again against US interests -- but may escape retaliation by staying short of Trump's new red line.
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Trump and Bolton debate how to deal with Iran as Pompeo 'triangulates,' officials say

Usually, a good guide to Trump's future action on foreign policy is to identify the course that will most swiftly benefit him politically.
But the current crisis appears to draw two aspects of the President's personal interests into conflict.
Avoiding foreign entanglements is a core principle of Trumpism. The President doesn't even want US in peacetime deployments in allied nations, let alone at war in the Gulf.
But even a "proportional" US military response, like shooting down an Iranian drone or attacking the base that fired the missile that brought down the US aircraft, would likely force the Islamic Republic to up the stakes considerably again. Trump would inevitably be drawn deeper into the quicksand of the Middle East.
The President also has his own image and credibility to consider.
His failure to respond to Iran's escalation would add to a growing impression that Trump's "fire and fury" rhetoric and strongman persona rarely translates into action. He knows that foreign powers such as China, North Korea and Russia are watching carefully. He'd hate to to look weak heading into meetings at the upcoming G20 summit in Japan with Presidents Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping.
A classic Presidential conundrum


Trump downplays Iran tensions after drone shot down

For perhaps the first time, Trump is being forced to agonize over a classic presidential problem -- one that has no good outcomes and ends up on the President's desk because everyone else has failed to solve it.
Trump often has a deeply idiosyncratic concept of the US national interest -- when he takes it into consideration at all on a thorny foreign policy question.
But this is different. American lives may well rest on his response. The nation could be sliding towards a major war with a power that is far more capable than Iraq -- which managed to bog down US troops for a decade. A prolonged conflict with Iran could unleash geopolitical and domestic forces that could destroy his presidency if it goes wrong.
Trump leads from the gut, disdains detail and often appears to handle crises by saying or doing whatever it takes to get to the end of the day. This building crisis requires study, strategic thinking three, four or five steps ahead and an evaluation of the cascade of consequences that could unfold from any course of action.
National security emergencies often stretch an administration to its limits and require a unity of purpose and inter-agency cohesion that Trump has gone out of his way to undermine.
One clear problem for Trump is that while he may wish to de-escalate tensions with Iran, there may be little incentive for Tehran to cooperate.
That's because US sanctions under Trump's maximum pressure campaign have strangled the Iranian economy and caused serious deprivation amid the population.
Recent incidents, including the downing of the drone, attacks on shipping in the Gulf of Oman, and the Islamic Republic's warning that it will break international limits on uranium enrichment, appear to be an attempt to impose consequent costs on the US.
So without an alleviation of sanctions -- that Washington is in no mood to offer or a significant offer from Trump to bring Iran to the table -- it may be locked into its current course.
Even then, Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei has said that Trump's decision to pull out of Obama's nuclear deal means Washington can never be trusted in a dialogue again.
Trump could 'bumble into war'


Iran shoots down US drone aircraft, raising tensions further in Strait of Hormuz

Washington buzzed with speculation on Thursday about Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Trump's national security adviser John Bolton who are seen as drivers of the tough US Iran policy.
Critics charge the pair, who replaced officials who opposed Trump's decision to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal, with creating the crisis through their advice to Trump.
But Brian Hook, the US special envoy for Iran, this week insisted that despite Iranian provocations, the administration's policy was working and had weakened Iran.
He fueled an impression that parts of the administration welcome the showdown, after disputing the notion that the Iran deal had at least frozen the question of an Iranian bomb for a decade.
"Rather than wait for all of these things to come to pass in 10 years when Iran is stronger, we have pulled that forward," Hook told a House Foreign Affairs subcommittee on Wednesday.
"I truly believe that everything we are seeing today is inevitable," he said.
This is one problem that will not be solved with a tweet and is asking questions of the President that he has never faced before.
This story has been updated.


i think Trump should not have gambled on the Iran issue.

i wonder in what other major policy decisions he just gambles hoping for a best outcome primarily for himself and his precious reputation.

but now that we're here, we should face the simple question : how to put too heavy a price on what Iran's doing at the moment, without ending up in all out war with them.

for starters, that custom sanctions program i mentioned earlier, one that targets the iranian leaderships (political, religious, military, intel, upper business class) economically and in terms of being able to move freely around the world, instead of their entire economy,
should be re-considered by the Americans.

and strikes on their military assets should not be excluded from our list of options that we'd actually use.

even if it does create casualties among their military.

the reason for this is simple : the Iranians will indeed pressure the Americans and the West and our regional allies into a corner that we've been trying to avoid for decades, and are now attempting to avoid with these very policies now in effect against Iran, using our fear of getting involved with them in a larger conflict to apply that pressure.

my best guess would be to send in enough troops to deter Iran on a longterm basis (up to 2 decades i'd imagine),
and to not avoid putting a price, even in lives taken, on the downing of expensive military assets like this drone that the Iranians shot down.

Trump made the right call turning the incident so far into a show that has drawn the necessary media attention for it to be considered by many people,
instead of just going it alone and potentially starting a much wider war.

the Iranian leaderships respect nothing but the most wisely applied strength.


 

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It underscores the dysfunction of USA foreign policy. It stopped making sense to me a while back. I give Trump credit for trying to be more pragmatic. He need to couple that with less macho talk....if he is not going to back it up.
 
Such climaxes repeatedly underscores how US, Israel and Iran are playing the game of making every one fool in middleast... as a result they are profiting all around.

the ongoing cricket world cup could be one of the reasons of delay in US strikes on iran.

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kids cant understand the the amount of wealth involved in big sports events.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket...cup-has-grown-commercial-behemoth-wealthiest/
and it is just the tip of the ice berg. how much the media power houses earn through such events? and who owns the major media power houses? i think sane minds can figure this out.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...in-ad-sales/articleshow/69213027.cms?from=mdr
https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/181588
everything is business these days. from health, education, sports to politics and wars. the players are just the gladiators but the real beneficiaries are using them.
 
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