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Transit Facilities to India, Nepal, Bhutan $2.3b net profit in 30 years projected

does always money matter?its really silly government just dreaming of money,skipping the sensitive issues and facts....and i m really doubtful though about the money mentioned above..

The amount of money which was mentioned is really a tiny amount if you compare it for 30 years...Its true I am also concern about other impact of transit on bd both physically and economically...
 
I understand that in BD no party listens to any other party. AL and BNP do not care opinions of each other. In that case BD needs a neutral and strong intel agency like ISI or else who will give report to the government before signing anything with foreign countries by judging the present and future cost-benefits, strategy, policy, objective and good or bad intention of the foreign countries.
 
there is no cure for cynicism dezi, it will never be enough for some people. I'm just glad that progressive leadership is in power in both india and bd

Define what you wanted to mean by cynicism and answer my question how much bd will bebefit from this transit economically and how much it will contribute to the gdp growth... or it will impact negatively to the bd economy...n just wondering whether india will give bangladesh-china transit with the same term as this one???
 
I understand that in BD no party listens to any other party. AL and BNP do not care opinions of each other. In that case BD needs a neutral and strong intel agency like ISI or else who will give report to the government before signing anything with foreign countries by judging the present and future cost-benefits, strategy, policy, objective and good or bad intention of the foreign countries.

I agree with you... but just wondering whether political parties will allow to make a powerful intel org after 1/11 and also wondering whether bd has the capability to make a org like ISI or RAW at this point of time as it will require huge resource and training with the help of super power like usa, russia or china.... but is it really worth to bring these wolfs in the guise of sheep here....
 
If building roads would have been enough to make a huge development of the surrounding region of the road then whole of bd will be developed in just mater of years as bd government is inventing for infrastructure of various form...
Building roads is a "part" of the development. I will tell you how the villages near my native area benefited. Firstly they were able to transport their produce to markets farther than their local market which gave them more profits and a bigger customer base. This encouraged a few to strive harder for higher yields, so some of them mechanised their farming equipments which gave them even higher yields. Thats how it works.

If you would have read my previous post then you would have seen my concern was different.... to figure it out how much it will benefit bd... how much this transit will create problem in bd internally, how much bd will lost business... how much it will affect transportation sector..... whether this transit make bd a terrorism target of the NE indian terrorist org etc... if you would have looked at my previous post I said it clearly I have no problem in giving transit to the india as long as it is beneficial to bd.... n in return bd should get some other form of benefit from india.... should get her legal right of water, easy access of bd product to india... n vice versa.... not just a one sided deal....
Of course... totally agree with this. Thats why I said it is for you and your govt to decide, but in your points against the investment you didn't mention about how much impact it will have on the local region and the local economy. Plus you are already getting transit fees from India isnt it?... For each give and take transaction you can have only so much leverage... now if you want to negotiate the whole plethora of issues (that you mentioned above)... then it becomes unreasonable right?
 
I agree with you... but just wondering whether political parties will allow to make a powerful intel org after 1/11 and also wondering whether bd has the capability to make a org like ISI or RAW at this point of time as it will require huge resource and training with the help of super power like usa, russia or china.... but is it really worth to bring these wolfs in the guise of sheep here....


I think today or tomorrow, whether BD will grow economically or not but BD will need a strong inter org for its future peaceful existence. Why BD did not think about that before, why BD did not learn for others? If govt would run on intel's opinions then we could rely on govt's activities without suspects. A reliable intel org can be a buffering agent to keep the trust among political parties and mass.
 
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Building roads is a "part" of the development. I will tell you how the villages near my native area benefited. Firstly they were able to transport their produce to markets farther than their local market which gave them more profits and a bigger customer base. This encouraged a few to strive harder for higher yields, so some of them mechanised their farming equipments which gave them even higher yields. Thats how it works.


Of course... totally agree with this. Thats why I said it is for you and your govt to decide, but in your points against the investment you didn't mention about how much impact it will have on the local region and the local economy. Plus you are already getting transit fees from India isnt it?... For each give and take transaction you can have only so much leverage... now if you want to negotiate the whole plethora of issues (that you mentioned above)... then it becomes unreasonable right?

Dezi I want to make some fact clear to you.... already there are roads which can connet benapol to agortola... it is not like that bd does not have any road and infrastructure but the issue is these roads are not capable enough to carry heavy trucks and container which will come from india.... so the main part of the investment will be to make the roads capable enough to carry indian trucks and container... so it is honestly doing very little benefit to the bangladesh....

N this $2.3 billion net profit is considered after taking consideration of all the transit fees and other stuff.

One of the other big issue is terrorism from the NE indian terrorist org as they will accuse bd for undermining their claim of independence from india by giving it the transit.... if bd is targeted by these groups who will give the damage fees to bd for their act of terrorism???
 
I think today or tomorrow, whether BD will grow economically or not but BD will need a strong inter org for its future peaceful existence. Why BD did not think about that before, why BD did not learn for others? If govt would run on intel's opinions then we could rely on govt's activities without suspects. A reliable intel org can be a buffering agent to keep the trust among political parties and mass.

I agree with you... by 2020 bd should think of making such org.... but political will of the parties and honesty of the org is also needed... If everything goes well I believe bangladesh will achieve 10% or more year on year gdp growth by that time.....so bangladesh should economically viable to make such org and by this time bd should make all the local intel org stronger....
 
Building roads is a "part" of the development. I will tell you how the villages near my native area benefited. Firstly they were able to transport their produce to markets farther than their local market which gave them more profits and a bigger customer base. This encouraged a few to strive harder for higher yields, so some of them mechanised their farming equipments which gave them even higher yields. Thats how it works.

Of course... totally agree with this. Thats why I said it is for you and your govt to decide, but in your points against the investment you didn't mention about how much impact it will have on the local region and the local economy. Plus you are already getting transit fees from India isnt it?... For each give and take transaction you can have only so much leverage... now if you want to negotiate the whole plethora of issues (that you mentioned above)... then it becomes unreasonable right?

I think, you are telling us of the SECONDARY benefits that a road basically meant for Indian transit can give to BD. Bangladesh already has many thousands kms of pakka and kaccha roads. These are already giving usgood results.

However, a few km of road meant for Indian transit is not that beneficial for our population as a whole. So, we have to take up the transit in terms of DIRECT benefits only. It means how much we invest and how much we benefit.

If, suppose, this $1.7 billion is kept as a fixed deposit in an international Bank, it will produce a yearly benefit of more than $50 million. If it is kept in a BD Bank, it will yield more than $100 million. Then why to invest a large sum of our money in a venture that does benefit India, but does not benefit our own country?

Now, think of the money that we will be investing for the maintenance of roads and river ports. So, the cost surpasses the benefits even if you do not consider the ecological effects on our nation.

This transit facility to India seems to be a free lunch for that country, and should be stopped or re-negotiated.
 
Transit facility doesn't mean a few km of roads but revamping a whole infrastructure which is very important for any country to develop.

Let me give you the example of China and India.

What helped China to carry out their industrial revolution, nothing but their awesome infrastructure. ie. web of high-speed motorways, rails etc. India had to bypass the industrial revolution and concentrate on service sector just because we didn't and still don't have enough infrastructure. Why do you thing GoI spending 1 trillion dollar to revamp infrastructure, we already have pakka, kachchha and all types of roads.

It's tough for BD to carry out a service sector revolution like India the only way forward for you guys to follow China's model and you need awesome infrastructure for that.
 
This is am open ended question how much bd economy will be benefited by making road and rail link from benapol to agortola..... this routes will mainly be used by indians.... n 1 billion dollar is a too small amount... if i am not wrong the 6 lane dhaka chittagong connecting road will cost around or over 6 billion dollar and it will contribute 1.7 percent gdp growth.... but just wondering how much this benapol agortola connecting route will contribute gdp groth to bd??

The same way India is going to be benefited from the transit. It will reduce the time to carry goods from one place to another. And is India building only Benapole to Agartala road? I think a lot of other projects are in table.
 
Transit facility doesn't mean a few km of roads but revamping a whole infrastructure which is very important for any country to develop.

Let me give you the example of China and India.

What helped China to carry out their industrial revolution, nothing but their awesome infrastructure. ie. web of high-speed motorways, rails etc. India had to bypass the industrial revolution and concentrate on service sector just because we didn't and still don't have enough infrastructure. Why do you thing GoI spending 1 trillion dollar to revamp infrastructure, we already have pakka, kachchha and all types of roads.

It's tough for BD to carry out a service sector revolution like India the only way forward for you guys to follow China's model and you need awesome infrastructure for that.

We need at least another $50 billion to build our physical infrastructure. So, ask your govt to parcel this money and then talk about the benefits we will receive out of it. We have invested in many thousands kms of paved roads since 1947, and has spent at least $2 billion every year at the current dollar since that time. We need many more billion dollars and many more years to build a composite network of roads and bridges.

Now, India is here asking for a transit, we build the roads and India gets all the benefits, but we get nothing in exchange. BD should behave just like all those BENIYAS and MARWARIS who would not even spit without a benefit out of it.
 
Bangladesh has provided transit facility to Bhutan, Nepal, Myanmar and China too but that is not a concern to anybody but once it is provided to India it becomes an issue and every dollar spent/earned will be counted. Great logic.

BTW this transit facility is part of bigger scheme of things. India and Bangladesh have signed multiple agreements

1. 1 billion $ line of credit
2. Border haat agreement
3. Indo-Bangla boundary agreement
4. Electricity Deal
5. Bangladesh given transit through India to Nepal and from there to China

And if you lookup more, there might be more agreements signed which i might have missed out. Now we can not see each agreement individually and yes both India and Bangladesh must benefit out of these else why would anybody want to invest so much money.

Out of this Transit facility also you will get Infrastructure and you will earn transit facility moreover the items approved for transit will be pre defined by Bangladesh so how is it going to impact you guys????
 
India has direct borders with bhutan, nepal, myanmar and bangladesh.. so what is this transit anyway??? :what:
 
India has direct borders with bhutan, nepal, myanmar and bangladesh.. so what is this transit anyway??? :what:

To shorten the distance between the Northeast and other parts of India, and avoid having to travel through the Chicken's neck in the North of West Bengal, and taking a long detour around BD to reach the North East.
 

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