TLP during the leadership of Allama Khadim Hussain Razavi

[عقاب]

Exactly, we can never know this much of Islam but we just know that a person claiming the exclusive copyright © on being Ashiq-e-Rasool can never utter these words.

Looking forward to some creative innovative justification for it as well

Is bndy k character ka pta chlta h itni gali di h or maa behan ki gali ni di isne usi bnday ko direct nanga kiya h just , bht se logon ki asliyat btai h inhon ne
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Exactly, we can never know this much of Islam but we just know that a person claiming the exclusive copyright © on being Ashiq-e-Rasool can never utter these words.

Looking forward to some creative innovative justification for it as well

100% agree with what he said in his first video except that Imran is agent of yahood.
Imran is not agent of yahood but he only has a good percentage mentality of a western modern christian or yahoodi.
Agree with rest of video

 

[El Sidd]

Ah yes, important math. Like,

"The party’s candidates placed third in 62 NA constituencies in Punjab".....

"Out of 141 NA seats in Punjab, the TLP fielded candidates in 121 constituencies; this is astonishing for a party of its size and experience"......especially astonishing since it doesn't take anything to field a candidate.

"The TLP fielded 262 candidates — surprisingly, nine of them women — out of 297 constituencies for the Punjab Assembly. A TLP candidate stood runner-up in PP-71, Hafizabad-III."

All immensely useful criteria to judge the elections by. Unlike the facts that TLP won zero seats in the NA and 2 in the Sindh assembly. That's a (2/571)*100 = 0.35% success rate. Did I do the math right?

No political party can boast such success with their maiden general elections.

TLP is a true nationwide party unlike its competition.

 

[newb3e]

Fair enough, so what is your stance on mumtaz qadri now and his supporters, facilitators, admirers?

what about those who distributed money to tlp dharna attendees?

 

[El Sidd]

what about those who distributed money to tlp dharna attendees?

Who gave the governor right to incite people?

Who will hold the dictator accountable for imposing individuals who don't conform to social and moral values practiced by the populace?

 

[newb3e]

Who gave the governor right to incite people?

Who will hold the dictator accountable for imposing individuals who don't conform to social and moral values practiced by the populace?

and what social and moral values are populace following?

 

[El Sidd]

and what social and moral values are populace following?

It does not matter. What matters is that consensus of populace is taken into account through the mandate of the vote not mandate of might is right.

 

[krash]

No political party can boast such success with their maiden general elections.

TLP is a true nationwide party unlike its competition.

In case you were serious.

Incorrect.

- PPP in the 1970 general elections.

- Awami League in the 1970 general elections.

- PML(N) in the 1988 general elections under the IJI.

- MQM in the 1988 general elections as independents.

- JUP in the 1990 general elections.

- Islamic Jamhoori Mahaz in the 1993 general elections.

- BNP in the 1997 general elections.


There are more but these should be enough.

 

[El Sidd]

In case you were serious.

Incorrect.

- PPP in the 1970 general elections.

- Awami League in the 1970 general elections.

- PML(N) in the 1988 general elections under the IJI.

- MQM in the 1988 general elections as independents.

- JUP in the 1990 general elections.

- Islamic Jamhoori Mahaz in the 1993 general elections.

- BNP in the 1997 general elections.


There are more but these should be enough.

Good to see another party join the ranks

 

[AWAITED1]

Would you use this argument against all political parties? I'd you apply this formula in pakis and rest of world then most of political parties if not all are terrorists and their supporters are terrorists..
Your argument is very weak

Thank you for your enlightened post, atleast you accepted that TLP is a political organization which participates in the electoral process and religion is just a tool they use to mobilize their political activity.

Now lets suppose, your family needs immediate medical attention but you cant get to the hospital nor the ambulance can get to you. After years of saving pennies you are able to buy a small car so that your kids/family can ride safely or you can get to your work but it is burnt down. You are not allowed to go or move freely as per your wishes/choice/need and you are told you cant do it because someone says so. In-order to earn a living for your family you put up a small kiosk and it is robbed/burnt down and that day onwards you cant put food on table and God knows for how many days your kids will be sleeping hungry..... and countless other examples............................ so what would you label them?

 

[Black.Mamba]

Would you use this argument against all political parties? I'd you apply this formula in pakis and rest of world then most of political parties if not all are terrorists and their supporters are terrorists..
Your argument is very weak

Yes I would use the same argument against anyone and everyone who will harm other peoples properties and their well-being. No matter how great their cause is, it cannot justify it. And Thankfully you agreed that TLP is a political party and nothing to do with religion.

So if my argument is weak what is your strong argument? A mob can decide the fate of another person?

Is bndy k character ka pta chlta h itni gali di h or maa behan ki gali ni di isne usi bnday ko direct nanga kiya h just , bht se logon ki asliyat btai h inhon ne

Forum rules do not allow me to post "maa behan wali clips" however you can easily search them easily if you want to.

 

[El Sidd]

The barelvi Sect was always based on Sufi mysticism so elements of Sufi mysticism

Religious discussions are not allowed.

They should stop giving out unwarranted ratings.

fyi Bareilly is a city in India and not a sect

 

[Itachi]

"you seem like one of the terrorist buddhists bent on killing Muslims. You're a abomination for the whole world."

Next time raise it in the GHQ. Won't entertain complaints here again.

That guys had more negatives ratings than your positive ratings....he's a well known Islamophobe. Bet you didn't know that...

He's been banned several times too. I don't regret what I wrote towards someone that deserves it.

I was thinking of raising the issue to GHQ but thought that'll be too much. So I tagged you and the Kambo.

I'll raise the issue to GHQ if it the issue is raised by you next time over something childish as schooling folks here with basic facts.

(2.1 million / 212.2 million (2018)) * 100 = 0.9868%.

You need to read this article. I forgot to post this too.

Tehreek Labbaik Pakistan received 21,91,679 votes in elections 2018

Tehreek Labbaik Pakistan received over 2.1 million votes Hafiz Khadim Hussain Rizvi – led religious-cum-political party Tehreek Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) received 21,91,679 votes across the Country in general elections held on July 25, 2018, becoming the sixth largest party in terms of highest...

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(191679/212200000) x 100 = 1.03%

And since not everyone in Pakistan voted like another post mentioned, think of this number as anywhere between 3-8%. With million more like minded folks who gave the vote to PTI...

"Overseas Pakistani"....weird flex, bud.

Regardless, I didn't see any facts. Only childish statements on how to incorrectly calculate percentages and count people.

Not a flex but another way to make you understand what is being said. My math isn't wrong...check above.

Post deletion is used as a favor to the poster. If you want warnings then I'd be more than happy to oblige.

I know, I have talked to mods before. Warn me next time. I'll raise the issue to GHQ directly then.

Consider us both intimidated.

I'm not trying to intimidate you buddy. You're jumping in threads and picking sides. I'm just reminding you of your duties as a mod that's all.

 

[shah_123]

Allama Khadim Hussain got in the bad books of the ruling establishment because he presented Islam as a Deen and not mere madhab ---- I used to hear this from Dr. Israr Ahmad, after a long time, I heard this again from Allama Khadim. ----- the leftovers (Khawaas) from british raj (our ruling elite), are happy with Awaam practising Islam just a madhab, they don't want to see them taking Islam as a Deen.

Allama Khadim Hussain got in the bad books of the ruling establishment because he presented Islam as a Deen and not mere madhab ---- I used to hear this from Dr. Israr Ahmad, after a long time, I heard this again from Allama Khadim. ----- the leftovers (Khawaas) from british raj (our ruling elite), are happy with Awaam practising Islam just a madhab, they don't want to see them taking Islam as a Deen.

 

[newb3e]

It does not matter. What matters is that consensus of populace is taken into account through the mandate of the vote not mandate of might is right.

majority is not right wing or extremist thats the only great thing about Pakistan we are no sheeps and have never voted in huge numbers for a mullah!

 

[El Sidd]

majority is not right wing or extremist thats the only great thing about Pakistan we are no sheeps and have never voted in huge numbers for a mullah!

everyones a mullah as per constitution of the country hence no need for any ceremonial balloting.