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This man stole my words....(Hasan Nisar)

^^^^ What was the post meant to say? If your saying that hes not a saint or is fallible then yes you are absolutely correct because everyone is.


Im just amazed that iv only listened to him now. Maybe this has to do with the fact that I feel disgusted and nauseous every time I switch on any one of our news channels. Long have I argued and debated these facts with my Dad, my friends and everyone of you here on this forum as well. Always without response, acceptance or a valid answer. Always blatant and stubborn refusal without premise. Its like watching and listening my own self talk.
 
^^^^ What was the post meant to say? If your saying that hes not a saint or is fallible then yes you are absolutely correct because everyone is.


Im just amazed that iv only listened to him now. Maybe this has to do with the fact that I feel disgusted and nauseous every time I switch on any one of our news channels. Long have I argued and debated these facts with my Dad, my friends and everyone of you here on this forum as well. Always without response, acceptance or a valid answer. Always blatant and stubborn refusal without premise. Its like watching and listening my own self talk.
I meant no harm and no negativity, i'm a pro Musharraf member and i posted this link because this was three years ago when hasan nisar predicted this and today we see this happening, we have many supporters and even worst opponents of Musharraf in public also admit that Musharraf was 10000s time better then ppp and pmln. this shows that hasan nisar is a foresighted scholar!
 
@Krash baaten sab bari achi ker lete hain...amal nahi hai, Hasan Nisar ko bhi Sharam ani chahiye aik din MQM se award leta hai or next day jang mien Column mein MQM ki tareefo ke pull band deta hai....

so dont get really impress by the person......yeh khud 2 bottle ke badlay bik janay wali nasal hai...
 
I meant no harm and no negativity, i'm a pro Musharraf member and i posted this link because this was three years ago when hasan nisar predicted this and today we see this happening, we have many supporters and even worst opponents of Musharraf in public also admit that Musharraf was 10000s time better then ppp and pmln. this shows that hasan nisar is a foresighted scholar!

By no means sir. In fact I want people to watch these videos and disagree if they must and then maybe, just maybe we can get a discussion started here. Disagreement is a blessing rather than a curse. A society never reaches any where if there is no debate in it. Everyone of us needs to talk and listen to everyone else. Our people are the most stubborn in the world. We have to change this. We have to start making our people think. The things that he is talking about are simple and very comprehensible. You need not be a scholar to see that what hes talking about is hitting too many nails right on their heads to be ignored and not payed heed to.

My purpose for this thread was not to present what Mr.Hassan Nisar has to say but instead what he is saying. There are other talks of his with which I do not completely agree and the following is an example of that.


Ill leave the Musharaf matter alone as it will completely send us in a different direction.
 
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The following video is an example of how stubborn and unwilling our people are when it comes to listening and accepting our own follies:


@krash baaten sab bari achi ker lete hain...amal nahi hai, Hasan Nisar ko bhi Sharam ani chahiye aik din MQM se award leta hai or next day jang mien Column mein MQM ki tareefo ke pull band deta hai....

so dont get really impress by the person......yeh khud 2 bottle ke badlay bik janay wali nasal hai...

Sir that is not the point at all. Id even go as far as saying that the man is an idiot, a munafiq, a traitor and whatever the people might want me to call him if only that they would guarantee me that they would objectively listen to what he has to say. Im not saying that Mr.Nasir is or is not a traitor, because frankly speaking I do not care. What I do care about is that what he has said in too many talks of his is brilliant and, though hurtful to many of us, absolutely true. Had there been a baboon saying all this I would have still praised him and accepted his arguments. Because the merit of an argument is not in its presenter but in the argument (and its premise) itself. The only reason why im posting his videos is that I myself have been thinking, debating and shouting on these issues for a very long time but no one has ever listened to me. Maybe someone would listen to him. I am not impressed with him (since i just came around his videos and dont know anything about him) only glad that someone else can also see the things which I can, things which are so very obvious! As I said before the purpose of this thread is not the man but the message. One can not, should not and must not reject or accept any argument presented by anyone based on anything else but the argument (and its premise) itself.

ps: For heaven's sake oh people of mine wake the bloody hell up! How long will we keep on eating away at our own self! Please leave the ways of idiocy and stubbornness, we cannot afford them any more.
 
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I'm punjabi and i have never been to karachi in my life Allah ki Kasam but i like MQM even if i won't vote for them in front of APML but i like them because first of all ALTAF husain has declared that he will not take any position even if MQM win in entire Pakistan that is their moto. he will not even take a consular seat, forget PM ship, so basically who rule Pakistan then? yes the public from lower class or max middle class, i personally don't like Altaf husain because i feel he act funny lol but that doesn't give me a right to hate him because he hasn't done anything but to bring lower middle class families to Parliament of Pakistan, look at mustafa kamal! he has motor cycle, he used to come to office on motorbike! he still does and he still doesn't own a car nor does his family, he doesn't own a house nor does his family and i mean not brother no sister no mother no father. no one. same goes for wasim same goes for haider abbas rizvi, if you Google you will see their chapple broken, for this all i will give credit to MQM because this is not usual in Pakistan. i know they have many haters including my father and uncles but i won't stop speaking the truth! and what ever hasan nisar said is true. as far as him speaking high of MQM, he is speaking the truth but if some people can't pass then MQM and ALTAF name and can't hear his massage then that is not hasan nisar fault ;)
 

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