The Hindutva View of History: Rewriting Textbooks in India and the United States

[pakpride00090]

https://dash.harvard.edu/handle/1/9887609

 

[Dalit]

The irony is that Obama gave that devil Modi the platform to launch his RSS philosophy.

 

[W.11]

not a fan of hidutva but seeing Michael Witzel's name in the paper is an irony in itself, seeing how he justifies imperialist version of indian history with aryan crap and the rest, his support for steve farmer's indus script as illiterate, his paramunda theory on IVC etc. They are virtually two sides of the same coin.

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[Agnihotra]

@W.11 We cant deny that Aryans came from European Steppe region to India based on Genetics and simply ethnicities that are also considered part of the same community.

I used to think that Aryans were Nordic theory was bullshit but after doing my own research and finding out that,

1) R1a_z93 that is most found Y dna among h brahmins have origin in Russia-Ukrain as they found oldest sample of it without any south Asian traits.

2) looking at people that are relatively unmixed and belong to Iranic branch of the same Indo-Iranian family such as Pathans, Tajiks etc still live in Central Asia and groups such as Iranic nomads, Pamiris etc having high % of fair eyed as well as haired people.

3) Tocharian blond and red haired mummies.

Most likely He was right.

 

[Ray02589]

This happens throughout history when a previously pluralistic society falls to ideological and authoritarian rulers. The old history is purged and a new history is created often under the guise of "restoration".

 

[W.11]

@W.11 We cant deny that Aryans came from European Steppe region to India based on Genetics and simply ethnicities that are also considered part of the same community.

I used to think that Aryans were Nordic theory was bullshit but after doing my own research and finding out that,

1) R1a_z93 that is most found Y dna among h brahmins have origin in Russia-Ukrain as they found oldest sample of it without any south Asian traits.

2) looking at people that are relatively unmixed and belong to Iranic branch of the same Indo-Iranian family such as Pathans, Tajiks etc still live in Central Asia and groups such as Iranic nomads, Pamiris etc having high % of fair eyed as well as haired people.

3) Tocharian blond and red haired mummies.

Most likely He was right.

genetics cannot tell language spoken by the people, that would be unscientific to assume that a dna strand proves the linguistic affiliation of a group of people, people with middle eastern dna like sumerian should have spoken semitic language, similarly, the middle eastern dna sharing hittite should have spoken semitic language as well but they are indo european speakers, the minoans and the etruscan of italy should have spoken indo european, the icelandic people should not have spoken a non indoeuropean lingo.

secondly mr michael witzel himself doesnt support the dna aryan theory, try to read his views on his version of aryan theory.

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This happens throughout history when a previously pluralistic society falls to ideological and authoritarian rulers. The old history is purged and a new history is created often under the guise of "restoration".

isnt the ''old indian history'' based on imperialist/authoritarian rule as well which was a deeply racist regime?

hindutva seem to be using impeialist arguement where ever it favours them, for instance, all muslim rulers before the british were bad, this was perpetuated by the british in order to justify their own autority and moral right. the muslims imposed foreign culture on india, muslims hated hindus, destroyed countless temples, thing which led hindutvas to hear schizophrenic stuff about babri mosque being built after destruction of teple.

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[Agnihotra]

genetics cannot tell language spoken by the people, that would be unscientific to assume that a dna strand proves the linguistic affiliation of a group of people, people with middle eastern dna like sumerian should have spoken semitic language, similarly, the middle eastern dna sharing hittite should have spoken semitic language as well but they are indo european speakers, the minoans and the etruscan of italy should have spoken indo european, the icelandic people should not have spoken a non indoeuropean lingo.

secondly mr michael witzel himself doesnt support the dna aryan theory, try to read his views on his version of aryan theory.

regards



isnt the ''old indian history'' based on imperialist/authoritarian rule as well which was a deeply racist regime?

regards

Most of the people who live in meditation are not of Indo-European origin but are of Native Neolithic origins that got assimilated by IE people just like Asian Groups that speak IE languages.

But i agree on witzel, he tries hard to connect ancient Ancient Indian text to European people with faulty translation. I have studied same books and most of the hymns that he tags for his theories are wrong transplantation from original Sanskrit to English and German.

Cant blame him, he is a german after all.

 

[W.11]

Most of the people who live in meditation are not of Indo-European origin but are of Native Neolithic origins that got assimilated by IE people just like Asian Groups that speak IE languages.

what about kutcha people of eastern china, their sculptures also show their likeness to uygher people of today and not the blond, blue eyed people from norway.

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[Agnihotra]

what about kutcha people of eastern china, their sculptures also show their likeness to uygher people of today and not the blond, blue eyed people from norway.

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I don't know much about Tocharians so i i ct say anything about them. Only thing i know is that they used to used Brahmi script and Heavy Sanskrit and Prakrit languages due to religious impact that Indians had there.

Based on videos and genetic footprint of R1b as well as Blond mummies that Chinese themselves concluded that came from Outside i believe that they were people with Europoid Features.