The Emperor has no cloths on.

[VCheng]

We are hostages of our dreaded past. Aren't we?

PA strategic plan has gone through a sea change.

What you say was valid (perhaps partially) in 1990s.

Too bad many analysts especially in India are still stuck in decades old mindset.

peace

So far, there is no actual evidence to support the claims that the Pak Army has actually changed its mindset. Look at what is has just done to destroy Geo and the elected government's authority, all illegally and as arrogantly as ever. Yup, it is the same ol' Army, true to its actual, not claimed, form.

 

[FaujHistorian]

So far, there is no actual evidence to support the claims that the Pak Army has actually changed its mindset. Look at what is has just done to destroy Geo and the elected government's authority, all illegally and as arrogantly as ever. Yup, it is the same ol' Army, true to its actual, not claimed, form.

I am not too sympathetic with GEO's plight.

No matter what, you don't become judge, jury, and prosector against a sitting general.

There must be some punishment for this kind of behavior.

Sadly, geo still hasn't learned its lesson.

Just like I loath this rumor mongering by IK and TuQ,

the same thing I say about the likes of geo.

GEO should have apologized and promised not to do this ever again. If Hamid Mir has an issue, he should go to the court etc. but dragging the whole institution like GEO is wrong. utterly wrong.

 

[VCheng]

I am not too sympathetic with GEO's plight.

No matter what, you don't become judge, jury, and prosector against a sitting general.

There must be some punishment for this kind of behavior.

Sadly, geo still hasn't learned its lesson.

The point was to show everyone that the media must bow down to whatever the Generals want, because a free media is a threat to their illegal hold on power. They made that point very successfully, to the overall detriment of Pakistan, as always.

GEO should have apologized and promised not to do this ever again. If Hamid Mir has an issue, he should go to the court etc. but dragging the whole institution like GEO is wrong. utterly wrong.

Geo did apologize, and was banned for two weeks. But their punishment persists, illegally. Why?

 

[FaujHistorian]

The point was to show everyone that the media must bow down to whatever the Generals want, because a free media is a threat to their illegal hold on power. They made that point very successfully, to the overall detriment of Pakistan, as always.
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Bhai Jaan,

obviously you have a strong feeling on this topic. so I cannot convince you. Sorry

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Geo did apologize, and was banned for two weeks. But their punishment persists, illegally. Why?

I have listened to Hamid Mir and Khawaja Asif exchange on this topic

I respect Hamid Mir, and I pray he lives a long life. But he and he is family is using personal animosity against a general for dragging down the whole organization aka geo.

Geo i beliefve has sent some big name amount (as part of some future lawsuit) against the government/army and still raising dead issues.

 

[VCheng]

Bhai Jaan,

obviously you have a strong feeling on this topic. so I cannot convince you. Sorry




I have listened to Hamid Mir and Khawaja Asif exchange on this topic

I respect Hamid Mir, and I pray he lives a long life. But he and he is family is using personal animosity against a general for dragging down the whole organization aka geo.

Geo i beliefve has sent some big name amount (as part of some future lawsuit) against the government/army and still raising dead issues.

You obviously seem to advocate the Army as being above all criticism, which is absolutely the wrong thing. Does or does not Geo have the right to report on the Army?

 

[FaujHistorian]

You obviously seem to advocate the Army as being above all criticism, which is absolutely the wrong thing. Does or does not Geo have the right to report on the Army?

Look bhai,

I have seen your posts. you write in a balanced way.

So please give me the same honor and respect that I give you.

 

[VCheng]

Look bhai,

I have seen your posts. you write in a balanced way.

So please give me the same honor and respect that I give you.

Have I not asked the question respectfully enough, honorable Sir?

 

[FaujHistorian]

Have I not asked the question respectfully enough, honorable Sir?

What GEO did was not reporting.

I hope you know enough about that incident

 

[VCheng]

What GEO did was not reporting.

I hope you know enough about that incident

HM was shot and he made certain accusations. Geo only reported on the accusations made, that is all, as was its right as a major media outlet, whose journalist was nearly killed. While you may not agree with its editorial decisions to cover the story in the manner that it did, the fact remains that it was perfectly within its rights to do so.

Even after it has apologized and completed the punishment of its two week ban, why is it still being victimized?

 

[FaujHistorian]

HM was shot and he made certain accusations. Geo only reported on the accusations made, that is all, as was its right as a major media outlet, whose journalist was nearly killed. While you may not agree with its editorial decisions to cover the story in the manner that it did, the fact remains that it was perfectly within its rights to do so.

Even after it has apologized and completed the punishment of its two week ban, why is it still being victimized?

So a boy gets killed in Ferguson MO, and MSNBC puts up home land security chief's picture on TV for 7 hours with headline that he is the guy who shot and killed the boy.

What kind of journalism is this?

the worst kind, dare I say.

 

[VCheng]

So a boy gets killed in Ferguson MO, and MSNBC puts up home land security chief's picture on TV for 7 hours with headline that he is the guy who shot and killed the boy.

What kind of journalism is this?

the worst kind, dare I say.

Wrong analogy Sir. The victim who was shot, survived the attack and made the accusations. Geo merely reported them. In Ferguson, what allegations the deceased's family made were accurately reported as well.

 

[IND151]

What GEO did was not reporting.

I hope you know enough about that incident

What happened?

 

[Rafael]

Wrong analogy Sir. The victim who was shot, survived the attack and made the accusations. Geo merely reported them. In Ferguson, what allegations the deceased's family made were accurately reported as well.

The victim and his professional colleagues named some 'individuals' within ISI and NOT the ISI chief. What sense does it make to poster ISI chief's picture for 7 hours and demanding his resignation?

And according to my limited knowledge, no FIR has been lodged by the accuser or the GEO group as of TODAY!

Thank you!

 

[Amaa'n]

Wrong analogy Sir. The victim who was shot, survived the attack and made the accusations. Geo merely reported them. In Ferguson, what allegations the deceased's family made were accurately reported as well.

No sir, its you who is wrong, this is completely an assumption on your part, because the Regulatory Authorityhad tosay otherwise
Geo shutdown by PEMRA for 15 days | PAKISTAN - geo.tv

 

[VCheng]

The victim and his professional colleagues named some 'individuals' within ISI and NOT the ISI chief. What sense does it make to poster ISI chief's picture for 7 hours and demanding his resignation?
And according to my limited knowledge, no FIR has been lodged by the accuser or the GEO group as of TODAY!
Thank you!

If a journalist accused individuals within the ISI for the attack, putting up the photo of the individual heading ISI makes perfect sense, actually. The DG ISI should have annouced an investigation into the allegations and responded properly, by demanding equal coverage of the results. That would have been the better way.

"Participate, do not prevent", that is the way to deal with the media.

No sir, its you who is wrong, this is completely an assumption on your part, because the Regulatory Authorityhad tosay otherwise
Geo shutdown by PEMRA for 15 days | PAKISTAN - geo.tv

The same Regulatory Authority that now says Geo should be allowed to resume? Geo was forced to apologize and underwent the two week ban by coercion, but now that even that is over, why is it still blocked?